Rassie hunting for Lions

August 9, 2007
Posted by Morné

Lions rugby administrators are furious at new Stormers coach Rassie Erasmus for apparently going behind their backs to secure the services of Brian Mujati.

Hennie Brandt and De Jongh Borchardt from the Beeld reports that Lions administrators have already contacted SARU’s Johan Prinsloo to stop attempts by Erasmus in securing the services of the fiery Lions tighthead prop – which they claim is done without the consent of the Lions Rugby Union.

“We have a problem with Erasmus talking to Mujati behind our backs,” Golden Lions Rugby Union president Jannie Ferreira said on Wednesday.

“We have already made contact with Johan Prinsloo (chief executive of the SA Rugby Union) because Erasmus is personally negotiating with Mujati.”

The Lions will do everything possible to retain the front ranker’s services, even though his agent feels there are loopholes that could enable him to get out of his contract with the union. The contract expires at the end of 2008.

The row comes shortly after reports that Cheetahs prop Jannie du Plessis has decided not to move to Cape Town but to join the Sharks in Durban.

It was a matter of blood being thicker than water when the Springbok signed for the Sharks. His brother, Springbok hooker Bismarck du Plessis, is already a member of the Sharks front row.

Jannie will move to the coast after this year’s Currie Cup season. The Sharks will need him because they are losing Springbok captain John Smit, who will start playing in France after the World Cup tournament.

This major loss, as well as a lack of depth among the prop forwards, motivated the Sharks to sign the other Du Plessis as well.

The union’s contract with Springbok prop BJ Botha, who can be employed at hooker in an emergency, expires at the end of next season.

There is great interest in Botha in the northern hemisphere, particularly among clubs in France, where good tighthead props are treated as if they were rock stars.

Hendrik Cronje reports from Bloemfontein that Springbok flank Juan Smith won’t be leaving the Cheetahs to join the Sharks.

Smith and Springbok prop CJ van der Linde, who has been considering offers from French clubs, will remain with the Free State side until at least the end of next year.

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78 Comments

  1. Quinnybok Quinnyshark says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 10:51 am Reply to this comment

    OO will be happy.

    Perhaps we should turn out attention to someone like Baywatch Grobbelaar, unsung hero.

  2. csb CSB says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 10:57 am Reply to this comment

    Good I was awaitng this thread.

    Rassie is under pressure to get good forwards.

    Everything needs to be done to keep our players now if we’re serious about wanting to win the super14 and currie cup next year.

  3. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 10:59 am Reply to this comment

    Rassie gaan homself baie ongewild maak op hierdie manier.
    Onthou jy is n klein vissie in groot dam Rassie…..
    Die groot visse sal jou rug breek.

  4. Quinnybok Quinnyshark says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:00 am Reply to this comment

    Isn’t this type of approach called “tapping-up” in roundball? A la Cashley Cole & Chelsea?

  5. Morné PissAnt says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:03 am Reply to this comment

    I just find it rich Lions bitching about this if you consider how they aquired the Rose brothers…

    It was not really open across the table negotiations now was it?

  6. Quinnybok Quinnyshark says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:05 am Reply to this comment

    True, PA. But I think the Lions are trying to forget all about the throny Rose brothers.

  7. castro Castro says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:07 am Reply to this comment

    Let Luke go.
    Half the problem solved at WP.

  8. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:09 am Reply to this comment

    PA
    Ridding WP of the Rose brothers
    turns out to be a very big favour
    by the Lions.

  9. Morné PissAnt says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:14 am Reply to this comment

    No question Boertjie.

  10. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:23 am Reply to this comment

    Nou moet transvaal net ook die Truidief koop en dan kan dit net beter gaan met die WP….

  11. dummykick dummykick says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:28 am Reply to this comment

    No need to go after baywatch, afterall Jaques Botes was the best player ever, according to the vast majority of Sharkies :D

  12. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:30 am Reply to this comment

    For sure I am happy- but the idea is not to have primadonnas at an exorbant price that believes they should be somewhere else.

    I still believe most Cheetahs that have outvalued themselves by becomming beTTer than the Outcak can aFFord will rather go to France.

    TraveLLing iside SA as a Pro is rather like changing deck chairs on the Titanic.

  13. robdylan© says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:34 am Reply to this comment

    repeat after me… 3 times each

    It’s a professional game

    It’s a professional game

    It’s a professional game

    Nothing personal…

    PS – you can make it proFFeSSional, if that suits you better :)

  14. robdylan© says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:35 am Reply to this comment

    TraveLLing iside SA as a Pro is rather like changing deck chairs on the Titanic.
    Comment by Oranje Orakel — August 9, 2007 @ 11:30 am |Edit This

    as long as the salary keeps moving up, dude. It’s a lot more expensive to live in Europe, as I am rapidly discovering.

  15. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:38 am Reply to this comment

    tahnks RoBBiedEE I will

    now repeat after me three times

    The proFFeSSional game in France is beTTer than in Deben!

    The proFFeSSional game in France is beTTer than in Deben!

    The proFFeSSional game in France is beTTer than in Deben!

    :grin:

    even a guy earning a living in Kent should be able to understand that?

  16. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:39 am Reply to this comment

    I have seen some of the salaries Rob- I think it applicable for the okes!

  17. robdylan© says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:41 am Reply to this comment

    you’re making an absolute statement about something that’s not that clear cut. Why is Jannie moving to the Sharks and not France? You already imply that he is only doing it for money, so why settle for a paltry R1200000 when he could get a lot more in €?

  18. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:43 am Reply to this comment

    The professional game in Upington is better than in Edeben….

  19. Morné PissAnt says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:45 am Reply to this comment

    Couldnt it be a case of losing his license if he does not practice perhaps?

    I know a doctor told me theyhave to attend so many seminars and lectures and shit and also do some work as a doctor to keep their license – can Jannie do that in France?

  20. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:48 am Reply to this comment

    Because Jannie & his boet want to play together- and Bismarck have a contract still.

    Its also close enough to the farm(s).

    Tswane is also close enough to the farms.

    Face it rob- be best quality players will not be attracted only to the $hark$ in future by virtue of money alone- as France is a better option.

    revisit your own reasons for resettling.

  21. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:50 am Reply to this comment

    BTW ROB

    Dr Du Plessis cannot practise as yet

    Still have to do a Zuma year- as as Bismarck hads said on TV- Medcine is a gOOde “qualification” to go farming

    :smile:

  22. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 11:56 am Reply to this comment

    Anyway- it seems that I have a castle to build!

    Cheers

  23. robdylan© says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 12:14 pm Reply to this comment

    Face it rob- be best quality players will not be attracted only to the $hark$ in future by virtue of money alone- as France is a better option.

    Agree – as long as money is the only thing they are after. Your aSSumption is that money is the only reason why people would play for the Sharks. It suits your agenda, but nevertheless is blatantly wrong and I think both of us know that.

    Still, it helps you entrench the persona you play here on RW, so we’ll let it pass.

  24. cab cab says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 12:52 pm Reply to this comment

    reckon Mujati is excellent and highly underrated. Its not just Heinke, this guy is very good. If transformation crap goes forward, will be invaluable.

    Rassie is a very shrewd operator, but Loffie must be pissed. dont want to lose this guy, lions are developning nicely.

  25. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 12:56 pm Reply to this comment

    Your aSSumption is that money is the only reason why people would play for the Sharks.
    =============
    What?
    You mean they also throw in a few
    bunches of bananas and six curry
    meal vouchers?

  26. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:00 pm Reply to this comment

    How can a province as big, old and rich as Natal only have produced Mark Andrews over the last 30 years?

  27. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:03 pm Reply to this comment

    Hulle het darem Honiball ook
    gehad. Nou wel van Bergville,
    maar dis ook Natal.

  28. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:05 pm Reply to this comment

    Stan
    Is jy tans in Duskantland
    of Anderkantland?

  29. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:05 pm Reply to this comment

    Bergville maak van hom n plaasseun, nie n Durbaniet nie.
    Selfde met Joubert.
    Afrikaanse plattelandse dorp.

  30. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:08 pm Reply to this comment

    Daar waar dit ver is broer…..
    tot my misnoeë….

  31. cab cab says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:08 pm Reply to this comment

    you would have to say though, that its a bit of a crime that the sharks did not win the S14 last year. hell it was done and dusted.

  32. robdylan© says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:10 pm Reply to this comment

    Stan – do we really need to attack your statement about all the Bulls okes being homegrown AGAIN? Jeepers, it’s like you guys just can’t tune to another channel.

  33. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:14 pm Reply to this comment

    Die verskil is dat julle koop.
    In ons geval is dit dat die spelers smeek ons om vir ons te kom speel!

  34. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:16 pm Reply to this comment

    Eish!
    Mbeki het nog net een keer in
    sy lewe die guts gehad om ‘n
    minister te fire –
    en toe fire hy die verkeerde een!

