Tien vliegtuigkaartjies na aanstaande jaar se Wêreldbeker-rugbytoernooi blyk reeds bespreek te wees, met SA Rugby wat kontrakte aan ’n uitsoekgroep Springbokke toegeken het.
Stephen Nell, Rapport
Sport24 het op goeie gesag verneem dat John Smit, Bakkies Botha, Victor Matfield, Schalk Burger, Juan Smith, Pierre Spies, Fourie du Preez, Bryan Habana, Jaque Fourie en JP Pietersen almal twee-jaar kontrakte met SA Rugby gesluit het.
Dit beteken hulle vorm waarskynlik die kern van die span wat Suid-Afrika se titel in Nieu-Seeland gaan verdedig.
Nege ander spelers is ook deur SA Rugby kontrakte vir een jaar aangebied. Hulle is Tendai Mtawarira, Bismarck du Plessis, Andries Bekker, Heinrich Brüssow, Danie Rossouw, Ruan Pienaar, Morné Steyn, Wynand Olivier en Adrian Jacobs.
Die haker Chiliboy Ralepelle is ook in SA Rugby se planne, maar hy sal ’n fiksheidstoets in die nabye toekoms moet slaag voordat hy ’n kontrak kry.
Jean de Villiers
Daar word ook bespiegel dat Jean de Villiers, wat tans vir Munster speel, na Suid-Afrika wil terugkeer.
Andy Marinos, besturende direkteur van SA Rugby, het die afgelope week aan Sport24 gesê dat dit ’n saak tussen De Villiers en die Westelike Provinsie is.
“Ons kontrakte vir die jaar is reeds afgehandel. As hy terugkeer, neem ek aan dit sal na die WP wees. Soos ek verstaan is Jean tot die einde van dié seisoen by Munster gekontrakteer,” sê Marinos.
Sou De Villiers in daardie geval besluit om nie die opsie om by Munster te bly uit te oefen nie, kan hy in vanjaar se Curriebeker-reeks speel.
Al bied SA Rugby nie kontrakte aan spelers terwyl hulle hul potjie oorsee krap nie, het die posisie om hulle te kies klaarblyklik versag.
Die sinvolle bestuur van spelers deur oorsese spanne dra by tot hul welstand en kan selfs help verseker dat hulle uitgerus is vir die WĂŞreldbeker-toernooi.
As die name van die vier oorsese Bokke by die uitsoekgroep gereken word, is dit duidelik dat die Springbok-afrigter, Peter de Villiers, reeds ’n goeie idee het oor die samestelling van die grootste deel van sy groep vir aanstaande jaar se Wêreldbeker-toernooi.
Spelpeil oor die komende 18 maande sal natuurlik ’n beduidende rol speel, maar Suid-Afrika het die kern van sy uitsoekspan om sy titel te verdedig.
Dit is duidelik dat rugbybase nie dieselfde fout wil maak as voor die vorige WĂŞreldbeker-toernooi nie, toe hulle spelers onder kontrak gehad het wat nie eens saam Frankryk toe is nie.
Wat ook interessant is, is dat spelers soos die stut Gurthrö Steenkamp, die skrumskakel Ricky Januarie, die agtsteman Ryan Kankowski, die heelagter Zane Kirchner en die vleuels Odwa Ndungane en Jongi Nokwe nie onder die nuwe gekontrakteerdes tel nie.
Met slegs 10 senior spelers vir twee jaar gekontrakteer, is daar dus nog kans vir gesonde wedywering vir spelers om hul hande voor die toernooi op te steek.
Daardie proses begin vandeesweek in alle erns wanneer die Super14-toernooi afskop.
Intussen het De Villiers, die afgelope week by die bekendstelling van SA Rugby se Kampioene-toer gesĂŞ dat die Bokke nie op hul louere gaan rus oor wat verlede jaar bereik is nie.
Al het hulle in November swak getoer, was dit oorwegend ’n puik jaar, met ’n reekssege oor die Britse en Ierse Leeus en ’n triomfantelike Drienasies-veldtog.
“Ons moenie daarop uit wees om te behou wat ons het nie, maar om te verbeter op wat ons verlede jaar vermag het. Hierdie span het nog nie die beste van homself gesien nie.
“Ek is opgewonde om te sien hoe dit in die Super14-reeks sal gaan. Daarvandaan sal ’n mens kan bepaal hoe jy oor die volgende twee jaar met die span vorentoe gaan.
“Ek wil nie weer voorspellings so vroeg in die seisoen waag nie, maar ek dink ons beskik oor die vermoëns en die ervaring om weg van die huis speel.
“Ek voorsien dat die manne baie goed in die Super14-reeks gaan vaar,” sê De Villiers.
February 7th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Wat ook interessant is, is dat spelers soos die stut Gurthrö Steenkamp, die skrumskakel Ricky Januarie, die agtsteman Ryan Kankowski, die heelagter Zane Kirchner en die vleuels Odwa Ndungane en Jongi Nokwe nie onder die nuwe gekontrakteerdes tel nie.
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Also none for Goose Step.
In fact no 15 contracted.
Die haker Chiliboy Ralepelle is ook in SA Rugby se planne, maar hy sal ’n fiksheidstoets in die nabye toekoms moet slaag voordat hy ’n kontrak kry.
