Rugga World – the ideal

Some people take every comment as indicative of site policy or article as a ’site’ article.

In reality, that’s far from the status quo. There is no way that all six of us agree on anything, never mind most things.

So, it becomes an issue of liberal tolerance and the fervent desire to not have to get involved at all in issues of moderation.

For almost a year there was no need to intervene, people understood the bigger picture. Regardless of personal opinions or ego, they subjugated it to the greater ideal of having somewhere to gather where you don’t get personally attacked for your opinions.

Understandably, new readers most often breached the ideal but it’s surprising how those very same people became some of the best posters on the site.

The idea of self-moderation is not always an easy concept to grasp but once people see the difference it makes in interaction, it’s great.

The strange thing is, everyone can still provide their opinion in passionate ways, they can still disagree with other posters vigorously and voiceferously, they just learn to leave the malignancy and provocation out of it.

Obviously some people take pride in being hard cases, I have no idea why, and it takes longer to deal with them but we have over 500 unique registered members, over 4200 unique visitors per month.

We trust that people understand they’re making a fool of themselves in front of a lot of people.

Anyway, thankfully, it’s 99% a self-moderating site, users themselves don’t want to bring their own site down.

It is inevitable that some posters will have a history with other posters outside Rugga World, that’s your business but leave it at the door when you enter here and if you can’t, please don’t join. Derogatory comments towards fellow posters are unacceptable, racist taunting or comments will not be tolerated. On that note, it’s not encouraged, or welcomed, to deliberately post comments that are bound, or intended, to elicite provocative reaction from others.

As for the readers that take personal issue with a particular story or series of posts, it stresses me every time we lose any of them but I have to accept that we cannot satisfy all the people all the time. I wish they’d consider that as well.

On top of that, Rugga World is not a single entity, there are six of us and we can post what we like – there is no site ‘policy’. It’s down to common sense. We don’t agree with each other, we don’t support the same teams, we disagree on national coaches etc.

Then throw in that, so far, we’ve never turned down a reader’s contribution, you are all free to express your opinions as long as you remain true to a generally accepted modicum of decency.

So, we know VERY WELL we are far from perfect but we’re trying to give you a pleasant place to gather and chat about rugby.

Personally, I have a wish that the people who disagree with things don’t throw their toys but rather use their perfectly reasonable opportunity to show another way, express another opinion, influence people otherwise.

However, after a year, I know that some people just miss the point and there is not a lot you can do to retain them.

Believe me, I wish it was otherwise but humanity is diverse and it’s diverse for a reason, it helps to ensure survival.

All we can do is remain being different people offering different viewpoints in dfferent ways and trust that enough of you will understand that.

And we sincerely thank all who do understand that.

As importantly, we’d like to invite those who take issue with anything on the site to discuss it. Let us know your thoughts, give us your ambitions for the site, help us out. We’re not omniprescent, most times we’re not even here when the dwang hits the fan.

Most of all, an enormous thank you to all those who have kept visiting over the months, your contribution is what has kept this site going. You are the real STARS.

552 Comments on Rugga World – the ideal

  1. Interesting read Ras

    I guess the Rasputin’s immuteable LAw of Threads – have maybe a wider effect as well.

    I honestly believe that self moderation is the recipe to success- still when some tendencies – in my opinion- becomes a threat to a site culture that I am comfortable with- it puts me on the spot

    Msut I leave or discuss?

    One must not fear diversity- amd the benefits that opinions other than your own brings

    I have posted in my personal capacity what benefits I have derived from rugby blog sites- in particular Ruggaworld.

    So I guess my issue is a bit more complicated than someone who just want a qick slagg off of the supporters of the team that had annihilated his team- wheter it was in his dreams or did happen for a couple of seasons.

    I am not sure what I want to – most likely I will keep on posting in the same manner as I have done.

    I do want to use this opportunity again to thank all the BM’s, both past & present, for their individual and collective effort- to make this- to my opinion the best Rugga blogsite in the CyberhOOd!

    I would also like to offer you the opportunity – if the majority of Bm’s are of the opinion that the opinions that I express here- both direct and or indirectly- are negative to the prevailing culture of the site( although I understand your arti on site policy Ras :smile: ) just mail me.

    I will disappear without any fuss- neither will I post negative things under another- or plethora of Nicks.

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  2. OO, you have summed it up spot on. Ras, as always, thanks for putting this so eloquently.

    I think it’s safe to say that we are all incredibly proud of the culture of RuggaWorld, something that all of us have built through hard work and a fair deal of patience and tolerance. It is what makes this site unique and we cannot let it be eroded- it is too important.

    I’m sure that Ras isn’t intending to take a Bush-like tone here, but at the end of the day, you are either with us or against us

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  3. OO, thank you for that.

    I guess it all boils down to the statement that PissAnt always use: “Don not say something to a guy blogging, that you will not be willing to say to his face”.

    CyberhOOd has made the world a very small place and given one the opportunity to make friends you never would have met in life. What we are doing here is sitting around the braai everyday and discussing the sport that we love and also alot of other issues in life.

    For sure I am not going to insult my friend personally sitting next to the braai with me.

    The same goes for jokingly slagging the team he supports. This is about having fun. If we are not going to enjoy it, then we won’t keep on doing it. Please I asked everyone to make the site enjoyable for everyone. If you don;t, you are being selfish.

    But also remember to keep an open mind about things. Be objective and respect the opinions of others. And when people differ from you, debate it. Who knows you might accomplish the impossible and change theirs.

    Thank you guys for helping us to make this site a place where mature people can discuss life without us having to be the policemen.

    Thanks guys

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  4. Aah no Ras. thats means next time Donder slates JW and Rob wants the sharks all to don the green and gold, and someone wants J Smith dropped or even worse Graeme Smith, and OO says the Cheetahs are shyte I got to be mederate . not fair mate. they need educating dont they?

    lol Ras, good thing…sets us apart from the rubbish on that other site.

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  5. What happened????

    Having spent time on both sites I have to say this one is streets ahead in terms of calibre of blogger, intelligence, and respect for others!

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  6. This site can never be truly balanced until one of the Big 6 coverts to a true blue Bulls supporter.

    But we will persevere!

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  7. The point Ras is trying to make though is that Bulls supporters are ok

    In fact all supporters have vrot appels

    We just don’t want the vrot appels here.

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  8. Point taken. But I feel my questioning of StM’s sexuality was later vindicated by his own remarks.

    My only complaint about the site is a shocking lack of tasteful nudity.

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  9. Keep the site clean

    I know on the othere site i am one of those Blue bull supporters hey Dawn.
    There you blow of some steam here it is all rugby so what i will do is chat rugby here and on the other site i will blow of some steam…

    But good post and this is a good site…love the place.

    good work people keep it up.

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  10. Yes well put Ras.

    1. Play the ball and not the man. Dont feel threatened or take it personally if someone posts something you disagree with. Its debate, open your mind and you’ll be amazed what you can achieve.

    2. Some of the best posts are occassionally the put downs. But lets keep them witty rather than childish, lavatorial and homophobic. And above all keep the Royal family out of it.

    3. I, like Donner, prescribe to the PissAnt school of ‘only post what you be prepared to say to someone’s face’. Now whilst it might be in my personal best interests to do it with the lot of you safely secured behind bars lets bear it in mind.

    And Bravo to that!

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  11. with the lot of you safely secured behind bars lets bear it in mind.

    And Bravo to that!

    Comment by StMichel — January 12, 2007 @ 10:21 am

    Are you looking in or out from the bars? :grin:

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  12. This is definitly the best rugby site in Cyberspace.
    The majority of posters are knowledable and sometimes quite witty.

    I read the site everyday and while I sometimes don’t get the opportunity to post because of workload I always appreciate the posts. From PA’s essays to Ras’s Youtube vid’s, Cab’s drunken midnight ramblings etc.

    To be on Ruggaworld is like being around a braai with a bunch of okes who all know and love rugby.

    Thanks Guys – Keep it up.

    Cheers

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  13. My only complaint about the site is a shocking lack of tasteful nudity.

    Comment by Big Fish — January 12, 2007 @ 10:13 am

    Why am i not surprised? :lol:

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  14. Ollie, dont you agree that women are better if you dont pay for them? Or maybe you prefer to always pay homage to Mammon, even then? :lol:
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  15. BF,
    Not sure where mammon fits into this, but the girls are not professional (not like that anyway). think of it more as a donation to a chance in a life time.
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  16. Just kidding Ollie, I know. Hope I didn’t cause offence, on this of all threads!

    Anyway, tastefull is fully optional of course.

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  17. I’m going to throw a spanner in the works.

    What happens on Voldy is a reflection of issues that have yet to be resolved in South Africa.

    Should a cap be put on that? Shouldn’t we know about latent misconceptions and inherent racism?

    Rasputin if you there what do you think.

    And PS Steyn … if you were called a toothless snoek selling whore wouldn’t that go to your head too?

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  18. That’s why I haven’t posted there since November.

    The Voldymaster tries his best and kudos to him for the effort he puts in.

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  19. Not even Magnus Malan could control that place…

    Dawn – Yes, we should cap it. This is a rugby blog, same as Keo. This is not a discussion forum for political activity of any sort. We understand that the conversation might occasionally stray in that direction, but urge the members to exercise the appropriate common sense and restraint when it starts to get out of hand.

    Ras will be along shortly to word it better.

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  20. “toothless snoek selling whore”

    Ok, thats harsh, jokes or no jokes. I guess there are some depths even those as degenrate as I will never plumb.

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  21. Hmmm (not the rugrat), I don’t think I have ever said anything to anybody here that I wouldn’t say to their face.