  35. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:18 pm Reply to this comment

    Attack is not a word to by used by Natal supporters.
    Attack is the same as trophy, cup, winning etc….
    You should use words like contest, reply, try to compete, 79 minutes etc……oh, and choke.

  36. robdylan© says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:19 pm Reply to this comment

    what happened, Boertjie?

  37. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:20 pm Reply to this comment

    Ek was ook eenkeer aangesê om iemand te “Fire”
    Ek het eers opgehou toe die magasyn leeg was.
    Nou doen hulle dit maar self…..

  38. robdylan© says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:21 pm Reply to this comment

    Ok – found it

    “The dismissal took effect immediately yesterday and followed leaks to the media that Madlala-Routledge had undertaken an unauthorised trip to Spain, with her son and a consultant, at a cost of R160 000.”

    Talk about double standards.

    Pass the bananas?

  39. redj redj says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:25 pm Reply to this comment

    Comment by Stan — August 9, 2007 @ 1:20 pm

    Moet erken as ou so staan en kyk na die resultaat nie so lekker nie….

  40. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:25 pm Reply to this comment

    No, the money is just an excuse Gert.They all do it and he is the biggest culprit of all the snoobab.
    He fired her because she declared the hospital as an emergency and disagree with him on the Aids issue.

  41. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:26 pm Reply to this comment

    Various reasons for her dismissal have circulated.

    These included an unannounced visit she made to Mount Frere hospital, which she declared to be in a state of “national emergency”

    There had also been a R160 000 trip to Spain to attend an Aids conference – which Mbeki apparently withdrew his permission for at the last minute.

    Madlala-Routledge was also apparently involved in ongoing clashes with health minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang over government’s Aids policy.

  42. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:27 pm Reply to this comment

    Hoe bedoel jy nou Redj?

  43. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:31 pm Reply to this comment

    Strange how Mbeki is being loyal
    to the biggest embarrasment ever
    to have served in a SA cabinet –
    and there were and are plenty.

    En Eendrag koshuis op Stalinbosch
    het afgebrand.
    :shock:

  44. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:32 pm Reply to this comment

    Het die snoobab weer vuur gemaak in die kamers of n bok gebraai?

  45. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:33 pm Reply to this comment

    Kan sien dis n vakansie dag daar in die nuwe SA…
    Niemand by die werk nie…

  46. redj redj says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:34 pm Reply to this comment

    You are missing the biggest point of all, she’s a Zulu.

  47. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:34 pm Reply to this comment

    Let’s see if Gigaba gets away
    with all his corruption that
    was recently exposed.
    Suppose it will depend on his
    struggle credentials.

    This looks like a set-up.

  48. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:34 pm Reply to this comment

    Dis waar Redj, ek nie geweet sy is n Makhatini nie.

  49. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:36 pm Reply to this comment

    Maar hy sou haar in elkgeval gepos het al was sy n Xhosa.
    Dis hul kultuur. Die vrou is onderdanig en sy het hom teegegaan.

  50. il postino il postino says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:36 pm Reply to this comment

    Would be sorry to lose Mujati, but on the other hand how would the rest of us feel if our prospetive employers had to approach our current employers first if they wanted to offer us a job?

  51. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:42 pm Reply to this comment

    Praat van kultuur:

    “South Africa is full of wonders that defy description. Take the political career of Jacob Zuma. The man is the original boomerang with more lives than a cat. Only Mr Zuma could come out of a rape trial with more supporters than ever, a hit song and a new lease on life.”

    (Lynn Dike, News24)

  52. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 1:59 pm Reply to this comment

    Waar is Gert nou?

  53. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 2:03 pm Reply to this comment

    Ek dink Gert kuier op die Sardiens
    se webwerf.
    Kry al sy inspirasie vir die lewe
    daar.

  54. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 2:09 pm Reply to this comment

    hehehehe @ ploegskAAr

    nEEf gert is mar te bly hy hoef nie patties in Bloem se wimpy- sOOs ek te flip nie

    Hy spandeer sy 80 sekondes beter!

    :smile:

  55. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 2:22 pm Reply to this comment

    80 sekondes?
    Vat dit hom só lank om een
    vleiskoekie om te draai?
    Geen wonder hy ondersteun daai
    span nie.
    Wanneer laas het hulle die CB
    gewen – is mos al tien jaar?