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Guy must have a golden
spoon up his arse.
February 7th, 2010 at 10:51 am
I only have 1 problem with the names mentioned – Danie Rossouw who IMO is over the hill…
February 7th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Reply to JT @ 10:51 am:
February 7th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Reply to JT @ 10:51 am:
Yes interesting no Andries Bekker anywhere???
February 7th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Well well does this mean SARU is going to dictate to provinces when these guys can and cannot play now that they have thrown downthje gauntlet and laid bare their plans…
February 7th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
JT en Oom Boer,
Danie Rossouw is a better lock than Bekker any day of the week. Bekker is 26 already, Danie is 29/30, he will show you stormpies in the first 3 weeks what he is capable of.
Remember 2007 semi vs crusaders? Danie started, remember 2009 semi vs crusaders? Danie played a big role.
The dearth of lock quality in the cape is much worse than at the bulls.
It will be wet in September and who will be better placed in the wet sluggy fields? Danie @ 8 or 4 or Bekker @ 5?
February 7th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
I refer to September 2011, WC month, that is why they are contracted.
February 7th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Reply to onerb @ 2:37 pm:
Danie & Bekker – two different locks completely.
And Danie is not even first choice at his union…
Remember the furor when some ‘other’ players got selected not being first choice at their respective unions?
February 7th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Reply to onerb @ 2:37 pm:
That said, I am a big fan of Pakslae, highly underrated even in his own union.
February 7th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
WP should have offered him big bucks about 2 years ago already.
February 7th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Reply to DavidS @ 2:07 pm:
As far as I know players are on a 3-tier contract???
Dont think this will be the case but I stand corrected.
February 7th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Morne,
He cannot play at any other union because their contracts are in English, hehehe. Seriously though, he is where he want to be. He is getting a nice salary and is not fekking up his body as he is only playing 20-30 minutes. no-one knows if he will be good starting every game and playing 70 minutes.
THe balance at the bulls are just right with him @ reserve. Maybe he will be utilized again as blindside with the new rules, but from the press it seem that pedrie is intent on claiming the 7 jersey, which is very good as no-one is assured their place.
I quite liked what Heyneck said regarding the players and studies.
This is obviously heresay but he said that every player that plays at the union must enrol for further education, he doesn’t care what they study as long as they study something. That is a life lesson. Not all the players go on to be coaches.
I saw Piet Krause the other day working at a hardware store and was quite sad seeing that.(Nothing wrong working at a HW store but still)
He was part of a bulls team that played in a S14 semi-final(2005, maybe 2006 too). And had he been able to pay his studies while earning big bucks, he could’ve had a nice degree behind his name.
February 7th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
i think smit and danie are coming perilously close to the end, 2 years is a long time at smit;s age, its good if he goes to the RWC if only as a replacement, but he still needs to be at the required level.
Bismarck should def have got a two year contract but seems there are noises he is bietjie grootkop, am glad jannie was not contracted in any case, we have better props.
as for jean de villiers, i’d prefer to see this de jong step up and claim a place, he’s got some much needed hunger about him, am hoping he, Fourie and Habana make a formidable combination.
Boks need another 4 to stick up their hand to cover Bakkies, Steven Sykes still seems the best bet, but he must step up a level this year.
February 7th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Reply to onerb @ 2:37 pm: Danie Rossouw is a better lock than Bekker any day of the week. Bekker is 26 already, Danie is 29/30, he will show you stormpies in the first 3 weeks what he is capable of.
Remember 2007 semi vs crusaders? Danie started, remember 2009 semi vs crusaders? Danie played a big role.
The dearth of lock quality in the cape is much worse than at the bulls.
It will be wet in September and who will be better placed in the wet sluggy fields? Danie @ 8 or 4 or Bekker @ 5?
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You just mention game he played at S14 level we are talking about International rugby here!!!
Andries can not be compare to Danie. Different like Morne are saying.
Morne only a one year contract, Maybe snor is still thinking Pienaar at 10 and not Steyn.
February 7th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Reply to Morné @ 1:44 pm:
Yes interesting no Andries Bekker anywhere???
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Jis, jou Afrikaans is slegter as
wat ek gedink het.
Of het jy darem al jou fout
agtergekom?
February 7th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Reply to Jacques(Bunny) @ 4:43 pm:
Maybe snor is still thinking Pienaar at 10 and not Steyn.
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My thoughts too.
And hoping to play Tina at 15?
February 7th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 4:47 pm:
Has to, but then Tina’s kicking record is only really worth mentioning on distance kicks.
Is he kicking for his French team?
February 7th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Reply to Morné @ 4:59 pm:
Wel, Kirchner en Goose Step
kan glad nie skop nie.
Lyk ook nie of hulle wil leer
nie.
February 7th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 5:02 pm:
Yes, which means for now we cannot do without Morne.
February 7th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 4:47 pm:
February 7th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
RWC
1: Beast, CJ, Guthro, Heinke
2: Bismarck, Smit, Liebenberg
3: BJ, Smit, WP Nel
4: Bakkies, Sykes, Danie, Alberts
5: Matfield, Bekker
6: Brussouw, Louw
7: Juan, Deysel
8: Schalk, Spies, