Bok Squad Announced

July 14, 2009
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The Bok squad for the Tri Nations has been announced.

Sport24

The national selectors have named a squad of 23 for the Springboks’ opening match of the 2009 Tri-Nations against New Zealand at Vodacom Park in Bloemfontein on Saturday, July 25.

The group includes 22 players that took part in the recently completed 2-1 Test series victory over the British & Irish Lions. The only newcomer is Sharks prop Jannie du Plessis, who returns to the national set-up after last playing for the Springboks against England at the end of 2008.

Fourteen of the 23 players selected were amongst the match 22 in the third Test against the Lions on July 4.

The group includes lock Bakkies Botha, whose two-week suspension ends this week. The Bok squad assembles in Bloemfontein on Thursday afternoon.

Players in the broader Springbok squad, who played against the Lions but have not been selected for the first Tri-Nations Test, have been released to play for their provinces in the Currie Cup.

The convenor of the selectors, Peter Jooste, said that it was important to maintain consistency in selection from the Lions Series.

“We have stuck with the core of the players who took part in the Castle South Africa 2009 Lions Series, most of whom have been in the larger Springbok training squad over the past 12 months. We have also tried to ensure that the combinations that featured in the first two Lions Tests are kept intact to ensure consistency and familiarity,? Jooste said.

Head coach Peter de Villiers added that whilst the Tri-Nations represented a new and different challenge it was important to build on what had been achieved against the Lions.

“The Lions Series was ideal preparation for the Tri-Nations,? he said.

“The core squad that secured the series win in the first two Tests has great potential as a unit and we believe that they have much more to offer. That is why we have made sure that we have remained consistent in our selection policy?.

Commenting on the return of Jannie du Plessis, Jooste said: “Jannie has been a part of the Springbok squad since 2007 and still has much to offer. He was unfortunate to miss out on selection for the Lions series but now gets an opportunity in the Tri-Nations?.

Springbok squad:

Forwards:

Andries Bekker (Western Province)
Bakkies Botha (Blue Bulls)
Heinrich Brüssow (Free State Cheetahs)
Bismarck du Plessis (harks)
Jannie du Plessis (Sharks)
Ryan Kankowski (Sharks)
Victor Matfield (Blue Bulls) – vice-captain
Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks)
Chiliboy Ralepelle (Blue Bulls)
Danie Rossouw (Blue Bulls)
John Smit (Sharks) – Captain
Juan Smith (Free State Cheetahs)
Pierre Spies (Blue Bulls)

Backs:

Jean de Villiers (Western Province)
Fourie du Preez (Blue Bulls)
Jaque Fourie (Lions)
Bryan Habana (Blue Bulls)
Adi Jacobs (Sharks)
Ricky Januarie (Western Province)
Ruan Pienaar (Sharks)
JP Pietersen (Sharks)
Frans Steyn (Sharks)
Morné Steyn (Blue Bulls)

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92 Comments

  1. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 8:51 am

    22 for the first test will be the same as the first Lions test with JDP in place of Carstens…

  2. avatar Morné says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 8:53 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 8:51 am:

    Pretty much.

  3. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 8:55 am

    Does this mean that Rose and a few others are out of the CC?

  4. avatar Morné says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 8:57 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 8:55 am:

    No the Boks not in the squad (all) have been released to their unions to play in the CC.

  5. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 8:59 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 8:55 am:

    Scrap that… looking at the wrong squad… so why do we only have a 23man squad that’s touring… I’d understand it the other way around?

  6. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:02 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 8:59 am:

    Er scrap that too… first game is at home… :oops:

  7. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:06 am

    Definitely looking like the best possible fixture list we could hope for…

  8. avatar Morné says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:11 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:06 am:

    Not bad at all.

    I guess;

    1. Beast
    2. Bissie
    3. John
    4. Bakkies
    5. Vic
    6. Brussow
    7. Juan
    8. Spies
    9. FDP
    10. (This will be interesting)
    11. Habs
    12. JDV
    13. (Another interesting one)
    14. JPP
    15. Frans

    16. Chilli
    17. JDP
    18. Danie
    19. Bekker
    20. Ricky
    21. Adi/Fourie
    22. Morne/Pienaar

  9. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:12 am

    Strong squad – PdV is learning and learning fast! I just hope JdP is fit enough but even then he is still a better option than Carstens.

    Pity I already put money on Aus winning the 3N – I am starting to feel I backed the wrong horse :oops:

  10. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:17 am

    Reply to Morné @ 9:11 am:

    I doubt he’ll play Ralepelle… I’m guessing it will be the same pack as the first test with two props on the bench…

  11. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:18 am

    Reply to Morné @ 9:11 am:

    So Kanko again will be the 23d man… poor oke!

    I think PdV will go with Ruan – who was excellent in the 1st test and Morne coming on to finish the game off.

    Adi will start ahead of JF – POC starting line up not enough with only 3 so Adi will make it #4. If JF does start then I believe that SARU has done a step forward to choose on merit.

    Chilly – IMO is being groomed and I back that! By the time the WC arrives he will be ready. :boxing:

  12. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:19 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:17 am:

    And it will put pressure on the POC mix… so Adi will start and RJ on the bench…

  13. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:19 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:17 am:

    can’t happen with no Gurthro

  14. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:21 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:18 am:

    I can only imagine how slow he’ll be by then… :brownie:

  15. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:23 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:21 am:

    still faster than BJ – did you see that Baabaas game?? He got the ball and everything went slowmo!
    :twisted:

  16. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:23 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:19 am:

    Touche… PDVivvy ain’t learning nothing fast then…

    Here’s hoping RJ is back to form..

  17. avatar The Brand says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:24 am

    Reply to Morné @ 9:11 am:

    So it will be a flip-the-coin between Kanko Bekker en PK on the bench with one of the three ot miss out every game.

    Can JdP cover at LH ?

  18. avatar The Brand says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:25 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:17 am:

    There IS only ONE extra prop in the 23 mix

  19. avatar WiLLem says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:26 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 9:24 am:

    Yip

    He should be able to do so.

    gOOde player JaNNieDup

  20. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:27 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 9:24 am:

    LH is not a problem IMO – Smit can cover that.

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:23 am:

    RJ has done it before and has the right complexion – who else? I would have gone for Adams but that is too much of a gamble.

    We forget that PdV could play Kanko as an extra forward ahead of RJ and have Ruan as 9 back-up.

  21. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:27 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:23 am:

    Both as slow as each other… but BJ is a prop… and I’ve seen him put in some huge hits too… cannot say I’ve seen anything other than a bit of average ruck work at snail’s pace around the paddock from Chilli the entire season (albeit from the bench)…

  22. avatar The Brand says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:28 am

    Reply to WiLLem @ 9:26 am:

    Yes – he is good . . . . . . enough.

    He was hopelessly out of form against the B&I Lions though :oops:

    te veel skaap-vetjies ge-eet ???

  23. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:29 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 9:25 am:

    again not a problem – we are in SA and if a prop gets injured you can always bring in Gurthro

  24. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:30 am

    What odds did you get for a 3N Aus win?

  25. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:30 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 9:28 am:

    not a problem if he is there as back-up. probably only have to play 20min if all goes well.

  26. avatar The Brand says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:31 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:27 am:

    Forgot about that – John at LH

    Forgot also that we might have 5 – 2 spilt :oops:

  27. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:32 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:30 am:

    4 to 1 – dropped since then. I made the bet in the beginning of June.

  28. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:32 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 9:24 am:

    No doubt Smit will be covering there too…

    Anyway…methinks this 23 is not necessarily the test team…

  29. avatar The Brand says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:33 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:29 am:

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:30 am:

    no problem
    no problem
    bla bla bla

    pokkol dan om oor te beeeachhhhh

    Come-on come-on 3N – ons is REG !!!

  30. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:35 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:32 am:

    Good odds… not far off the $4.5 being offered on them for the RWC…

  31. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:35 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 9:31 am:

    5-2 split IMO is not bad with the likes of Spies in the mix – he can always move to wing.

    Frans Steyn can cover: 15, 12, 10 and even 13 if need be
    Ruan can cover: 10, 9, 15 and even wing if need be.
    Habs can play: 11, 13
    JPP can cover 14, 15
    JdV can cover: 12, 13, 11,
    Adi can cover 13, 12
    JF can cover: 13, 15, 11/14
    etc.

  32. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:37 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 9:33 am:

    hehehe! :mrgreen: :boks: :support: :wave:

  33. avatar WiLLem says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:37 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 9:28 am:

    skAApvetjies- nah skAAp isnt that big in the Eastern FrEEState!

    leKKe bEEs though.

    Rather aTTribute it to the beach than leg-of-lamb.

    On cuRRent form I believe Werner Kruger to be the GrEEn3 after JohnSmit.

  34. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:39 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:35 am:

    I have a sneaky suspision that AUs will do well in the WC… Here my prediction for the last 4:
    Aus, NZ, SA, FRA

  35. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Reply to WiLLem @ 9:37 am:

    I agree and would take him on the NH tour if I were PdV.

  36. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Reply to WiLLem @ 9:37 am:

    Light-weight that offers nothing outside of the scrum IMO… I was hoping he’d impress me this season…

  37. avatar The Brand says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:40 am

    OK

    then lets get real – uhummmmm – detailed orientated ;-)

    If we did not have POC Laws in rugby – sanctioned by the IRB

    then

    only – Rissieseun en Ricky will be open for debate.

    Rissieseun is JT se pet-love en Bryce se pet-hate :twisted:
    Liebenberg – should be there
    or Strauss – IMO

    Ricky – has what is takes – proofed it in the past
    and if we go with – form is temporary and class permanent – it goes both ways.
    maybe Kockott – I am not in favour of that
    maybe Janu – I am not in favour of that either

    so rolly-polly IS the best sub at 9 we have NOW

    Apart from LH cover – in Steenkamp

    this is the best we can possibly do in SA right now.

  38. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:42 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:40 am:

    not much else out there! BUT I bet that Mujati makes a come-back before the WC and takes that 3 or 16 jersey!
    He is going to Northampton to learn how to prop from Tom Smith and Euan Murray – can only do him good!

  39. avatar WiLLem says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:43 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:39 am:

    HAve had that fEEling for quite a while now

    go and have a lOOk at the OZZie forwards of late.

    Their backs are never :poop:

    Mortlock might be paSSed it by 2011- but Gitaue will be playing behind a megaPack. Their biGGest weakness wiLL be their lack of a quality and suitable experienced 9 and their oFF field bOOzing.

    Trust Deans to have a plan for that – as in bye bye Lote….

    Eish those Kiwi’s were downright stupid to let Deans go.

  40. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:43 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:39 am:

    Pity the NZ odds are so slim… there’d be some decent hedging opportunities for putting down some dosh on both NZ/Aus…

    Currently looking at the Aus/NZ win by 1-12pts for any decent hedges… Aus spiv bookies are masters thwarting them usually though…

  41. avatar The Brand says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:43 am

    Reply to WiLLem @ 9:37 am:

    He he he

    Werner is not there YET – IMO

    On his way it seems – but not there yet.

  42. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:44 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 9:40 am:

    I agree with everything you say – if this was a pro team and those are the choices and I get paid mega bugs and do not have to worry about transformation then I would go for:

    Strauss as my back-up hooker.
    Vermaak as my back-up 9

  43. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:45 am

    Reply to WiLLem @ 9:43 am:

    Kockott will be in his prime behind the Aus mega-pack by 2011… :satansmoking:

  44. avatar WiLLem says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:45 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:42 am:

    If Mujati plays like Beast wuld anyone moan?

  45. avatar WiLLem says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:45 am:

    Might be Bryce

    He wiLL always be a liability temperament wise.

    What is your view on the ARU-ONieLL tiFF wiFF the cuRRent S14 Franchises.

    Pleased for the NedKeLLy’s men? :-)

  46. avatar Methos says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:48 am

    Not a bad side at all – Jannie Dup never convinced me – but lets hope he suprise me.

    Can’t wait to see how Brossouw measure up to McCaw and Smith – going to be interesting if the start bitching and moaning that he cheats on the rucks etc – my money is on Aus being the whiners first up. Think he’s one of the brightest prospects of the last few years. Text book fetching – I’ve been looking at the games he’s played in to see how he gets there so quick and manages to snaffle so many balls – he must have fooooooking strong forearm and arms as well – that is why he could throw Martyn Williams around like a ragdoll and also Mike Phillips.

    Cheers

  47. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:49 am

    Reply to WiLLem @ 9:45 am:

    Nope… same applies for most the ‘quandaries’…

    If Ralepelle could at least keep up with Cobus Caldo I’d be happy :lol:

  48. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:49 am

    Reply to WiLLem @ 9:47 am:

    Aus have an a-hole in O’niel at the top – and that is what is missing in SA.

  49. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    Reply to Methos @ 9:48 am:

    but who else if not JdP?? In SA playing props??

  50. avatar WiLLem says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 9:43 am:

    yip- but neither is JohnSmit retired yet!

    Beast is the replacement of Os

    Guthro just had the Numbah1 Jersey on aPPro

    same with Kruger become the JS replacement- and JaNNieDup as standin.