    Dawn, that is harsh and was totally uncalled for under any circumstance.

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  22. Rob

    My only offence was taking them to task re Broederbond. I’m not popular and I’ll never be Miss Congeniality. I draw the line.

    One comment against what they’re doing leads to a tirade of abuse the likes of which I’ve never been subjected to in my life.

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  23. Dawn I feel I must hold you to task.

    We need to make this an ever better blog. Some people post stuff that’s witty, others insighful, some funny, some chose to state the bleeding obvious, some post pretty weak attempts at humour, some just plain wrong. Invariably your posts are none of these. The word ‘banal’ is not right. ‘Inane’ is perhaps most apposite. But its the consistency of your inaness that raises my ire.

    May I request that raise your game or simply dont post and just read?

    I fear you are the most dreadful company. Please dont take this the wrong way just have a think about it my dear.

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  24. Mickey

    I have as much right to post here as anyone else.

    My posts are neither banal nor inane and if you find them to be so, you don’t have to read them.

    I will carry on as I please. You do not speak for everyone on this site.

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  25. BF – you remain a scholar and a gentleman… and a true Sharks supporter!

    Comment by robdylan© — January 12, 2007 @ 11:18 am

    Bias if ever there was!!! :mrgreen:

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  26. Understandably, new readers most often breached the ideal but it’s surprising how those very same people became some of the best posters on the site.

    I never breached the ideal as a new reader :wink:

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  27. Dawn – I share your views on that particular organisation, but let’s refrain from discussing it here unless it is absolutely central to the rugby debate at hand. Seem fair?
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  28. Dawn just think for a moment and then post. May I sugest the following:

    1. Think what you want to say
    2. Confirm that it will be of interest to anyone but yourself
    3. And only then post.

    Consider it a simple 3 step process.

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  29. Dawn

    That kind of name calling will lead to a warning and then a banning here.
    FULL STOP
    This is for sport discussion.
    And okes

    This doesn’t mean the often thrown curveball about Bulls supporters and their snors and WP supporters and their sexual tastes must go out the window.
    Just don’t go overboard.
    That’s all we ask.
    By all means make it spirited.
    But play the ball not the player please

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  30. This is a very important principle. And obviously not understood.

    Its dull and senseless postings from the likes of Dawn that essentially ruined Keo. And it’ll be the death of this place if it is allowed to continue. Throw in a the homphobic and sexual postngs from the like of BF and suddenly you’ll have the Keo site in all but name.

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  31. In other words, StM… kindly show us the ball you are currently attempting to play. You seem to be playing the (wo)man in no uncertain terms.

    Wes – I don’t have a beer boep china. Beer poep is something altogether different.

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  32. Follow PA’s rules on posting

    Think what you want to say and post as if you have the person IRL with you.

    For those who don’t know I’m from Rhodesia
    Raised in the Esat Rand
    Teenage years in South
    Still in East Rand

    1,95 m
    110 kg

    Now go ahead and post…

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  33. St Michel

    You’re trawling for trouble

    The issue on the other site were posters who degenerated to the lowest common denominator and unfortunately went beyond what one could call decent.

    Inanity had nothing to do with it.

    I would deign to remind you that notwithstanding your personal views on Dawn that you are a traditional English gentleman and she is a lady. Please bear that in mind when you post about and to her.

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  34. robdylan, I am making an important stand for the integrity of this blog. Dawn needs to understand. Although, how can I put this politely, she does not see the issue.
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  35. Ollie

    Most catches?

    That’s just down to two things

    1. The length of time the untalented little git’s spent being undeserved keeper for SA

    2. The fact that he’s always had a semi decent battery of quicks inducing nicks.

    Even I could have done that

    :lol:

    Wes knows how I feel about Boucher

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  36. ‘Throw in a the homphobic and sexual postngs from the like of BF and suddenly you’ll have the Keo site in all but name.’

    Comment by StMichel — January 12, 2007 @ 11:38 am

    StM

    If you dont like it you are welcome to leave and never post here again. You will definitely not be missed.

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  37. DavidS

    Last night i bought the Jan/Feb issue of SA Cricket and guess who is on the cover? LMAO

    None other than Mark Boucher. I am sorry but i dont agree with you. I never used to like him but he has upped his game considerably and is already a LEGEND in SA Cricket!!!

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  38. I always felt that if one wanted to disagree with an opinion one could say – i disagree and then follow it with some sound reasoning as to why, but it appears everybody throws in some slander to garner a response.

    It denotes a lack of intelligence

    If you cannot formulate an argument as to why you disagree with someone else’s opinion without slander – you should keep your cake hole shut.

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  39. IMM,

    I agree, although there are many times when that slander takes ona veiled form or hidden in prose. In my eyes it remains slander.

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  40. Comment by DavidS — January 12, 2007 @ 11:39 am

    I have a few friends mutch bigger than that and have knocked out my 196 – 123kg firend out when he started pushing me around durin g rugby practise, and I am only 178 – 93kg.

    So you bet ja I will….

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  41. DavidS

    Your remark “This doesn’t mean the often thrown curveball about Bulls supporters and their snors and WP supporters and their sexual tastes must go out the window” refers. I cannot disagree more with you.

    I find it very irritating and indeed childish, all this constant referance to WP and supporters sexuality. In my humble opinion those guys must have some sort of problem, because they have homosexuality on their minds all the time. I am certainly offended by that continuous line of communication, and every time I leave when that continues.

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  42. Boerboel

    Sorry if it came across that way.

    Of course, I meant to use that simile to refer to light hearted banter and good natured ribbing of opposition supporters without turning it into vicious personal attacks.

    But yes I do find the repititive use of that particular one irritating, as do I find the consistent referral to Bulls supporters as snor wearing brandy swilling boep pensed uncultured racists as completely unnecessary.

     

    O god

     

    SA 8/2….

     

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  43. DavidS

    Sure, you’re correct. That is exactly what irritates me. There is no need for either. Sooner or later they will start to blame each other, like children, on who started the argument and both will claim that they have only responded.

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  44. the only way of really not offending is ribbing those who can take a joke…vinnie is a prime target.

    StM,
    leave Dawn alone, your manners gone out the window? you are now on a respectable saffa blog, not down your local.

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  45. Handy tip:

    Beer followed by Jameson’s followed by wine is a sure way to get a hangover.

    Be careful out there kids…

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  46. Also:

    Want a new BMW??? Stay away for a certain branch near the Waterfront. Their customer service took a long walk of a short pier…

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  47. These handy tips brought to you by Grrrr…

    Another one but these come from our Health Department:

    Condoms are for sissies, have AIDS??? Eat some African potato’s with a hint of garlic. Thanks Manto!!!

    Ok, I’m done…

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  48. #

    DavidS

    Last night i bought the Jan/Feb issue of SA Cricket and guess who is on the cover? LMAO

    None other than Mark Boucher. I am sorry but i dont agree with you. I never used to like him but he has upped his game considerably and is already a LEGEND in SA Cricket!!!

    Comment by wpw — January 12, 2007 @ 11:48 am

    There is only one legend: Robbie Fleck!!!

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  49. “Its dull and senseless postings from the likes of Dawn that essentially ruined Keo.?

    I’d like some examples.

    Comment by Dawn — January 12, 2007 @ 11:44 am |Edit This

    No need, Dawn, you know StM is rambling.

    The lad has a penchant to do that of a morning occasionally, I believe it only really happens when Jeeves is tardy in bringing him his Caffè Mocha.

    StM, in turn, is often misunderstood, the old boy can be very entertaining.

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  50. Comment by IgisMagnusMalan — January 12, 2007 @ 11:51 am |Edit This

    Spot on!

    Anyway, thanks for all the positive reaction people! Great to see.

    Basically we’re just asking people to think before posting and to consider that we put a lot of effort into keeping the site going.

    Good natured teasing and joking is welcomed.

    And, yes Grrrr, Fleckie is a Legend! :wink:

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  51. Ras, just a quick question; am I allowed to point out that StM eschewed the not uncommon word “inanity” in favour of his own word “inaness” (think of it as 2 words – Freudian slip anyone?)? In the light of yesterday’s revelations, surely my observations are just the wonderings of an enquiring mind and no more?
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  52. And, yes Grrrr, Fleckie is a Legend! :wink:
    Comment by Rasputin — January 12, 2007 @ 1:10 pm

    hehehe Ras

    but we should speak out against bad journalism which lead to unnessary “hero worship”

    :smile:

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  53. Ras

    Just to add

    Basically we’re a community of rugby lovers

    This means as a community online we ALL take responsibility for what we do as individuals in our community.

    It’s our responsibility to ensure that we look after our blog

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  54. Ras, just a quick question; am I allowed to point out that StM eschewed the not uncommon word “inanity? in favour of his own word “inaness? (think of it as 2 words – Freudian slip anyone?)? In the light of yesterday’s revelations, surely my observations are just the wonderings of an enquiring mind and no more?

    Comment by Big Fish — January 12, 2007 @ 1:15 pm |Edit This

    Absolutely.

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  55. but we should speak out against bad journalism which lead to unnessary “hero worship?

    Comment by Oranje Orakel — January 12, 2007 @ 1:15 pm |Edit This

    Indeed, OO.

    The only worship allowed around here is Raspy Worship.

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  56. The only worship allowed around here is Raspy Worship.
    Comment by Rasputin — January 12, 2007 @ 1:24 pm

    Very monkishly done I suppose! :smile:

    On the issue of curried carrot salad- is it just me or is the character of Rabbit( I dont see rasputin in him mind you- the carrothinghy just triggered an “algorithm” :smilesmile, on Winny the pOOh not a gOOd resemblance of whom St Mike would have want to be?

