Where there’s smoke, there’s fire – and there’s plenty smoke in the Cape. Like Jake White coaching the Stormers and Rassie moving – guess where?
White is longing after a coaching job. He has done some work with Saracens and acted as a consultant elsewhere, but would rather coach where he can win cups, STEPHEN NELL reports in Die Burger.
Apparently the Lions are interested in his services, but White says he would like to remain close to the Mountain.
Rumours are abound that WP may be interested in White as coach for the Stormers.
White says he has not been approached, and that Erasmus has a long term contract with the union.
In walks one Cheeky Watson and adds to the rumour that the Eastern Cape are wooing Erasmus.
“We would like someone like Rassie to coach the team that plays the British Lions on 16 June.
“For the selection of the team we are looking for people with roots in the Eastern Cape. Rassie is a product from this region.
“We’ve always said we want the best coaches. It is easier for someone who was born here and understands the politics of the region. We have 120 clubs, and only 8 are white.”
White stands to lose his reputation as coach if he takes on the struggling Stormers, but this does not worry him.
“I like winning. Maybe I can win a S14 or a Currie Cup. I was twice honoured as the IRB’s coach of the year (2004 and 2007). One bad season will not make you a bad coach.”
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 am
The ultimate media propagande to get rid of Luke in the Stormers. Tell him Jake is going to coach them.
It is still amazing that a two times Coach of the Year is struggling to find a team to coach.
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 am
This site is slow during the day
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:38 am
The incompetent Mob at WP Rugby will NEVER allow Jake to coach here! They are so entrenched in their racist ways that the next coach will probably be Chester!
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:38 am
Reply to chch @ 11:13 am:
And it sometimes just
freezes altogether.
Now there’s also a rumour that
Heyneke would like to coach in
the Cape.
No.46 will move to Daddy’s team
anyway.
Can’t wait to see his back.
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:40 am
Reply to Bekke @ 11:38 am:
You may have a point there.
There’s already a few from
the Cape Flats that wants
Jean replaced by Morgan Newman.
Go figure.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Reply to Deon @ 11:01 am:
Who said he is struggling.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
First off, why is there talk of Rassie leaving?
He is no worse than any coach the WP had in the last 8 years.
Changing the coach will not change the situation in WP Rugby.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Reply to chch @ 11:13 am:
Church, that you dude?
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
“He has done some work with Saracens and acted as a consultant elsewhere, but would rather coach where he can win cups”
so WTF is he wooing the Stormers for?
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Reply to Minora @ 1:35 pm:
Skerp!
Ek dink dis maar net omdat hy
daarvan hou om in die beskawing
te woon.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Reply to Minora @ 1:35 pm:
lol
he might do ok at the stormers, got to be a decent budget, but the wrong players.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Reply to cab @ 1:49 pm:
I would actually like him to coach the Stormers so that there can be no excuse when the Bulls take them apart again!!
Honestly, I never had much faith in Rassie neither as a player nor as a coach. Too much hot wind and not enough focus.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Reply to Minora @ 1:58 pm:
Rassie’s paranoia keeps shining
through, and he’s become very
innovative in the way he interprets
the match stats to favour his team.
He’s just working on a way to change
the scoreboard stats to reflect wins.
But I haven’t given up all hope: They
may even surprise vs the Waratahs.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Reply to Minora @ 1:58 pm:
Reply to Boertjie @ 2:14 pm:
It is very easy to come up with a game plan on paper.
It is kak difficult to implement it.
Rassie has a brilliant rugby brain, I have experienced it first hand.
He lacks normal man management skills imo just from sitting and listening to him and how he addresses the media.
The type of thing like a journo would ask him about the scrum and how this and that is weak.
Rassie will not address those issues head on, he either refers to stats or he says something like – ‘okay that is your opinion, I don’t agree with it.’
He needs a mentor, Rassie can compliment any coaching team, more than some assistant coaches I know – but I reckon he needs to be kept in check (not like a teacher type authority though).