  51. avatar The Brand says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Reply to WiLLem @ 9:45 am:

    Some would ALWAYS moan :lol: :lol: :lol:

  52. avatar Methos says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:02 am

    Bryce

    There is no one better plying their trade in SA. So JdP is our only option – but he still doesn’t convince. He needs to have his bloody hair cut – he always gets a bug up his ass when someone pulls it – Shave the head and start Scrumming Jannie.

    TH is a huge weakpoint in SA rugby.

    PS. How is Joost and Ruben doing ?

    Cheers

  53. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:03 am

    Reply to Methos @ 9:48 am:

    The Brussow-Bounce especially for you…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFeozdjrBnk&feature=related

  54. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:06 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:49 am:

    RSA have plenty A-holes at the top… just none of them fiscal genius’ that don’t take kuk unfortunately…

    Willem… yeah not too sure what to make of the ’2nd Victorian bid’… it looks like it’s about to turn into to big business battling over the tender… who knows… a third company might even come in…

    Perhaps the first real sponsor owned team in the S14…

  55. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:08 am

    Reply to Methos @ 10:02 am:

    Yep… I’d have had him in the squad straight from the out-set… he was solid in the EOYT…

    Here’s hoping the Frik Kirsten’s start getting a move on…

  56. avatar The Brand says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:09 am

    Reply to Methos @ 9:48 am:

    Brussouw does three things very very good – that I have noticed.

    1 – He anticipates – where the ball is going to be – and run those lines.
    “Shortest route” – McCaw is the master in this – he is apparently 80% of game never further away than 15 meters from the ball !!! 8O

    2 – He focus mainly on two things – tackle and get-the-ball

    3 – He gets down low, real low, lower than most players ever can, arse to the ground stuff, with straightish back – and then brace himself for impact – when ‘stealing’ balls.

  57. avatar DavidS says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:12 am

    I am genuinely concerned

    But my concerns are known, so no use to rehash… so I won’t.

  58. avatar The Brand says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:12 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 10:03 am:

    Never realised how – faaaar – he moved him in the air 8O

    THAT is impressive

  59. avatar Methos says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:14 am

    Thanks Bryce

    Should we call it the Brossouw shuffle ?

    Cheers

  60. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:14 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 10:12 am:

    Some classic 6,7,8 interplay with the ‘blood-nut’ used as the ball… :lol:

  61. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:16 am

    Reply to The Brand @ 10:09 am:

    And he’s super-quick on top of that…

  62. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:16 am

    Reply to DavidS @ 10:12 am:

    Those damn Canadians!

  63. avatar The Brand says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:17 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 10:14 am:

    I remember somebody picking ‘blood-nut’ up – never saw it was Spies – rukking him up also like a rag-doll and then Juan adding meanness with a smirk on his face.

    A classic !!! :wave: :wave: :wave:

  64. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:30 am

    I have always predicted the 3N games according to schedule and traveling so here my predictions for this season:
    Saturday , July 18
    New Zealand vs Australia 07:35 – NZ to just make it!
    Saturday , July 25
    South Africa vs New Zealand 13:00 – NZ need to travel so SA by 10
    Saturday , August 1
    South Africa vs New Zealand 13:00 – NZ a bit more settled but SA at home to win.
    Saturday , August 8
    South Africa vs Australia 13:00 – SA 3rd game on the trot and Aus had a rest – Aus win
    Saturday , August 22
    Australia vs New Zealand 10:05 – Week break but Aus at home Aus win.
    Saturday , August 29
    Australia vs South Africa 12:05 – SA off a break but Aus at home… too close to call. Draw?
    Saturday , September 5
    Australia vs South Africa 10:05 – Aus 3rd game in a row so SA to sneak a win.
    Saturday , September 12
    New Zealand vs South Africa 07:35 – SA 3rd game in a row and travelling – NZ to win.
    Saturday , September 19
    New Zealand vs Australia 07:35 – Aus coming of a mini break – Aus to win.

    And if a calculate that all together: Aus win the 3N?? Well it all comes down to the game on the 29th August IMO. Aus or SA – the winner will win the 3N

  65. avatar WiLLem says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:57 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 10:30 am:

    fair coMMent that!

  66. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 11:18 am

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 10:30 am:

    2 from home and two away with BP’s will take it…

  67. avatar Boertjie says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    Swanger Meerkat has two weeks
    to shed 20 kg.
    Don’t think he’ll make it.