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  57. dawn, you wanna watch some Shark videos with me? I still have mine, Rob lost his…um videos… when he got married… :lol:
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  58. Mind you another schoker was when Lourens Prinsloo- Free State 11- lost the ball when he went down but did not dot it- and then without any opposition near him fumbled the ball.

    Shyte I was hopping mad- 88 or 89!

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  59. #

    Question!

    Is an insult any less of an insult if it is phrased in flowery wording?
    Comment by Ollie — January 12, 2007 @ 11:28 am

    No but at least the eloqence ( spelling) can be applauded :smile:

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  60. A Sharks fan “losing? his Sharks videos.

    A likely story.

    Comment by Dawn — January 12, 2007 @ 1:30 pm |Edit This

    Ja Dawn

    I’m having difficulty buying that one as well.

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  61. Thanks OO,

    I was wondering id somebody would pick up on that.

    Comment by Ollie — January 12, 2007 @ 1:42 pm

    IS THAT YOU ALDO? WELCOME BACK!!!

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  62. Dawn, dont knock it till you try it. I guess it would be torture for an opposition supporter to watch though- nobody likes to see their heroes humbled. :lol:
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  63. BF – you remain a scholar and a gentleman… and a true Sharks supporter!

    Comment by robdylan© — January 12, 2007 @ 11:18 am

    Bias if ever there was!!! :mrgreen:
    Comment by wpw — January 12, 2007 @ 11:29 am

    I can categorically state that I have never, ever read a biased comment from robdylan ever!

    SHARKS forever!!

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  64. OO

    Lion Cup against The Bulls 1988

    That try would have won FS the game

    Prinsloo tried to make a ‘sierlike’ dive and instead only succeeded on throwing the ball forward out of his hand

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  65. While on the subject of political correctness.

    Am I allowed to use words like fark, k@k, poepol, province, lions and other profanities like that?

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  66. Was this aimed at anybody in specific?
    Comment by Vinnie — January 12, 2007 @ 2:15 pm

    Referring to the whole string or a specific comment?

    Either way I don’t think anyone specific.

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  67. PJLD, if you lived all alone on a farm in the middle of nowhere, and there were no woman about, maybe you would also be moved to serenade a donkey? :wink:
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  68. Dawn

    Just wait till his cd sales start falling.

    Then “pampoene”, “ryperde” and “leeus wat loop” all become fair game!

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  69. As someone who is far more regular a visitor than one who posts I am strongly of the opinion that the big six have got it right and that it should stay as such.
    The quality of posts are generally excellent and the comments as well as the banter that follows likewise. People generally treat each other with respect over here and I’m sure that for most of us that’s all we really want from our fellow human beings, whether here or face to face out there in the real world.

    Here’s hoping that this trend continues.

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  70. PJLD, still marvelling man!!!

    Dawn, lets not get caught up in trivialities, I will sing about the farm animal of your choice if you insist! :lol:

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  71. dawn

    How about you and BF get together sometime? He has been hinting since like forever!!!

    I’m sure you can think of something the two of you can do, i mean talk about.

    You both love rugby, both of you support the Stormers!!! I think you will find you have quite a lot in common…

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  72. Eish RedJ Dawn

    Sonvanger from Valiant Swart is one of the 5 best Afferkaans songs of all time

    Others being

    kOos kombuis ‘s Lisa se klavier

    and the other three I will leave for some debate

    :grin:

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  73. Hey now wpw, don’t be besmirching my honour, Im a Shark for life! You could be gutted for stuff like that. There are somethings I will never do, no matter how fine the lady! :lol:
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  74. OO

    Great songs, of which the actual story is often overlooked because of their catchy tunes, are:
    Sproetjies
    Pampoen
    Skipskop
    Sprokie van ‘n Stadskind.

    But there are so many we could go on for days.

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  75. Whatever happened to that other crazy poster from Voldy…just before the emergence of Dawn, im sure it was a guy but used to make biiiig k@k over there?

    The name eludes me.

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  76. Other one redj also by kOOs Dup

    Op ‘n donkeraand diep in Junie maand…

    eish classic song that

    Dont know RobD

    When Lucas gets going its usually avery gOOd show

    he also have a gOOde – o Brannewyn laat my staan…

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  77. #

    Sonvanger is baie sad.

    Maak my huil.
    Comment by Dawn — January 12, 2007 @ 2:45 pm

    Sure Dawn

    He wrote it for a friend who lost a girl becoz of cancer

    When the Orakels totally crack me up I hum sonvanger

    It lifts me mOOd!

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  78. Would love to find out more wpw, but alas, seems I’m doomed to pine in vain, forever in twilight, and never quite seeing the Dawn…
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  79. “Diep in die Bos” by Valiant. Also a kwaai song.

    “Al bly die Berge nog so Blou” By Kerkorrel. An even kwaaier song.

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  80. OO – there was a song about the Boer War (which we will not discuss) that I really enjoyed. Piet on Piano and Jon playing the Cello

    “Staan saam, burgers, staan saam”

    Gave me goosies that one.

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  81. Piet Botha / Jack Hammer is awesome, did you guys know that Angelina Jolies X, Billy Bob Thornton was in Piet Bothas band when he lived in the States
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  82. Comment by robdylan© — January 12, 2007 @ 2:55 pm |Edit This

    Post another long comment like that, which goes right off the screen and your ass is heading for the banning bin, my son. :evil:

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  83. Oh Lord, what the evil is going on here?

    red, such is life, sometimes one is doomed to eternal darkness and Dawn never comes, which is her own damn fault for leaving me all alone. Still, night does have its benefits…

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  84. Poor old Ig

    Nancy, 3rdday, bliksem, StM, Tackler.

    Voldy doesn’t pay the big guy nearly enough!

    I’d like to see the size of the stress balls on Ig’s desk! :lol:

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  85. Hi Guys and gals, I have read this hread with interest and as it is my first time here I must say I am a bit surprised at the heavy handedness of the controlers of this site.

    A blog is an area of free expression and must be treated as such.

    By setting up a blog, one excepts that there will be bloggers with views that differ.

    If bloggers are unhappy with comments that they disgree with or the content of their posting is offencive, just let it be. Those bloggers will soon get the message.

    But to stifle freedom of speech as disagreable as it might be takes us back to the dark ages.

    Further trying to curb true sports lovers’ need for information and interaction, so what if this is a rugby blog, we all love our sport and the odd chat about cricket and such like should not be put down by the powers that be, as that is censorship in itself.

    Other than that I like what I read.

    Just a suggestion can’t you remove the colour and ads on the comment pages as they create long refresh times and nobody takes any notice of them anyhow.

    Can’t wait for the Stormers game on Saterday time for the Bulls to have their nackers twisted.

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  86. I personally Have TWO of me inside my head at any given Time !!!

    And i manage …

    There are 6 of you and you are complaining … ha no sympathy

    and no i dont see a shrink !

    The irish are impervious to psyco analysis … even Froyd said so !

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  87. OO I dont know whether Lukas Maree still does English cover versions but if he does ask him to do “African Sky Blue” by Juluka and also “The Port of Amsterdam” by David Bowie.

    I came across him playing in a dingy ladies bar at the top end of Potgieter Street, Pretoria in the early 80’s. He only played English cover versions and went by the name of Luke Allen.

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  88. The irish are impervious to psyco analysis … even Froyd said so !

    Comment by Murph — January 12, 2007 @ 3:13 pm |Edit This

    Murph,

    Was that ‘Froyd’ or Keith Floyd (after a tipple or three) that said it?

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  89. Blade,

    We are not inhibiting the freedom of speech. All we are asking is for people to respect each other.

    This is a sport blog and you have all the freedom to discuss sport here via civilised debate and harmless banter. It is not unfair to ask people to steer away from racist or defamatory remarks.

    Should the topic of racism come up, by all means discuss it through intelectual debate and with respect to all parties involved.

    In short : Be mature about it.

    We try to cover other sports aswell. I know there is sometimes remarks towards other sports being discussed, but that is also frowned upon.

    We are sports lovers, so welcome and enjoy.

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  90. Blade – welcome.

    Look, to be honest, I think you may have picked an unfortunate thread on which to base your assessment of RuggaWorld. Stick around for a while and hopefully you’ll find that we’re nowhere near as heavy-handed as you may think.

    Cricket banter (as well as any other sort of non-offensive discussion) is welcome. In hindsight, my comment earlier was perhaps a little harsh, although there was an existing thread up and running where people were discussing the cricket already.

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  91. Hi Blade,

    Welcome.

    Please feel free to chat as much as you want about any sport.

    On the issue of the blog, we certainly don’t want to inhibit reader’s freedom of expression, merely avoid malignant or deliberately offensive posts.

    It’s a balance between individual’s right to expressing their opinions and our right to host a blog that is not gratuitously offensive.

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  92. Sure blade

    But I think the Big 6 has got it spot on

    There was some other issues that should not be tolerated- even not on blog

    and even freedom of speech have limits

    But enjoy- you will find gOOde info here and even better insight

    :grin:

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  93. Nancy is not in jail, S/he became seriously ill which curtailed her contribution – a great shame – the original Voldy stirrer.
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  94. Blade,

    Ignore RobD on his cricket comments. He suffers from cricketophobia.

    Please feel free to chat about any sport, Donner will be most appreciative if you’re a motorsports fan or family of Jeremy Clarkson.

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    Attention all users:

    Motorsport is a misnomer. It’s not real sport.

    Please refrain from discussing it here.

    Thank you

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  96. redj

    Board Members:

    Donner – Stormers & WP
    PissAnt – Stormers & WP
    RobD – Sharks
    KSA – Sharks
    DavidS – Lions
    Rasputin – Stormers & WP

    Sorry bro, you are out voted!!!

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  97. Point taken guys, look foreward to it but have to rush. Cheers

    Redj – Keep your eyes peeled and dem blues tucked away neatly.

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  98. IMM

    Was ‘she’ a real person? Not just a pseudonym for another poster?

    I liked Nancy. As I recall, she had an articulate wit.

    I must remember to ask Ig that next time I’m in contact with him.

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  99. “This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever? (Sigmund Freud – about the Irish)

    Comment by Murph — January 12, 2007 @ 3:26 pm |Edit This

    Hehehehehehe, did he seriously say that, Murph?

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  100. [Anyone know of any great feuds? There have been some great put-downs in literary history.]

    Bury the hatchet? How very boring

    Ben Macintyre

    The art of feuding is in a sorry state

    With great sadness we learn that the Colombian Nobel prize winner Gabriel García Márquez and the Peruvian author Mario Vargas Llosa, after a thrillingly long and bitter feud, are patching up their differences. The two writers last exchanged words, and blows, in 1976, but now they will publish together: a prologue by Vargas Llosa will appear in a special 40th anniversary edition of García Márquez’s One Hundred Years of Solitude. Their story has been given a happy ending; the hatchet has been buried; and the world is a shade more drab as a result.

    Writers have always conducted colourful feuds, and the García Máarquez-Vargas Llosa vendetta was one of the best. Once they were the closest friends. García Márquez was godfather to Vargas Llosa’s son. Then relations cooled, their political paths diverged, and three decades ago, for reasons that have never been fully explained by either side, the friendship came to an end with a fierce fist-fight in a Mexican cinema.

    The art of the feud seems to be dying out. Writers once exhibited their sworn enemies with as much pride as any literary award. Politicians delighted in grudge and vengeance, and waded happily though rivers of bad blood. Artists openly slopped paint and vitriol over one another.

    Public figures are no more tolerant of one another than they ever were, but in an age of false politeness and fake amity, the old-fashioned blood feud is increasingly rare. Only a few staunch figures still cultivate their enemies with proper care.

    This week, Robin Cook offered a timely reminder that it is perfectly possible to settle old scores when you are dead. His gravestone epitaph — “I may not have succeeded in halting the war, but I did secure the right of Parliament to decide on war? — captured the man precisely: needling, defensive and determined to have the last word, carved in stone. In life, Cook was so bristling and unlovely that it was said he could create an ugly scene when left alone in a room. I admired him greatly.

    Norman Mailer, the veteran fighter-writer, is another who upholds the long-established tradition that if you can’t beat ’em, thump ’em. Mailer sat on Truman Capote, headbutted and punched Gore Vidal, and stabbed his first wife with a penknife when she called him a “faggot?. He wrote to William Styron, after a disobliging review: “I will invite you to a fight in which I expect to stomp out of you a fat amount of your yellow and treacherous shit.? Now walking on two sticks, aged 83, and partially blind, Mailer is still lashing out with admirable venom, most recently at The New York Times book critic Michiko Kakutani (“a one-woman kamikaze?).

    A feud is very different from a disagreement over principle, a rivalry, or mere mutual antipathy. Julie Burchill is adept at manufacturing fights that look like feuds, but are really only the ritual exchange of insults. The term “feud? is too often applied to a disagreement between two people who happen to have a computer and a taste for publicity.

    A genuine feud must be personal, prolonged, public, petty and so encrusted with ancient anger that only the participants (and possibly not even they) can remember how it started. The best feuds are nurtured over a lifetime, delivered in the form of steel barbs, sharpened with malice aforethought. Revenge should be served not only cold, but with the most elaborate garnish. Bevis Hillier recently served up such a dish to A.N. Wilson, his rival Betjeman biographer, by planting on him a fake letter from an invented mistress in which the first character of each sentence spelt an offensive message.

    Most important feuds are sparked by something entirely unimportant. Vladimir Nabokov and the critic Edmund Wilson fell out after a quarter-century of close friendship over the precise translation of a single Russian phrase in Pushkin’s Eugene Onegin.

    The troubled relationship between Tony Blair and Gordon Brown is often described as a feud, but fails the test in several respects. The cause of their conflict is too specific and obvious. There is no direct confrontation. In public they maintain an utterly unconvincing harmony.

    The joy of Cook and Mailer was their eagerness not only to give but to take offence openly; to respond to an original slight, whether intended or not, with overwhelming and disproportionate rudeness; to hone resentment over time, and deliver the insulting punchline immediately after the punch. “Words fail Norman Mailer yet again,? said Vidal, after Mailer had floored him with a single blow in a television studio. The remark was far too brilliant to have been spontaneous.

    These are the hallmarks of the truly great feud. Never forgive or reconcile. Never back down. Land the first blow and extract the last laugh, even if that means chiselling it onto your headstone. (“I told you I was ill!? wails Spike Milligan’s epitaph.) Above all, take the fight to the enemy. In 1936 Wallace Stevens the poet, drunk, accosted Ernest Hemingway at a party and sneered: “So, you think you’re Ernest Hemingway?? The resulting punch-up left both writers battered, and even more famous.

    That is what makes the Blair-Brown feud-by-proxy (and the García Márquez-Vargas Llosa rapprochement) so dreary. I suspect that the two great literary lions of Latin America still dislike one another heartily. We know that Mr Blair and Mr Brown do. But the rules of modern hypocrisy value bogus bonhomie over honest animus. In the literary world, back-scratching sells more books than eye-gouging. Mr Blair and Mr Brown must conduct their quarrel in venomous whispers, behind their hands.

    Once, just once, I would love to see Mr Brown square up to his rival, poke him in the chest, and declare: “So, you think you’re Tony Blair??

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  101. Ras

    He did indeed

    We have an iherent sense of Ambivalence which means we cant contemplate conflicting idea’s and hold them with equal regard or no regard equally

    ie we can just switch off / dont care / will take action that will … lets not go there

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  102. Ras

    Get hold of “‘n Suitcase vol Winter” by Piet Botha. Excelent song.

    Apparently in “Stuur groete aan Mannetjies Roux” – “The Oom” she sings about apparently commits suicide. Never heard that bit but that’s what my wife’s Afrikaans teacher said.

    Cheers

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  103. Blade say “Booooooo?!!!

    We just want to hear how big a Stormers supporter you really are?

    Comment by redj — January 12, 2007 @ 3:30 pm

    LMAO!!! :lol:

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  104. Quinny,

    “A genuine feud must be personal, prolonged, public, petty and so encrusted with ancient anger that only the participants (and possibly not even they) can remember how it started. The best feuds are nurtured over a lifetime, delivered in the form of steel barbs, sharpened with malice aforethought. Revenge should be served not only cold, but with the most elaborate garnish.”

    Happy?

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  105. 6 Sub Editors

    500 unique registered members

    4,200 unique visitors every month

    What other stats can you offer?

    Page downloads? Time spent here?
    Where visitors come from?
    Where visitors go to?
    Origin of visitors from various countries?

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  106. Need to find someone to read it to me then.

    Those sort of posts are non-compatitable with my skim-reading technique, which is generally top drawer – save for the odd fish hook from St|M that I miss…

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  107. Irish were too crazy , too complex, or too smart to be successfully analyzed

    Comment by Murph — January 12, 2007 @ 3:38 pm |Edit This

    Murph, I’m sure the Scots would be close to qualifying as well.

    Perhaps it’s a Celtic thing?

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  108. MY OOM SE MOTOR IS ‘N OU MASJIEN
    HY MAAK DIT VOL MET DIESELIEN
    EN HY SING IN DIE STRATE AS HY ONS KOM SIEN
    MY OOM IS OUD EN EK IS SKAARS DERTIEN
    MY OOM DRINK KOFFIE EN MY TANNIE TEE
    EK VRA OOR DIE REËN EN HY SÊ JA-NEE
    EN HY DRINK SOET KOFFIE MET SY EEN OOG TOE
    EN HY PRAAT WEER OOR DIE DRIE VAN MANNETJIES ROUX

    KOOR:
    O STUUR ONS NET SO ‘N BIETJIE REËN
    MY OOM HET ‘N TENK VOL DIESELIEN
    EN SEËN MY PA EN SEËN MY MA
    EN MY OOM OP SY PLAAS IN AFRIKA

    MAAR MY OOM HET GESUKKEL OP DIE PLAAS
    WANT DIE SON WAS TE WARM EN DIE REËN TE SKAARS
    EN DIE MAN VAN DIE BANK HET NET SY KOP GESKUD
    WANT MY OOM, JA MY OOM WAS TE DIEP IN DIE SKULD

    MY OOM SE MOTOR IS ‘N OU MASJIEN
    HY MAAK DIT VOL MET DIESELIEN
    EN HY RY NA DIE LANDE IN DIE OGGENDDOU
    DIE LANDE VAAL EN SY OË GROU

    HERHAAL KOOR

    EN AS JY IN DIE OGGEND IN DIE LANDE STAP
    HOOR JY NOG SY MOTOR MET SY KLAK-KLAK-KLAK
    MAAR MY OOM, JA MY OOM SE OË’S NOU ALBEI TOE
    IN SY BRIEF STUUR HY GROETE AAN MANNETJIES ROUX

    That bit is apparently about his suicide note because he was too deep “in die skuld”

    Cheers

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  109. So many questions!