I honestly think he lacks experience in coaching. That only comes with time.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Reply to Morné @ 2:23 pm:
He needs a mentor.
======
That sums it up perfectly.
One that teaches him that
a critical question is not
necessarily a personal attack.
In Carel Dup, Dawie Snyman, Alan
Zondagh etc. he is surrounded by
a lot of good rugby brains to
tap into.
But he won’t.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 2:29 pm:
But he wont
=========
And that is the experience part I refer to Oom Boer.
Great coaches surround themselves with great minds – Rassie at this stage has a great mind, but he is not a great coach.
It pisses me off to see a Hempies du Toit at the Varsity Cup Final thinking – hell just how badly does Rassie need a guy like him to help him…
But he does not.
Hence, not a great coach.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Rassie have lost his way a little this year. I think he completely misinterpreted how to play under the ELVs.
What exactly is the game-plan at the Stormers?
Having as little possession as possible?
Pass and run without aim?
Play mostly in your own half?
Let the other team dictate the flow of the game?
The only game so far the Stormers played with an effective plan was against the Bulls.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Reply to Morné @ 2:32 pm:
There’s another snippet involving
Hempies.
Apparently Pablo likes him and they
chat. And Hempies told him:
“Bly weg van die TV af – jy maak jou
naam gat as jy praat.”
Let’s see if he listens.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Reply to fyndraai @ 2:32 pm:
I think De Waal was the fly in the
ointment in their last loss – could
not kick for position.
Rassie is on record that it was the
worst a team coached by him has
ever performed.
Can they turn it around? Lets wait
and see. Tahs are a very tough nut.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 2:35 pm:
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 2:39 pm:
Thank goodness I missed that game – only saw the last 10 minutes.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 2:35 pm:
Bok rugby will be fine this year, dont worry.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Reply to Morné @ 2:32 pm:
What then in you okes’ opinion makes someone like Fergie (Man Utd) such a brilliant coach sustained over such a long period? Yes Man U has megabucks and can buy any player they want but still methinks it takes a special sort of coach / leader to keep winning major trophies year in and year out? I myself am a huge Liverpool supporter but since the mid eighties they just cannot get over that final hurdle and plays second fiddle to Man U pschychologically. Also with Chelsea – all the money in the world cannot buy coach and / or player commitment?
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 2:35 pm:
btw; yesterday the local radio called me for an interview and my german is not the best
ek en pablo, eish!!
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Reply to Minora @ 3:04 pm:
good question – I guess any coach from any sport would well to take notes from Fergie.
maybe it is the way he is always straight with everyone around him, you know where you stand.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Reply to Morné @ 3:02 pm:
Eish – the game has become so
tactical and technical, with
such a lot going into analysis
etc.
In die dae van Ryk van Schoor en
Joggie Jansen het hulle sommer
net die Lem se filosofie gevolg.
Ek het ook heelwat oor die ou dae se
toere gelees, maar kan nie onthou
dat ek ooit van spesiale taktiek
en dinge gelees het nie.
There was a definite beauty to the
amateur days.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 3:19 pm:
Chum Ochse playing on with concussion
in a Test, and scoring a try he had to
be told about afterwards.
Jannie Engelbrecht scoring x2 with a
broken collar bone vs Noord-Transvaal
- because Doug Hopwood did not give
him permission to retire.
Frans Erasmus having to retire to
the goal line with a penalty, but
did not.
“Ai, Mr Ref – ek is nou te moeg om
terug te loop. Ek belowe jou ek sal
net hier op een plek doodstil staan.”
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Reply to Minora @ 3:04 pm:
Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 3:11 pm:
Minora and JT
There is a “bible” book for all coaches aspiring to be a the top for years on end.
Research was done by writer on sporting teams outperforming their rivals over many many seasons – winning steaks if you like.
What is their “secret” ???
What – make possible – the feats of the following teams ???
University of Connecticut women’s basketball team winning 70 games on the trot.
De La Salle High School in Concord California winning every single football game for over 12 years
Australian Cricket team for over a decade the number 1 team.
These are not random happenings
these are not seasonal flukes
these are the result of deliberate – systems – providing constant success results.
The book by Rosabeth Moss Kanter is simply called Confidence.
Believe me – there is soooo much more than simply confidence in the book – confidence might be describes as the tip of the Ice-Berg.
Enjoy – I did and still do – going back over and over to the book.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
winning steaks – he he he
= winning streaks
Confidence by Rosabeth Moss Kanter
How winning streaks and losing streaks begin and end.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Turning back to last nights
RW debate on centres
- toe Brand gelê en slaap het -
the poll on SuperSport says:
Who will be your outside centre
vs the British Lions?
Adi Jacobs 24%
Jaque Fourie 68%
Francois Steyn 8%
586 votes
I’m with the majority here.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 3:52 pm:
He he he – ek het dit vinnig gescan vanoggend – lyk of julle lekker gesels het
Ek stem – kan net Fourie wees!!!
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Eish, hier gaan niks aan in
die rugbywêreld nie.
As iemand nou net vir Puke of
sy pa wil bliksem . . .
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Reply to Morné @ 1:26 pm:
Yes it is me
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Howzit silence ppl.
Tomorrow is NCD so DavidS is of the view that we should “celebrate a bit”
With a sticky on the issue
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
In any case
That would give us all a chance to talk abot cab behind his back seeing as whenever he sees something female on the site he tends to have an “accident in his pants” or he has to hare it for the bathroom because certain feelings “overcome” him
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:40 pm
This morning in Jozi there were some easy on the eye ladies handing out NCD election flyers on Grayston
DavidS will DEFINITELY vote for NCD
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Reply to DavidS @ 7:40 pm:
Ja jou jagse ou man.
Waar is almal?
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 pm
What happened to Brannasnacht?
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Reply to DavidS @ 7:40 pm:
Vote with your head not your kop!
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Reply to Minora @ 8:42 pm:
Discontinued because everybody
became slapgat.
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Reply to Minora @ 8:43 pm:
Words of zBilly Connely
Don’t vote
It just encourages the batsards
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 8:32 pm:
Nee die fok weet alleen waar is almal. Mens so DINK op ‘n Donderdag aand sal almal ten minste try chat, maar ek reken daai mier is in sy moer
DEon slaap met se hol in sy neus
Ag en ek weet nie van lamal anders nie.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 8:46 pm:
I am going camping with my 3 sons this weekend – no TV, maybe radio, no cellphone, no 3G therefor no laptop. I sure as hell hope the Bulls can do it without me!
As much as it hurts me to say this – FdP better pull finger because at this stage Roaring Cockup is my pick for Bok 9.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Reply to Minora @ 9:18 pm:
You sound like a very wise father -
even giving up your rugby!
Reply to DavidS @ 9:14 pm:
Hy kan laaaaankal nie meer sy
neus by sy hol kry nie –
pens innie pad.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Minora
Doing same thing with wife and three GIRLS from 22 April to 28 April
Yeah
Fuggit with this voting shit.
We’re going to Drakensberg while everyone stands in stupid queues to vote for nothing…
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Reply to DavidS @ 9:52 pm:
Dan moet jy nooit weer moun nie, Boet.
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 10:01 pm:
Hoekom nie
Ek moan nie oor beleid nie
Ek moan oor die geheel van die stelsel
Dit dien geen doel nie.
Die huis is verkeerd gebou.
Al waaroor hulle stem is watter kleur moet ons die ding verf
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Hos julle moffies
DavidS – ek travel al die pad af London toe om te gaan vote!!!! Skaam jou.
Ek is hier vir Brannasnacht – of te wel Biernacht in my geval.