    Wonder how all the decent
    hookers feel?

  68. avatar PietPloos says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    http://www.ofm.co.za/sport.asp?NID=5142&rugby=&cricket=&golf=&football=&other=

  69. avatar DavidS says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 11:18 am:

    On the road?

    Where are we playing in Aus?

    My recollection is that Perth is the only place we’ve ever won in Aus since 1992…

    As for a win in NZ

    Last year was the last time ever.

  70. avatar WiLLem says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Reply to PietPloos @ 1:26 pm:

    Yip

    indEEd!

  71. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 1:32 pm:

    For any team…

  72. avatar DavidS says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 1:38 pm:

    Why for any team?

    I actually meant a Springbok team.

    France did it this year didn’t they?

    Reply to WiLLem @ 1:36 pm:

    What do you mean yes indeed? |Why are you lot not buying tckets? Too cold, Free State closed for the day? School holdays? Not playing against the Bulls? What’s the country bumpkin excuse this time?

  73. avatar Boertjie says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 1:32 pm:

    Perthoriafontein and Brisbane.

    Hamilton.

  74. avatar Boertjie says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 1:49 pm:

    Vrystaters spaar hierdie tyd
    van die jaar sodat hulle
    Desember see toe kan gaan.

  75. avatar WiLLem says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 1:49 pm:

    hehehe

    buying Lego!

  76. avatar DavidS says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Ok so in Perth het ons kans.

    That is the one place where we regularly take he Aussies close (last year hopefully being an abberation)

    Brissie we have NEVER won so screwesd there.

    Hamilton no idea

  77. avatar fyndraai says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    That is a good side but the imbalances are clear.

    3 hookers.
    3 props.
    3 scrumhalves.
    1 reliable place kicker and he may be on the bench.

    The 3N is not a NH tour against Wales, Scotland and England where one can get away with passengers.

  78. avatar Boertjie says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Reply to fyndraai @ 4:04 pm:

    Good points, also re the kicker.
    Mind you, Tina is at 15 – let’s hope
    Percy spends lots of time with him.

    We really need a better prop than
    JdP on the bench. Steenkamp is not
    really cutting it either.

  79. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Reply to fyndraai @ 4:04 pm:

    I don’t get it? This is not the touring squad – this is a squad for the home games.

  80. avatar fyndraai says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Once the match start you are stuck with 22 players.
    3 hookers is 1 too many.
    3 props is 1 too few.
    3 scrumhalves is 1 too many.

  81. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Reply to fyndraai @ 8:21 pm:

    for 22 you must have 5 front row players – we have that. 3 props and 2 hookers.

  82. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Reply to fyndraai @ 8:21 pm:

    SH – we have 2 and a fly-half that could play 9 if needed.

  83. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 8:40 pm:

    oh and RJ can probably back-up as prop ;-)

  84. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Reply to fyndraai @ 8:21 pm:

    one more question – what would you have done differently?

  85. avatar DavidS says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 8:43 pm:

    I would have found a way to make you and Ollie believers in the PDV is a doos theory

  86. avatar fyndraai says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 8:39 pm: John Smit is both, so we effectively have 3 props and 3 hookers between 5 players.
    Use this advantage to drop Chilliboy and bring in an extra prop. Then you have 4 props and 2 hookers.

    The same situation exist at 9. Leverage this and replace Januarie with an extra looseforward or versatile backline player.

  87. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Reply to fyndraai @ 9:24 pm:

    On the hooker front – was done with Guthro and Carstens in test 1 v Lions. This however skews the POC problem.

    Replacing RJ with a Looseforward may still happen – we have 23 players and either Kanko or RJ will miss out IMO.

  88. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Reply to JT – http://www.rugby-innsbruck.at @ 9:29 pm:

    On the hooker front – ok forgot Gurthro is a POC so that balances out. :oops:

  89. avatar DavidS says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Reply to fyndraai @ 9:24 pm:

    Bring in EARL OSE my broechie!

    On the hooker thing…. I suspect Chilly will become an also ran at some point while his place at Die Bulle will get taken by Bandisa Maku…

  90. avatar DavidS says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    And then at Die Bokke too I suspect…

  91. avatar JT - www.rugby-innsbruck.at says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    If you want this:
    Reply to DavidS @ 9:13 pm:

    then this should happen in a big test match:
    Reply to DavidS @ 9:40 pm:

  92. avatar DavidS says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    What a damned conundrum…

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