Bok team announced

June 23, 2009
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The Bok team for the second test has been announced.

Schalk Burger has been given the number 6 jersey with Brüssow moving to the bench.

In another surprise move Ricky January has been axed from the 22-man squad completely, with Chiliboy Ralepele selected on the bench.

Adi Jacobs retains his spot ahead of Jaque Fourie who is on the bench for successive weekends.

The axing of January also means that De Villiers went for a 7/2 split on the bench.

Bok Team:

15 Frans Steyn, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Adi Jacobs, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Ruan Pienaar, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Juan Smith, 6 Schalk Burger, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 John Smit (c), 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Chilliboy Ralepelle, 17 Deon Carstens, 18 Andries Bekker, 19 Danie Rossouw, 20 Heinrich Brussow, 21 Jaque Fourie, 22 Morne Steyn.

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72 Comments

  1. avatar Morné says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    There you have it.

  2. avatar Morné says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Hey Bryce – one of your things happened you mentioned on the other thread!

    January is gone!

  3. avatar Morné says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Reply to Morné @ 1:58 pm:

    I want nothing but compliments from you now for the Bok coach! :)

  4. avatar Morné says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Okay I am off for the day.

    Cheers.

  5. avatar PietPloos says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    So this time – they go withou a #9 – back up…

  6. avatar wiLLem "I am stiLL woRRied" Orakelstein says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Great run on team that- would have preFFered the RWC wiNNing 13 to play 13- but hey Adi was part of the first 50 minutes- when there were not much baLL for PhiLLips to swing.

    Dont mind BruSSow- being on the bench

    stiLL dont understand the bench though

    GueSS if FdP gets injured Ruan to play 9 with Morne Steyn @ 10.

    Have no problem there

    Bench is just light to cover problems to the wings.

    BUT HEY

    Lets hOPE!

    :weed:

  7. avatar wiLLem "I am stiLL woRRied" Orakelstein says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Reply to Morné @ 2:02 pm:

    :lol:

  8. avatar middles says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Hell of a strong XV! Having Bekker and Rossouw and bit unnecessary would rather have gone for Kankowski but otherwise no complaints. (or swop starting with Rossouw instead of Spies, Spies in the last 30 could be good).

    Communication between Adi and JDV should be better this week. If not just sub sooner rather than later.

  9. avatar welshbok says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Reply to PietPloos @ 2:05 pm:

    Pienaar is there for cover on 9.

    Between Schalk and Brussouw, they can protect Pienaar.

    Carstens? eish…., Hopefully he won’t be needed.

    I can live with this, would have been nice with Wynand Olivier on bench, and Mossie starting.

    Politics will always be the “klippie in die skoen”

  10. avatar middles says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Reply to wiLLem “I am stiLL woRRied? Orakelstein @ 2:06 pm:

    Both JDV and JF can play wing (even Spies and Bekker :wink: )

  11. avatar middles says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Reply to welshbok @ 2:10 pm:

    “Politics will always be the “klippie in die skoen?

    I know the colour of your mechanic! :twisted:

  12. avatar PietPloos says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Reply to middles @ 2:15 pm:

    Myne is n donker perd …moet reeds die kar terug vat, nadat hy weer die helfte van die goed nie gedoen het nie…

  13. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Reply to PietPloos @ 2:05 pm:

    Ruan is back-up enough!

  14. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    ja, not what i would’ve done, but its a good team.

  15. avatar welshbok says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Reply to PietPloos @ 2:17 pm:

    gedoen het of kon doen nie?

  16. avatar PietPloos says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    So :snor: calls us racists for saying Swanger Meerkat is :poop: , but then HE drops him…

    :jester:

  17. avatar Bekke says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Pietploos, ek dink Meerkat moet gaan kraam die naweek?
    I.t.v. komplimente: OK, van al die :poop: coaches, is Helium darem nie die heel :poop: ste nie (dis Stroolie!)

  18. avatar welshbok says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Reply to Bekke @ 2:47 pm:

    Harry die strandloper was ook darm super kak gewees!