Cheers
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Reply to DavidS @ 9:52 pm:
What ages are your girls? My boys are 6, 9 and 11. No mercy for the weak this weekend – Pa sal moet Survivorman personified wees!!
Reply to Boertjie @ 10:01 pm:
Ja Boer, ek voel ook so. Maar ek het empatie vir Dave – sedert 1994 stem ‘n ou maar watter verskil maak dit?
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Reply to DavidS @ 10:15 pm:
As almal wat soos jy redeneer en
anti-ANC is nie stem nie, gaan
niks ooit verander nie.
Apathetic Assholes.
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Reply to The Brand @ 3:41 pm:
ahh so eating steaks! I’ll get my team on the new diet ASAP!
Thanks Brand
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Reply to Minora @ 10:18 pm:
Miskien het ons in die Wes-Kaap
meer rede om te stem: Ons kan
REGTIG ‘n verskil maak en die
provinsie uit die Soustreinryers
se greep verwyder.
Ek het ‘n idee dit kan ook in Gauteng
gebeur, al is dit met alliansies.
Soos ek die ding sien, kom die tyd al
hoe nader dat GEEN regering meer die
land sal kan regruk nie.
Wil ons dit hê?
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 pm
By die Rugby club waar ek gespeel het het almal oor die Gowerment gemoan – Dis toe stem dag – uit 90 ouens het 2 gestem Ek en nog ‘n ou – almal se – ja dit help nie dat ons stem nie- dit gaan minder as fokkol help as jy nie stem nie.
Dis toe ook die jaar wat die DA die kaap net net gewen het en moes koalisie met ander mese – as daar net 10% meer mense gestem het het DA hom gewalk.
Maak die effort – gaan stem – dan kan jy ten minste saam moan.
Cheers
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Reply to Methos @ 10:27 pm:
hoor hoor!
How is your rugby going? When your next game?
We play on Sunday away! If we win we are in the final with 2 games to spare.
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Hi JT
Rugby is good – or let me say my rugby is good – the club is going kak – lost 60 – 7 on Sat – but I played very well. Made our only try – ran well with ball etc. tAckled very well and was very aggresive at ruck time – counter rucked well. Also got the most punches in – anbout 12
not bad for a guy who was out for 8 weeks who played only 50 minutes. Split their prop eye open. Seer gut jawohl
Cheers
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Reply to Methos @ 10:37 pm:
So at least you enjoyed it! What went worng? Backs f-ed up everything again?
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Reply to Methos @ 10:37 pm:
Eish – dis seker nie lekker om vir
‘n kak ongemotiveerde klub te speel
nie.
Kan jy van klub verander?
Wil jy?
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 10:41 pm:
he should come to Innsbruck – but nooooo mud island
PS: Methos, check out our website, jobs on offer at our sponsor.
http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at/index.php?id=105&L=1
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Backs fooked up royally – tackle bags could have done better – farwards weren’t blameless – ball got turned over out of my hands after a run 3 times – no one to clean – I’m not blameless – after 20 minutes I was foking tired but I tried. We got 3 tightheads but can do jack shit.
Cheers
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 10:42 pm:
Ja, nog ‘n Donnerse Dom Boer.
Het jy vir hom gesê die bier
by jou klub is gratis?
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:53 pm
JT
Send me a mail – you have my email ? Just spoke to Wife and she says she wouldn’t mind it.
Cheers
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Reply to Methos @ 10:53 pm:
mail sent! I need my personal biltong maker here in IBK
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Cool
I’ll have a look in the morning – very busy at moment – playing poker online on 4 tables. Ask them if they need a poker guy
Cheers
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 am
Reply to cab @ 1:49 pm:
Not once Titus has taking his cut… hence De Waal, Percy, AJ, Wylie Human…
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 am
Reply to Methos @ 10:44 pm:
You playing for the Stormers?
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 am
Reply to Minora @ 9:18 pm:
Finally someone that has actually watched the S14 the past 3 seasons…