    Just exploring here & trying to get to know you

    I like the content here and repartee between bloggers

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  110. who sang “‘n Brief vir Simone?? Was it Lukas Maree?
    —————————–
    Anton Goosen. Hy het dit ook geskryf.
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  111. I see you are a Capie, what with your knowledge of the two Glens & Clifton.

    Where is your crib?

    Comment by Jack Sparrow — January 12, 2007 @ 3:37 pm |Edit This

    Jack Sparrow, or should that be Captain, my ‘crib’ is in Londres.

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  112. robd

    i mailed Ig asking him if it’s true. He sent me the mail in which the person who made it up apologised. his nick is handbagslasher. what a tonsil!

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  113. Comment by Methos — January 12, 2007 @ 3:47 pm |Edit This

    Methos,

    You’re a skolly and a gentleman, thanks!

    Will listen to it.

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  114. Hi Donner!

    I am trying to sort out the South African rugby sites to visit on a daily basis to catch the news and have 5 down as favourites – Ruggaworld is in there

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  115. Jack Sparrow,

    Last I heard is that the whale didn’t quite make the journey back to the see. It snuffed it somewhere along the way.

    Some of the rescuers where mighty pee’ed of though when they cam back to their cars and saw parking tickets on them.

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  116. Board Members:
    Donner – Stormers & WP
    PissAnt – Stormers & WP
    RobD – Sharks
    KSA – Sharks
    DavidS – Lions
    Rasputin – Stormers & WP
    Sorry bro, you are out voted!!!
    Comment by wpw — January 12, 2007 @ 3:27 pm

    Tragedy.

    Who the hell do they all root for in the second half of every season? :smile:

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  117. Who the hell do they all root for in the second half of every season?

    Comment by redj — January 12, 2007 @ 3:55 pm |Edit This

    We draw straws, Redj :mrgreen:

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  118. Tragedy.

    Who the hell do they all root for in the second half of every season? :smile:
    Comment by redj — January 12, 2007 @ 3:55 pm

    hehehe redJ

    Thats the time of year when they get mOOdy

    :grin:

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  119. wpw you’ll be glad to hear Prince and Amla are slowly steaying the ship

    Only roblem is there are ZERO batsmen after them

    Comment by DavidS — January 12, 2007 @ 3:54 pm

    Boucher and Polly will make a couple.

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  120. Is there an annual election re-these Board Members?

    Looks discriminatory to me, what with no Bulls & Cheetahs represented. How about some “BEE” deals – “Bulls Editorial Empowerent” or even better, a few more Sharks as Board members? ;)

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  121. RobD

    Simon is actually a very nice bloke. He played a few games for Harlequins in 2003 when I played there. Stays quite close to me.

    Sometimes see him at the Local Spar.

    Cheers

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  122. And Amla drops the side again.

    HGibbs looking as solid as a piece of excrement binding together a ship’s hull in a Force Ten Gale in the middle of the Pacific

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  123. Methos,

    Sjoe, I forget to thank you for the pics. Shot, they are great. Schalk is looking trim and his haystack hairstyle looks just the same.

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  124. Ok, QS, but we should help the BM’s and find some Bulls who can read and write.

    Red, I know you can, but thats just one!

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  125. IMM

    Bliksem was a real bliksem for doing that and many of us could have done him a physical injury afterwards but it was good to hear he was actually okay.

    In time it will go down as one of the classic hoaxes.

    Still, his action has made it unlikely that any genuine tragedy will now get a thread. So it was pretty bloody thoughtless of the tonsil.

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  126. I’m off for the weekend. Got to get some fishing in before I fetch the wife from work.

    Be good kids.
    And Pray for the Bulls – They are going to need it.

    Cheers

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  127. I have a very fundamental problem with Simon, Methos… very fundamental. But that’s just his Keo persona… no idea what he’s like in real life, so I’m happy to take your word on that.

    Still, I can’t resist asking… do you rest your beer on his head?

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  128. a few more Sharks as Board members?

    Comment by Quinnyshark — January 12, 2007 @ 4:03 pm |Edit This

    Quinny! :shock:

    You have no idea about the hours of self-loathing that I subjected myself to just thinking of bringing these two Sharks onboard.

    Enuff, I say, enuff is enuff!

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  129. I have a very fundamental problem

    Comment by robdylan© — January 12, 2007 @ 4:07 pm |Edit This

    Rob,

    Is that a fundamental problem or a problem of the fundament?

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  130. Had a chuckle this morning re-Pietersen.

    Stupid bugger. I mean, by charging down the wicket to McGrath you are just looking for KAK!

    Fool.

    I will just chalk down 10-0 in my notebook.

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  131. Redj,

    I support all SA’s teams actually. I’m as delighted for the Bulls if they make the semis as I would be if the bloody Stormers ever achieved it again (thanks Marinos!).

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  132. As importantly, we’d like to invite those who take issue with anything on the site to discuss it. Let us know your thoughts, give us your ambitions for the site, help us out. We’re not omniprescent, most times we’re not even here when the dwang hits the fan.

    I’d like to comment on the BM’s cross-loyalty.
    I find it unacceptable and feel it may affect their objectivity…

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  133. I support 2 rugby teams. Wasps and WP.

    Wasps at their very best stand a chance in the HC. I doubt we’ll win but there are big games to look forward to. Liek this weekend.

    In the ZP my particular favourite match is the one vs Leiceter. A real tussle. I enjoy the Bath game as an ancient rivalry, Sale as the coming team and Northampton becauase of the size of their travelling support. The toffs, Quinns, need a good snotting and the Irish always need to be put in their place. And the majority of these matches are too close to call.

    My other team. WP. No chance in the S14. No point watching it. If I was to disregrad the pitiful standards of the CC and actually watch it – well the majority of matches are cake walks. We have 5 top teams challenging for 4 spots – at least one is usually in a state of abject disarray so qualification for the semi’s is usually assured. And if not the team is too piss poor for me to even watch. If it makes the semi I have 2 decent matches of rugby to watch in a season, assuming we win through to the final.

    No wander SA fans are leaving the game in droves. No wander many have taken to supporting an English Premiership rugby team. No wander so many just chose to watch English football.

    Its hard to get up for the season in SA.

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  134. StM

    I’ve been wondering about the following…so please enlighten me old boy…. How does a Lancastrian support a London-based rugby team, & not the Sale Sharks?

    Puzzling indeed.

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  135. StM

    What have been the relative great eras of the various clubs?

    70’s = Bath?
    80’s = Bath?
    90’s = Leicester?
    00’s = Wasps?

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  136. Comment by StMichel — January 12, 2007 @ 4:20 pm

    Liek, becauase, wander!

    Eish Vinnie did you take StM with to the boozer?

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  137. My other team. WP. No chance in the S14. No point watching it. If I was to disregrad the pitiful standards of the CC and actually watch it – well the majority of matches are cake walks.

    Comment by StMichel — January 12, 2007 @ 4:20 pm |Edit This

    Actually, StM, last year’s CC was one of the more exciting for years. So there’s hope that you’ll get good use out of that Newlands box.

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  138. Comment by StMichel — January 12, 2007 @ 4:20 pm

    Liek, becauase, wander!

    Eish Vinnie did you take StM with to the boozer?

    Comment by redj — January 12, 2007 @ 4:24 pm |Edit This

    Redj, I do believe you’re right. I suspect StM has partaken of a liquid lunch at his club.

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  139. Let me just remind you all of the scoreline in one of those many “top-drawer” Guiness Premiership games….:

    Saturday, 06 January 2007
    Harlequins 9 – 3 Bath (HT: 6 – 0)

    Pens: Pens:
    Jarvis 3 Barkley

    What a humdinger!

    Yawn.

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  140. Born in Lancashire. Lived down South. I dont attend county cricket. I do attend rugby. Cheer on a local team. But its not life and death for me. Not like supporting Liverpool.
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  141. Vinnie,

    i’ve always meant to pay a visit to The Stoop, but never got round to it. Heard it has a quite nice atmosphere etc.

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  142. Hmmmm, bet with self:

    £10 on Prince getting his 50 within 100 balls, at odds of 5-1.

    Comment by Quinnyshark — January 12, 2007 @ 4:23 pm |Edit This

    *AG Prince (lhb) 50 runs 98 balls

    You win, Quinny!

    What are you going to do with the 50 quid?

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  143. LOL Rasputin

    Yup, I won £50 of my own money.

    Should have popped around to Ladbrokes during that drinks interval….

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  144. StM,

    “But its not life and death for me. Not like supporting Liverpool.”

    its precisely this lack of understanding that shines through in your posts…either make a concreted effort to learn about a proper sport or get a rugby colleague in as a replacement.

    no pretenders on this board please.

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  145. cab

    come see St M’s “admission of fault” on the cricket thread.

    Must have been very humbling for the old bean. And very enjoyable for the rest of us!

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  146. Ras

    Great ‘proposal’.

    “I think this should becom the vision statement for the site.

    Comment by Genl. Joubert — January 12, 2007 @ 8:50 am ”

    Would you seriously consider this – there are a couple of ‘extra’ ideas you may add – thinking of PA’s “say only what you will say face to face.”

    I have been thinking yesterday and last night to post the following – I thought the better of it then – but after reading this thread believe it to somewhat appropriate.

    Being fascinated with our ‘frames of mind’ experience in your own mind this descriptive way of explaning what happens when people don’t follow the BM’s clear and fair guidelines.

    – – – –
    “Imagine yourself at a braai with everybody blogging in attendance.