  19. avatar middles says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Reply to cab @ 2:21 pm:

    What would you have done different? besides swop Adi and Fourie.

  20. avatar welshbok says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Piet is verseker beter as Strauli en Viljoen itv results, maar hy het darm ook ‘n fantastiese span ge-erf van Jake wat hom die ideale voorsprong gegee het!

  21. avatar middles says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Reply to welshbok @ 2:57 pm:

    We must however give him credit as a coach for sticking to that team he inherited!

    Imagine having Earl Rose and Luke Watson and Schalk Brits in the team instead.

  22. avatar welshbok says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Reply to middles @ 3:02 pm:

    Yip,

    Give him that, he didn’t change things much.

  23. avatar middles says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    And by moving Smit to tighthead he has ensured another 2 or 3 years of him being our captain which is great. If he scrums well he can go from being a very good hooker to a great prop because he contributes all over the park.

  24. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Reply to middles @ 2:55 pm:
    keep brussouw, swap burger for spies and let burger burn it up for 50mins where he’ll be buggered from lack of match sharpness and then bring on spies in last 30 when more open.

    replace JdV with WO, Roberts is making everyone in that inside channel his biatch and getting over the adv line everytime, Burger will help but Olivier will also tackle better than JdV and is a loftus hometown boy just come off S14 success, horses for courses.

    finally and this is more leftfield, drop Becker for Deysel to use as impact for Juan in last 20min with Rossouw covering lock.

  25. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Is the Meerkat injured,
    or has :snor: become a
    racist?

    Just shows how totally
    unnecessary his racial
    outburst was.

    Bekker, Brussow, Rossouw
    on the bench seems a bit
    of overkill.

    Carstens must have shares
    in the :snor: family business.

  26. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    1. Beast 2. Bismarck 3. Smit 4. Bakkies 5. Matfield 6. Brussow 7. Juan 8. Burger 9. FdP 10. Pienaar 11. Habana 12. WO 13. JF 14. JP 15. Steyn.

    Replacements: 16. Guthro 17. Kruger 18. Rossouw 19. Deysel 20. Spies 21. Jdv 22. Jacobs

    Daai span sal die leeus doer oor die palle skop.

  27. avatar wiLLem "I am stiLL woRRied" Orakelstein says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    So lets do the grouphug thing and

    :applause:

    :pdv:

    for the foLLowing that was highlightedReply to Bekke @ 2:47 pm:

    Reply to welshbok @ 2:57 pm:

    Reply to middles @ 3:02 pm:

    Reply to welshbok @ 3:07 pm:

    Reply to middles @ 3:09 pm:

    :thumbup:

    :job:

    :wave:

    And now that is done!

    He can stiLL explain Cartsens, Rose to me though!

    :twisted:

  28. avatar middles says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Reply to cab @ 3:16 pm:

    great thinking about the loosies. Obviously Deysel not in the squad so can’t really consider it an option currently but i agree that Spies is looking more and more in the impact mould.

    I do think that even WO will struggle keeping the defensive line strong with Pienaar on his inside and Adi outside. WO does tackle strongly but he had JP Nel and Steyn so he didn’t have to worry about covering other channels.

  29. avatar wiLLem "I am stiLL woRRied" Orakelstein says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Reply to middles @ 2:12 pm:

    hehehe

  30. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Reply to cab @ 3:23 pm:

    I like.
    Personally I hope they play
    towards their strenghts more:

    Spies – can be devastating with
    the right ball in the right move
    (swing scrum, pickup at 8, blindside
    etc.)

    Habana – They simply must create
    space and ball for him and JPP.

    Mauls – Very effective, must have more.

    Fourie du P – Don’t worry – he
    creates his own chances.

  31. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Reply to middles @ 3:28 pm:
    Yes maybe he will struggle, but WO is a bit young and gung-ho and fris, he will at least try and knock that big welsh taff back in the tackle, and thats what someone needs to really hit him hard early, fair but really hard, just to let him know he cant saunter around their all day. He’s taking liberties with Jean.