  56. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 2:34 pm Reply to this comment

    80 sekondes?
    Dis al wat die Bulle nodig gehad het!!!
    O yeah…

  57. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 2:34 pm Reply to this comment

    Oukei – ek sien nou waar kom die
    80 sekondes vandaan.
    Heheheh.
    Heheheh.
    Heheheh.
    Hoe meer ek daaraan dink, hoe
    snaakser word dit.
    Heheheh.

  58. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 2:37 pm Reply to this comment

    Bwahahahahahahaaaaa!
    80 sekondes :lol:

  59. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 2:39 pm Reply to this comment

    Trek ekself amper n holspier hier van lekker lag….

  60. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 2:47 pm Reply to this comment

    #

    Trek ekself amper n holspier hier van lekker lag….
    Comment by Stan — August 9, 2007 @ 2:39 pm

    Duitsland is darem naby Stan

  61. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 2:52 pm Reply to this comment

    Orakelese?
    Vertaal asseblief.

  62. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 3:03 pm Reply to this comment

    Die spesialis wat Andre pretOors gesien het is in Duitsland- om te help met Stan se getrekte holspier!

  63. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 3:05 pm Reply to this comment

    Ag OO – jy is my al weer een vOOr.

    As daai dokter goed is op
    poepholle is daar baie wat
    ek vir hom kan aanstuur.
    Kan dalk kommissie verdien
    en vroeg aftree.

  64. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 3:21 pm Reply to this comment

    Comment by Boertjie — August 9, 2007 @ 3:05 pm

    Die Oranje Debakel trek al in volgende week Boertjie!

  65. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 3:24 pm Reply to this comment

    hehehe wonner watse tipe doktor/dokter spesialiseer op holspiere!

  66. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 3:25 pm Reply to this comment

    Dr Gay Kebble????

  67. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 3:33 pm Reply to this comment

    :lol: Stan
    =========

    hehehe wonner watse tipe doktor/dokter spesialiseer op holspiere!
    =========
    Miskien kan hy #46 se hol groot genoeg
    rek dat hy in hom kan inval.
    Kwota Komphela s’n ook.
    En Stofpoeper Stofile.
    Eish, daar is baie!

    Fkt – ek het ‘n hoes aan my.
    Klink soos ‘n leë konka wat
    in ‘n mynskag af val.
    Whisky en heuning help darem.

  68. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 3:34 pm Reply to this comment

    Can be Dr Gay Whateveh Stan- that one of yours is a bit close to real people!

  69. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 3:35 pm Reply to this comment

    Gou ‘n bosduif gaan skiet
    vir aandete.
    Later.

  70. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 3:39 pm Reply to this comment

    hehehe Ploegskaar oppie hoes

    cheers

  71. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 3:47 pm Reply to this comment

    Net solank jy nie n Pou skiet nie Boertjie!

  72. Stan says:
    August 9th, 2007 at 3:50 pm Reply to this comment

    Comment by Oranje Orakel — August 9, 2007 @ 3:34 pm

    Close but it is true….

  73. Nolan Bricknell Nolan Bricknell says:
    August 10th, 2007 at 9:21 am Reply to this comment

    The sharks coaching setup is amongst the best in the world – One of the reasons youngsters come to the coast – Plumbtree with a bunch of greenhorns isnt doing a shabby job in the currie cup

  74. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    August 10th, 2007 at 11:22 am Reply to this comment

    Jannie will move to the coast after this year’s Currie Cup season. The Sharks will need him because they are losing Springbok captain John Smit, who will start playing in France after the World Cup tournament.

    Anyone else think this makes no sense whatsoever?

    Baywatch woukld be better off with the Sharks or WP at this stage because at least there someone will see he’s the best openside flank in the country by a proverbial country mile

  75. Oranje Orakel - BlackbeRRy is so 2011 Oranje Orakel says:
    August 10th, 2007 at 11:28 am Reply to this comment

    Lions backthree , Alberts, Joubert & Baywatch is the best in the CC DavidS

  76. Unsubscribe Dive Pass says:
    August 10th, 2007 at 11:40 am Reply to this comment

    …and its funny how the majority of the players that come to Durban to play rugby spend the rest of their lives here……

  77. dummykick dummykick says:
    August 10th, 2007 at 11:48 am Reply to this comment

    sheesh, lets hope whoever goes down to Durban doesn’t take a needle with him, he might find it very difficult to move around without popping a couple of big heads by accident, mostly in the stands…

  78. Unsubscribe Dive Pass says:
    August 10th, 2007 at 11:51 am Reply to this comment

    I didn’t know you were in Durban dummykick…we will try to be careful with your head