    After some chatting and beers – one person think it quite funny to take a ‘piss’ at someone els – just a small squirt. Naturally the the aimed at recipient becomes somewhat upset, never mind that the others standing closeby also got some of the spray and is dripping as well.

    The receiver reacts and take a bigger ‘piss’ at the sender. Now those in close proximity is splashed as well. Some join in taking a ‘piss’ thinking it is quite funny that EVERYONE HERE is getting splashed.

    Then someone really gets his back up and decide to hurl some ‘harder facts’ arround. The recipient don’t want to be coverred alone and throw some back of his own – taking a full roundhouse swing, spraying as he winds-up for final delivery.

    The reality is that everyone in attendance get covered – if you don’t want to get coverred you have to leave, the moment you become aware of the ‘piss’ about to come, long before any escalations.

    Beforelong we have a full-on sewerage ‘party’ that we don’t really want to visit – even when invited.”
    – – – –

    I for one don’t enjoy having to scratch someone els’s crap of my mind OR EVEN BLOCKING IT FROM ENTERING.

    I prefer to belong to a community where we treat each other with respect – please not I did not say “treat someone the same way you want to be treated” or “show someone the same respect you want to be shown”.

    Why not?
    Because frankly some people don’t respect themselves and dont treat themselves in an enhancing way.

    So I ask for a set standard to which all community members comply – thanks Ras, you provided us with an excellent guideline.

    I would like it to become the site ‘standard’ or ‘policy’ for participation – and place it where everyone can referrence it.

    Thank you RuggaWorld for a most enjoyable, informative and friendship rugby-site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  147. StM

    Thanks

    I thought long and hard about this.

    Excessive crudeness seems the most appropriate to get the message across.

    I am all for challenging – awakening – probing – even – provoking – each other FOR ENHANCEMENT.

    The rest leave me cold!!!

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  148. TB,

    I should have just got you to write the thing in the first place!

    Your braai ‘piss’ analogy was wonderful and exactly what happens.

    Thanks.

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  149. Ras
    Your sentiments are well expressed. I suggest that everyone who visits this, or any other site, reads Tim Berners-Lee book on the story of the Web. How he invented the concept, drove it and assisted in managing it. His ideals still permeate the spirit of what we do here. The web is as much an ideal as it is a technology. I truly believe we should honour the concept of what this man has given to the world and the vision he’s bestowed upon us.
    It is so easy to take for granted in the same way that the printing press has been, but this has been a gigantic step and one we shouldn’t abuse. It is a gift, let’s respect it.
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  150. And thank you to all bloggerslast last who gave me such a warm welcome.

    I think this site is fantastic and its great to see so many people concerned about upholding a standard of decency and respect. It is what won me over (the general standard of the site) and I am sure it will attract many many like minded bloggers in the future.

    Keep it up!

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  151. Hello Blokkies –
    Those are kind words, ta.
    Please feel free to contact any of the
    BM’s with contributions to the site –
    you sound quite informed and a skillful
    writer.
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  152. I have been in Qatar for two days and so very sadly did not get to be around when this thread was posted.

    All I can say is it really does make me feel good to be part of this site.

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  153. Boertjie you are too kind!

    Not too sure about the skillful part at this time on a friday night, but fanks massive anyway!

    You guys got a great thing going here, which I hope to be part of for many blogging sessions to come.

    Been quite a bit of unrest the last 2 days I see. Its not always a bad thing, lots of good is already coming out of it.

    I’m off to watch last nights Boots and All on Kudu Club.

    Cheers for now.

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  154. Hey KSA,

    I’m trying damn hard to convince a client in your neck of the woods that they need training on our program. But no bite

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  155. Boertjie.

    After what the Danish printed in their paper about Mohammed I may not be allowed to talk to him. I will have to check with the authorities before i see him next time. :wink:

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  156. Hoezit Ollie
    Friday night I suppose.
    Haven’t seen Duiwel around for days,
    he’s often around this time.
    Stay tuned for the Monk, maybe.
    And the Cabbage. Or maybe he’s putting
    a leg over some French lass.
    :wink:
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  157. Jip, some of these fundamentalists are
    — well, fundamental.
    Just read a story of a young couple in
    Anesch, Indonesia, awarded with five and
    three whips in public.
    Caught having sex in a house; not married.
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  158. KSA
    The program is for managing Trademark and Patent Rights. It is used by companies and law firms keeping track of deadlines etc.
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  159. Transferred this from the Cricket thread
    as I feel strongly about it:

    Sorry, I really don’t
    want to make an issue
    out of this

    but I think a lot of us
    are missing the point

    I’m probably the biggest
    slut of them all
    so, naked pictures and
    graphic descriptions
    is most definitely not
    the problem at all

    However, the community
    you want to establish
    with the mona lisa’s and heksies
    and dawns and flinkies
    and sharkettes and other female
    contributors do not take
    any prisoners at all

    neither does the father
    with his son on his lap
    contributing to RuggaWorld
    asking uncomfortable questions

    This is a forum for rugby union
    and other sport going with that

    which even includes recipes
    as part of the Saturday braai

    that all aside, you still want
    to have a Sunday braai
    with the ethics and values
    of this community intact

    BUT, most of all
    we want this community
    to grow and get new members

    Which members, you might ask?

    Those who got to the site
    because of word of mouth
    or those who got to the site
    because of search engine algorithms?

    I’ll tell you what
    those who got to the site
    because of the algorithms
    might just not ber the same
    way inclined as those who
    were told “Please do visit us?

    The choice is yours

    If I’m to blame for that attitude
    at least I’ll know where I stand
    in this “community?

    Skynheiligheid – Nah, I don’t think so
    Realism – Good, let’s talk!

    Comment by Kandas — January 12, 2007 @ 11:10 pm

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  160. Aldo is gone, it seems.
    Haven’t seen the Boerethug for ages.
    Missing his typing.
    But you’re a close second, Ollie :smile:
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  161. Kandas,

    I’m not sure who the original article was meant for. I know things were getting a bit harsh for RuggaWorld standards at one stage yesterday.

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  162. Hmmm – I’m on it.

    This silly thing is slow in learning. Mail me if it happens again

    Comment by robdylan© — January 12, 2007 @ 12:29 pm

    Who/what is the real slow one here….

    Sure up to 200 of my posts haven’t shown……

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  163. Hey KSA

    Sheesh that whole Mohammed cartoons story was absolutely mad. The moment I saw them in the papaer here I knew there would be huge kak, as I have numerous Muslim friends and colleagues in Cape Town who are not radical at all, but I knew that they would get cheesed at that kind of disrespect, as would I if someone took the piss out of something I hold dear.

    Without getting into the wole story ( because believe me there is a lot more to it (politics)involved than just some irresponsible editor putting silly pics into his newspaper, but on behalf of most of the Dodgy Danes I know, it was not the wish of the general public to attract such negative press to Denmark.

    So, can we still be friends? ;-)

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  164. Ja Ollie

    Denmark is this (supposed) liberal country with free love and all that, and I would guess 90% of the population are major pacifists, but for a while during that time the gloves were off and every man woman and child were just going berserk.

    I distanced myself from it all and just sat back and watched the show……. it beat the crap out of Jerry Springer, thats for sure.

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  165. It was quite funny in the sense that you hardly ever hear anything political about any of the scandanavian countries and then suddenly the Danes come up in the middle of a storm, at a bad moment in history.
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  166. Blokkies

    More comical than unrest.

    All the Danish products were removed from the shelves but not from the shops. So they had the Yellow tape (sort of “crime scene tape)around the products to prevent the people from buying it. :smile:

    And all the Danish flag stickers with crosses through them all over the place.

    The biggest Danish advertising campaign for Danish product ever launced by the Saudi’s if you ask me. :wink:

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  167. KSA

    PLEASE, you are NOT in the wrong!

    You’ve got your own life
    and other things to worry about.

    BUT, if you look at the article
    you will see two main things

    1. Me predicting that Beckham would go to USA
    3. Me predicting Herschelle Gibbs would cream them

    Both came true within a couple of days
    and I’ve written the article 5 days ago

    Not your fault at all

    but how do I explain it
    to the sceptics out there?

    Other than Kandas was just waiting
    for the matter after fact?

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  168. So, can we still be friends?

    Comment by Blokkies — January 12, 2007 @ 11:38 pm

    The authorities are sleeping at the moment so i will have to get back to you after the S14 ;wink:

    Who do you support BTW :wink:

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  169. Ja, thats the angle I took: there is no such thing as bad exposure….

    I don’t even know the full story but in a nutshell, there are lots of Muslim people in Denmark, but one cannot even begin to compare a 2nd or 3rd generation Muslim in Denmark to a Muslm in the Middle East, and this is where the problem came. The cartoons were published in DK 4 months before it became a big deal in the Middle East. Most Muslims were totally cool with it, because although there were 6 (I think) cartoons submitted to the newsapaper in question (it was part of a competition) they only published 2 of them, and it was explained in Danish that there was no offence meant but as an open-minded and freedom of speech country the newspaper hoped that they would not cause offence.

    Anyway there was not trouble within the Danish Muslim community until this one guy (wh has huge political ambitions) got hold of all 6 pics and then went on a rampage in the Middle East and basically blew the whole story out of proportion.

    The first time I realised there was any serious trouble was when I saw people burning pictures of the danish queen on a public square. I mean the queen for crying out load, shes 70-odd, sews costumes for the Royal Danish Theatre and stands around waving at people….. why would anyone want to burn pictures of a sweet old lady?

    But in the end it was a very bad joke that went very, very wrong.

    The debates and arguments raged on for months, and the only person who benifitted out of it was the little dude who went running back to Egypt with a blown u story and is now one of the major leaders of a Political Party representing Muslim foreigners in Denmark.

    Thats politicians for you I guess.

    I tell you what, I was not keen on public transport after that. Everyone was very edgy for a long time re suicide bombers as Denmark had tons of threats.

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  170. Boertjie

    I remember Waaaaaayyyyy back StM took us (all RW members) on about misuse of punctuation, spelling and the use of the Smiley’s.

    It seems he has come down to “our” (Saffa)level since then. :lol:

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  171. Kandas
    Well said 11:18.

    Bloody hot out in CT, rain predicted
    for Mon/Tue. Probably just a few spits.

    This one within the parameters of good taste?

    “Men have two emotions: Hungry and Horny. If you see him without an erection, make him a sandwich.”
    :smile:

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  172. I believe Denmark is a FANTASTIC country for those suffering from vertigo?

    Comment by Rasputin — January 12, 2007 @ 11:48 pm

    Bwahahahahaha.

    Highest point in Denmark: 178m above sea level. Name: Himmelbjerg (heaven mountain)

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  173. KSA 12:04

    How the unscrupulous has fallen :wink:

    Maybe he’s just preparing for his emigration
    to the RSA.
    Hell, I hope he brings a large hat and loads
    of sunblock along; dark glasses the lot.

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  174. Ras
    What is the highest point in England?
    The bit I saw was around 40 metres.

    Blokkies
    Very interesting – we never got to read
    that take on affairs.

    KSA
    Ja, I hate sandwiches :wink:

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  175. Blokkies,

    Stop it, you’re killing me! :razz:

    The highest mountain is called Himmelbjerg (heaven mountain) and it’s a stupendous, mind altering 178m high!

    Sjoe, thank heavens our Boks don’t have to play at that altitude! :wink:

    I’m almost willing to bet that Newlands is at a higher altitude!

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  176. Ras
    What is the highest point in England?
    The bit I saw was around 40 metres.

    Comment by Boertjie — January 13, 2007 @ 12:13 am |Edit This

    :mrgreen:

    Bwahahahahahahaha, Boertjie!

    Slightly higher than that!

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  177. Boertjie

    Generally if you take StM’s contributions and remove THAT ONE LINE that he throws in there to bait us, then he makes a hell of a lot of sense.

    Now please read this post quickly because it will delete itself in 30seconds before StM can see it.

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  178. Hallo en good bye.

    Ek het nie lus vir skeinheiligheid nie.

    As ek nou een van Stan se bestes kan gebruik – Bekotsingswaardig.

    Sorry Ras, et al.

    Comment by Donner — January 13, 2007 @ 12:18 am

    Huh???

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  179. Blokkies,

    I have spent a fair amount of time living and working in Copenhagen (perhaps the worlds best airport?) But the Danish are the dullest people on God’s earth. Nightlife in the capital city is non-existant (may I recommend Hereford Steakhouse next to Tivoli Gardens – go for the beer from next door’s micro brewery terrific).

    We used to have to head over to the sports bar (O’Grady’s?) next to the railway station for table football and big screen footie in the evenings. The rest of the city was dead. That’s a high tax economy for you I guess.

    Now Stockholm that place rocks!

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  180. Boertjie you in Cape Town? Lucky bugger.

    KSA: I support WP but if they fall of the wagon like last year (I’m talking S14 here) I have no problem supporting whichever SA team hand out pakslae to the Kiwis and Ozzies.

    However my old man is a hoooge Sharks supporter and used to drag me to Brakpan, Sasolburg, Welkom, Kimberly and any other dodgy dorp you care to think of to watch the Banana Boys when I was a grommit. So I have done my apprenticeship as a Sharkie supporter as a kid, but never actually lived there so once I moved to Cape Town I got hooked on Province ( standing section at Newlands must be the best value for money for both on and off field entertainment anywhere on the planet ;-)

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  181. The highest point in England is Scafell Pike, 978m.

    Comment by Rasputin — January 13, 2007 @ 12:19 am

    Is that why the Poms prefer to TRY and take the moral highground, because they don’t have any ACTUAL high ground in England.

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  182. KSA: I support WP
    Comment by Blokkies — January 13, 2007 @ 12:20 am

    The authorities have replied and apparently there is still a ban on Danish product or association of any kind.

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  183. Please don’t ANYBODY read the second portion of Blokkies’ comment where he intimates that once he finished his Rugby supporter apprenticeship, he became a WP supporter.
    :oops:

    :smile:

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  184. Generally if you take StM’s contributions and remove THAT ONE LINE that he throws in there to bait us, then he makes a hell of a lot of sense.

    Comment by KSA Shark © — January 13, 2007 @ 12:18 am |Edit This

    KSA,

    If that one line is, “I’ve competed at the highest level”, then it’s my absolute all-time favourite!

    In the morning, post-shower, I practise it in as pompous an English accent as my Saffa can produce!

    “I’ve competed at the highest level, I’ll have you know”

    I try and add pathos, then bathos, sometimes gravitas. Sometimes I get a tad cheeky and do it in Estuary English, like innit.

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  185. There is a law of social and professional interaction in Scandi countries, particularly Denmark, that is critical to understand if you want to get on with the Danes.

    I cant remember its name Blokkies but when i do I ‘ll let you know. I thoroughly recommend you learn it.

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  186. The highest point in England is Scafell Pike, 978m.

    Comment by Rasputin — January 13, 2007 @ 12:19 am

    Is that why the Poms prefer to TRY and take the moral highground, because they don’t have any ACTUAL high ground in England.

    Comment by KSA Shark © — January 13, 2007 @ 12:22 am |Edit This

    :lol:

    I swear I think there was a boerwors roll longer than 978m.

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  187. St M

    You are on the ball re the boring people, no argument from me.
    Although I must defend my missus here, as she is an exception ;-)

    Copenhagen airport is cool cos its a “silent” airport so you dont get that loud: PING PONG….. passenger Michel to gate 47 please, PASSENGER MICHEL!

    As for your recommendations, not too shabby, but I prefer more local delights, not being a tourist and all ;-)
    Give me a shout if you ever in the ‘hood. I might just show you a few hidden away gems.

    Tell you what, I’ll swop you a night on the town in Copenhagen for a guided tour byyourself in Stockholm. Haven’t been there yet…

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  188. Now Stockholm that place rocks!

    Comment by StMichel — January 13, 2007 @ 12:20 am |Edit This

    Did you live there as well, StM? It’s a quick hop and a skip via ferry from Copenhagen, isn’t it?

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  189. When in Stockholm go to Spy Bar and Cafe Opera. The nighlife is quite frankly remarkable. If i had my time again I’d live nad work there. I spent 6 months in Stockholm last year. My night out after the Eng vs Swe game in the Footie WC was truely remarkable.

    I finished in Denmark in 2005. Loathe to ever return! Check out those wooden floors at the airport?

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  190. KSA

    Still support them mate, always will. Not big on provincialism.

    Okes I used to watch in the B-league

    Vleis Visagie
    Hugh Reece Edwards
    Craig Jamieson
    Henry Coxwell
    Wynand Claasen

    As I said, got the T-shirt…..

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  191. Although I must defend my missus here, as she is an exception

    Comment by Blokkies — January 13, 2007 @ 12:32 am |Edit This

    Blokkies,

    The wife and I bussed/hitched around Indonesia with a Danish dentist and her brother. We had a blast. Really nice people.

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  192. Dont ever order a Danish pastry in Denmark. Its called Vienna Bread there.

    Comment by StMichel — January 13, 2007 @ 12:25 am
    Question is what do they call it in Vienna :shock:

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  193. There is a law of social and professional interaction in Scandi countries, particularly Denmark, that is critical to understand if you want to get on with the Danes.

    Comment by StMichel — January 13, 2007 @ 12:31 am

    Let me guess:……….. speaking Danish?

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  194. Hey – before you all disappear:

    Talking hills and mountains:
    This guy’s missus is so jealous,
    she won’t allow him to stop at the
    Three Sisters.

    Hahaha.
    Quite funny when I read it.

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  195. My biggest disappointment was what
    the Poms call “mince pies.”
    Over here fruit is fruit, and mince is meat.
    Almost spit it out.
    Hehehe.

    So Blokkies, are what we buy here as Copenhagens genuine?

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  196. Currently on discovery….

    An Englishman killed his friend, used his name and had babies with his own daughter who lived together as husband and wife with their two daughters.

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  197. Well Boertjie thats hard to say, because what we call Danish Pastry, they do have that but they call it a Vienna bread. The thing is they have a gazillion different patries all with different names. They take their bakeries as seriously as we take our butchers.

    There are some tannies in SA who could get some really good ideas for their Tuisgenoot on this side smile

    So I think the term danish pastry is a generic thing outside of denmark meaning anything thats made of dough and is crammed with sugar….

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  198. Comment by Blokkies — January 13, 2007 @ 12:59 am

    As they call brazilian nuts just nuts in Brazil…..don’t they call frankfurters just Ers in Frankfurt?

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  199. heheh

    Nooit. I made koeksisters for my wifes fam once and they loved it, even though they came out like vetkoeks…. but I wasn’t going to tell them that.

    They really going to nail me if they ever get to taste the real thing!!!

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  200. Currently on discovery….

    An Englishman killed his friend, used his name and had babies with his own daughter who lived together as husband and wife with their two daughters.

    Comment by Hmmm — January 13, 2007 @ 12:52 am |Edit This

    Hmmmy!!!!

    Is that really you?

    I didn’t unlock you this time.

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  201. Comment by Boertjie — January 13, 2007 @ 12:44 am |Edit This

    Bwahahahahahahaha

    Simple but highly enjoyable!

    Hmmm is not going to be impressed you posted that before him!

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  202. Hey Ras,

    I must thank you for the info you posted on skiing in Bulgaria a while back.

    I will be taking my family there next year, and so your tips have really helped a lot.

    Seeing as Himmelberg is not quite doing it for me :cool:

    Shot

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  203. Hmmmy, I’m at my wit’s end.

    Rest assured, one way or another we’ll get to the bottom of it.

    I presume you want to stay ‘Hmmm’ to keep up your WordPress Miles, as in Air Miles? That’s fair enough, so would I.

    I’m really sincerely sorry, boet.

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  204. Geez Blokkies!

    Please keep in touch with me, I can offer more advice closer to the time.

    Now you’ve made me nervous!

    What if there’s no snow? No lifts? Too many mafia?

    Sheesh, now I’m going to stress!

    :wink:

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  205. Well we have a whole year to wait for snow, only going in Feb next year. The links you have posted lead me to all kinds of different options, but its always cool to have a recommendation.

    Most danes I know just recommend 5 star French/Swiss resorts and I’m not keen to blow that kind of cash only to stare at Black Run pistes my whole holiday when I am a beginner and my kids are 2 and 4. Think we will all have much more fun in Rom / Bulgaria, and my wallet will be happier too!

    Thanks again.

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  206. Oh I am so sorry StM left, I am busy watching Boots and All on KuduClub, they showed the extended highlights of our WC semi against england. Its amazing how many of the players that won the 2003 WC played that day,and they all look like pups including Woodward. But it also goes to show that experience of playing in a world cup as a squad is vital to success.
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  207. My apologies, Blokkies.

    I’m running around like a madman, trying to answer on a couple of threads and keep releasing Hmmm out of jail.

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  208. Most danes I know just recommend 5 star French/Swiss resorts and I’m not keen to blow that kind of cash only to stare at Black Run pistes my whole holiday when I am a beginner and my kids are 2 and 4. Think we will all have much more fun in Rom / Bulgaria, and my wallet will be happier too!

    Comment by Blokkies — January 13, 2007 @ 1:18 am |Edit This

    Absolutely! That was my whole initial point.

    Your children will love it, it’ll be an experience for your wife (unless she’s skied before?) and it’ll be the cheapest and most relaxed introduction to skiing for you.

    As I said before, we spent two seperate weeks in Romania and a full 2 weeks in Bulgaria. So we know just about enough to offer some handy tips.

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  209. Oh I am so sorry StM left, I am busy watching Boots and All on KuduClub, they showed the extended highlights of our WC semi against england. Its amazing how many of the players that won the 2003 WC played that day,and they all look like pups including Woodward. But it also goes to show that experience of playing in a world cup as a squad is vital to success.

    Comment by Blokkies — January 13, 2007 @ 1:24 am |Edit This

    Absolutely, Blokkies but now the same applies to us!

    Many of our current team went to Australia in 2003 and got humbled.

    Have they grown as individuals, men and rugby players?

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  210. Seems that Hmmm is in C-Max, Pretoria.

    It’s proving bloody difficult to get him out!

    Judge is not interested in bail.

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  211. Sorry Rassie, I am being to demanding, signing off…..

    Comment by Hmmm — January 13, 2007 @ 1:34 am |Edit This

    Not at all, Hmmmy, not at all.

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  212. I would also like to offer you the opportunity –

    I will disappear without any fuss

    Comment by Oranje Orakel — January 12, 2007 @ 7:59 am |Edit This

    You do that, OO, and I will personally travel to the megalopolis of Bloem, hunt you down and……mmmmmm….. ja, well….. you know what I mean….. but you’re a lot bigger and stronger than me ….

    Hey! I know, I’ll set Pinkie on you!

    Oh, never mind! :wink:

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  213. lol Ras, good thing…sets us apart from the rubbish on that other site.

    Comment by JJ — January 12, 2007 @ 8:40 am |Edit This

    I miss your wise posts, JJ. I hope and trust you are well? Feel free to drop me a line.

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  214. Thanks Ras.

    Wilco.

    Comment by redj — January 12, 2007 @ 8:14 am |Edit This

    :wink:

    Get the RSM’s on your side and you’ve won the war.

    Cheers Redj.

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  215. So mag ek van tyd tot tyd in Afrikaans post?

    Comment by Genl. Joubert — January 12, 2007 @ 8:30 am |Edit This

    Genrul,

    For you? No problem! You’ve been missed.

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  216. Having spent time on both sites I have to say this one is streets ahead in terms of calibre of blogger, intelligence, and respect for others!

    Comment by Dawn — January 12, 2007 @ 8:52 am |Edit This

    You’re too kind, Dawn.

    Thank you anyway.

    Hopefully, our bloggers will keep aspiring to keep it that way.

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  217. My only complaint about the site is a shocking lack of tasteful nudity.

    Comment by Big Fish — January 12, 2007 @ 10:13 am |Edit This

    A situation which is highly unlikely to improve, Big Fish! :wink:

    But keep casting that bait, you never know, some people have even seen the Loch Ness Monster!

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  218. There, you blow off some steam, here it is all rugby, so what I will do is chat rugby here and on the other site i will blow off some steam…

    But good post and this is a good site…love the place.

    good work people keep it up.

    Comment by Steyn The Blue bull — January 12, 2007 @ 10:14 am |Edit This

    Thanks, Steyn, and I have no doubt you’ll stay true to your word and we need Bulls supporters here. Shot.

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  219. What’s this all about?
    Sister Sunshine answering mails?
    You should start a regular thread doing this.
    :wink:
    Lekker slaap, Ras.
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  220. Yes well put Ras.

    1. Play the ball and not the man. Dont feel threatened or take it personally if someone posts something you disagree with. Its debate, open your mind and you’ll be amazed what you can achieve.

    2. Some of the best posts are occassionally the put downs. But lets keep them witty rather than childish, lavatorial and homophobic. And above all keep the Royal family out of it.

    3. I, like Donner, prescribe to the PissAnt school of ‘only post what you be prepared to say to someone’s face’. Now whilst it might be in my personal best interests to do it with the lot of you safely secured behind bars lets bear it in mind.

    And Bravo to that!

    Comment by StMichel — January 12, 2007 @ 10:21 am |Edit This

    ———————–

    StM,

    There’s nothing I can criticise in your post.

    Expecting us to give a fuck about your Royal Family is pushing it a bit but on the whole I agree with your post.

    Thank you.

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  221. Steyn you are a contaminant.

    You dare come here wearing your angel wings.

    I know you and I know what you are.

    Comment by Dawn — January 12, 2007 @ 10:25 am |Edit This

    Dawn,

    I know it’s tough however that’s precisely the kind of preconception I’m asking you to ignore.

    You know him from where? Certainly not from here. Here he gets a fresh start, please bear that in mind [and I am aware you’ve had some horrific treatment elsewhere- we’ll do our best to ensure it’s not repeated here.]

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  222. This is definitly the best rugby site in Cyberspace.

    The majority of posters are [:lol:] sometimes quite witty.

    Comment by Methos — January 12, 2007 @ 10:29 am |Edit This

    Methos,

    I don’t even need to consult with the BM’s, this corner of Mother Earth would never have been the same without your contributions over the last year.

    Thanks, Big Guy.

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  223. i would like to take this opportunity to apologise to anyone who feels aggrieved by my posts, this disclaimer excludes StM.

    Comment by cab — January 12, 2007 @ 10:51 am |Edit This

    Thanks, Cab.

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  224. And PS Steyn … if you were called a toothless snoek selling whore wouldn’t that go to your head too?

    Comment by Dawn — January 12, 2007 @ 11:11 am |Edit This

    It would go to mine, Dawn, and hopefully you’ll never find yourself being called that here.

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  225. Dawn I feel I must hold you to task.

    Comment by StMichel — January 12, 2007 @ 11:24 am |Edit This

    Geez, StM, talk about the wrong time!

    If one’s timing could be described as impeccably wrong, you nailed it with a big A.

    Not good, Great One.

    Also, take note – seriously StM, if you and Dawn are not intent on creating one of the ‘great feuds – [literary], then stop your bitching with each other. It’s not funny or entertaining.

    If you ARE intent on becoming one of the [great feuds] then you both need to lift your game. The fundamental requirement of a great feud is that it needs to be amusing for those outside AND there needs to be a hint you might end up married after 20 years of fighting.

    If you can’t do it, maintain it or sustain it, do it elsewhere please.

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  226. The 80’s WERE better than the 60’s!!!!!!

    Not just because I didn’t live through the 60’s!

    Cyndi Lauper-Sally’s Pidgeons
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCBMd2EX0xE

    Cyndi Lauper – True Colors
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PG_JCNXGHA

    Have to say that as we move on I’m beginning to think the 80’s were better than the 60’s.

    Can’t comment from experience on the 60’s but the 80’s were so rich in everything.

    Posty can keep his mixing DJ shyte, I’ll stick with the real vocalists.

    Where else would you find a Cyndi Lauper?

    Cyndi Lauper – I Drove All Night
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxW2hpYt6-g

    Cyndi Lauper – Time After Time
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzp0FedCz-c

    Cyndi Lauper – She Bop
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyq7u6Qt94M&mode=related&search=

    Maybe my favourite
    A genuinely RARE live concert from Cyndi
    Great Live Performance : Cyndi Lauper : Live in Paris 1987 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79oBGACACFM&mode=related&search=

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbB7Lj6c97g
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PG_JCNXGHA

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