  32. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Reply to wiLLem “I am stiLL woRRied? Orakelstein @ 3:27 pm:

    “He can stiLL explain Cartsens, Rose to me though!”

    I thought here was no need for Rose to be explained as he is not playing for the Boks :twisted: :lol:

  33. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 3:31 pm:
    he can be but we never actually got the sort of ball retension where we can use him, the whole thing was such madness for the first 50mins that even brussouw could not set himself, this is where afkop excels, somme let him loose ek se…

  34. avatar middles says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Reply to cab @ 3:23 pm:

    Besides the centres, PDV is not far off.

  35. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    Reply to cab @ 3:32 pm:

    I think Jean is the best
    organiser of defence –
    apart from being the best
    centre of the lot.

    Hence his continued inclusion.

    I don’t think it has to do with
    favouritism etc.

  36. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Reply to middles @ 3:34 pm:
    nope its a good side, i’m happy with PdV.

    the subsitutions were a bit foolish but his reasoning was sound, it was a period that it looked the lions were gaining ascedency, i think tho he should have trusted his onfield players for another 5 mins or so.

    besides i think his zen koans are wonderful thought-puzzlers.

  37. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Reply to cab @ 3:34 pm:

    Points to work on then -
    exploit your own advantages
    to the fullest.

    We had some good posession -
    4 lineouts and 4 scrums won -
    but we kicked every single
    ball.

  38. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 3:36 pm:
    i think jean is exceptional, but not against this sort of centre, too much of a thinker, this roberts just runs straight, if the lions get that sort of ascendancy in this all-important channel again, i reckon they will take some of the 4 chances spilled over the line last week, and will win fairly easily.

  39. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 3:39 pm:
    in fact imo this is exactly where we need your old hero, someone like mannetjies roux who stops this guy with some big hits.

    but you might be right, Jean is very good centre allround.

  40. avatar PietPloos says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Reply to cab @ 3:41 pm:

    Die swakpunt is verlede Saterdag was nie JdV nie.
    BoD en Roberts was ook nie so great nie…

    Adi “revolving door” Jacobs was super :poop:

  41. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Reply to cab @ 3:43 pm:

    I don’t think he will enjoy running it Schalk too much either, might just dampen his spirits some what. I am a little concerned though that Schalk might just clothesline him and earn a card in the process.

  42. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Reply to PietPloos @ 3:47 pm:
    lol, neewat dus nie net jacobs nie, geen schalk of butch, en pienaar en jean vlieg nie in nie. daai twee senters het omtrent 9 of 10 linebreaks gemaak, daai is nie ontvaarbaar in die moderne game.

  43. avatar PietPloos says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Die RUGGRAAD van die huidige BokGroep en die genuine besluitnemers is:

    John S
    Victor
    Schalk B & Juan S
    FdP en Percy!!

  44. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 3:48 pm:
    lol, and i can just see that, the longer schalk is off and the higher the game pressure the more likely he will be to do exactly that…haha. he just wants moer anything plat that moves old schalk.

  45. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    :pdv:

    :mrgreen:

  46. avatar PietPloos says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Reply to cab @ 3:49 pm:

    Ek het die game nou al meer as een keer gekyk – en n p[aar keer in slow motion :lol:

    Die senters is elke keer soos slap :poop: by Adi verby…

  47. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Reply to cab @ 3:51 pm:

    Strange, I have visual recollections
    of all the forwards driving guys
    back in the tackle.

    None of the Afkophoender.

    I do have recollections of guys
    slipping his tackles and of him
    being the 2nd or 3rd tackler.

    Maybe it’s just my prejudice –
    I remember what I want to?

  48. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Reply to PietPloos @ 3:55 pm:
    dalk moet ek ook bietjie in slow motion weercheck, te veel :beer: miskien, maar hel Bod is Adi se man en Roberts is jean se man, en al wat ek sien is roberts wat deur die hele spulle lekker straight draf.

  49. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Reply to PietPloos @ 3:47 pm:

    Do you know that Adi had a missed tackle count of 2 and Mossie 3?

  50. avatar cab says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 3:59 pm:
    no ways afkop somme runs in and hits them with everything.
    the only worry as ollie says is he dont go head-hunting again.
    used to be part of white’s game with the umbrella defense, force them all in to the ok corale where schalla pounces, thats why DC never excels v bos when schalla on, he is bang of the big burger sandwich, i am sure.

  51. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 4:02 pm:

    There is some continuos
    criticism – mainly from the
    Cape Flats Kiwi-supporters favouring
    Adi – that Mossie is a weak defender
    on his inside shoulder.

  52. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 4:08 pm:

    What has that got to do with a missed tackle stats count?

  53. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 4:12 pm:

    I thought it was obvious.
    You mentioned Mossie missing 3
    and Adi 2.

  54. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 4:18 pm:

    Must have misread your post then about turnstile Adi.

  55. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Reply to PietPloos @ 3:55 pm:

    same here – he was pulled in off his line by Jamie a few times which put BOD into space. He needs to trust his incide centre… Maybe that is from playing for the sharks that he had to cover for his incide centre a few times and now he is doing it all the time. Should be better this week.

  56. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    What I don’t like is that Adi is apparently playing with an injury. Let the bloke get it healed if that is the case. We have enough centers to cover for him.

  57. avatar middles says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 4:02 pm:

    How many tackles did they each make?

  58. avatar middles says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    I am asking because Fourie was on at time when we were doing most of the defending and I for one saw him all over the place.

  59. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 4:21 pm:

    Innocent on that count.

    I did not make one using
    those words.

  60. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Reply to middles @ 4:30 pm:

    Not sure, I didn’t see the full stats, was just told how many they missed.

    Regardless though, 2 missed tackles is hardly a revolving door in 50 odd minutes of rugby.

  61. avatar middles says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 4:34 pm:

    Not if the other team don’t have the ball. I remember the tackle count for the bokke being 20 something at halftime then 88 by the end of the match. Moer of a difference.

    Anyway, does it count as a missed tackle when you miss the player completely? :mrgreen:

  62. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 4:25 pm:

    not of colour… you drop adi for Fourie you will have to drop a whitey somewhere else for a POC – sad but reality of SA rugby! AND STILL WE DOMINATE!! BWAHAHAHA
    :muahaha:

  63. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 4:33 pm:

    Ah, my apologies, it was PP.

  64. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Reply to middles @ 4:39 pm:

    True, where’s Morné, he normally can dredge up some stats?

  65. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 4:41 pm:

    True, but it can be done and field an equally good team.

    Steyn at centre, POC at 15 maybe

  66. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 4:41 pm:

    Jip. You can also get away with
    selecting a guy that looks like
    an overweight prop and play him
    at #9.

    I still find it strange that :snor:
    (a) says he does not listen to
    criticisms
    (b) then goes off his rocker in
    defending himself against the
    critics and
    (c) then drops the player anyway.

    :cuckoo:

  67. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 4:57 pm:

    It’s not that hard to understand if you think about it.

  68. avatar Ollie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 4:57 pm:

    Reply to Ollie @ 5:02 pm:

    Although I must admit that my reasoning and PDV’s reasoning on it probably differ a tad :lol:

  69. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    399 936

    We may hit 400 000 comments
    tonight if the bloggers
    don’t become slapgat.

    I still remember the Hall of Fame
    days.

    Hehehe. Blerrie Rasputin!

  70. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Heading on 365:

    Ralepelle excited by Lions opportunity

    He’d better be, since he’s only
    No.2 with the Bulls and somewhere
    around No.4 in the country.

  71. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 4:57 pm:

    sounds like me – I hate people telling me what to do especially when I was doing it anyway!
    :rant:

  72. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Reply to Morné @ 1:58 pm:

    Are you for real the problems are not solved in the slightest… there is STILL no TH on the bench… the 5th best hooker in the land now in his place… STILL no bench 9… and STILL the injured Adi starting and to a lesser degree there’s STILL a 7ft winger at lock!

    He’s a simpleton…

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