Comments on: Beaten Boks rated

By: fyndraai

fyndraai — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:07:55 +0000

Reply to cab @ 11:43 pm:
I showed my wife some ERT posts.
She reckoned he has anger management problems.

By: cab

cab — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:43:11 +0000

Reply to Dancing Bear @ 8:50 pm: DB, nice to see you around, don't take Dawie personally, he's been in a kak mood for the last 10 years or so, i.e. the last time the Golden Lions had a decent side.

By: Boertjie

Boertjie — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:31:59 +0000

Reply to fyndraai @ 11:18 pm:

MS actually look quite well on attack.
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Behind a losing pack, getting
slow ball all the time against
a side lying on the off-side line
if not over it.
I think he’s overall just better
than Pienaar.

By: fyndraai

fyndraai — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:18:47 +0000

Pienaar played 3 tests at 10 last year against weak teams and did well. This year he played 5 games in S14 behind a strong pack and was mostly ineffectual (IMO).

Steyn played S14 behind a strong pack and was very successful both kicking and running.

In my Bulls tinted opinion it is true that MS must still prove himself to be a flyhalf at test level, but RP must still prove himself to be a flyhalf, full stop.

Compare the stats from scrum.com
test player kick/pass/run meters
1 RP 13/3/1 0
2 RP 5/10/2 2
3 MS 12/20/5 30

MS actually look quite well on attack.

By: Dancing Bear

Dancing Bear — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:50:33 +0000

Reply to DavidS @ 6:55 pm: Vok man, even when our views have far more in common than different, you have to turn it into an argument. Wouldn't the world be a much better place if we all focused more on what we agree on and a little less on our differences. Sorry, I post on these blogs to share ideas, information, and to learn and build my knowledge of the game I love. I don't need to make enemies on the other side of the world because we have small differences of opinion. I would rather have open discussions where we can both learn from each other, and yes, even help stregthen some of the viewpoints we have in common.

By: Dancing Bear

Dancing Bear — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:37:49 +0000

Reply to DavidS @ 6:55 pm: WTF? I am talking kak, but you say nothing different other than you disagree about Kanko. Fine, where did I say anything different about WO or M. Steyn? I said they were both very solid, but too predictable for the international game, you said they had their opportunity and did their best, how do either of these statements contradict one another? I made not a single comment about Ruan Pienaar at 9, all I said is he offers more variety on attack at 10 than M. Steyn does. I never compared him to du Preez, yet your argument is that we were worse when he came on at 9. Fine, again, nothing that contradicts what I said. Jislaaik man, you start your post with something like "I talk kak" and nothing you say contradicts what I say. You know perhaps if you chose to have a normal discussion, expanding on my views, offering different views and offering something in the debate other than I talk kak, I would have even a modicum of respect for your views. It is rare that I post here (and I suppose you have just confirmed why for me) but I didn't say a single negative thing in my posting, I spoke positively of both WO and M. Steyn, I just felt they are somewhat limited at this level, so why did you feel the need to take the discussion to the gutter? I really wish there was an ignore button here on Ruggaworld. Perhaps if one were developed I would be happy to test it on your posts.

By: DavidS

DavidS — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:25:48 +0000

Reply to fyndraai @ 7:50 pm:

Yup

You fully called it 100%

By: fyndraai

fyndraai — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:50:06 +0000

As I said in my post last week it is unfair to judge the second choice players on this game.
Too many changes and a half-hearted effort by the team leadership makes it extremely difficult to shine.

By: Morné

Morné — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:20:14 +0000

Reply to DavidS @ 6:55 pm:

I actually agreed (up and till your last sentence) with what you said... Morne and Meisiekind had good games...

By: DavidS

DavidS — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:55:33 +0000

Reply to Dancing Bear @ 2:10 am:

Nou praat jy loutere kak.

Sorry.

Morne Steyn had as good an opportunity as anyone and did his utter best.

His forwards were terrible and Super Kankow was correctly rated as pathetic.

Olivier had no choice but to run into the defence and second phase as every time the forwards gave FDP that slow ball the bananna defence isolated hin from his outside backs.

When Ruan Pienaar made his “appearance” at scrumhalf things went worse because he’s such a dawdler on te ball as a scrumhalf.

The other thing is our inside backs constantly had to cover his defnsive ineficciencies.

Olivier tackles better than De Villiers…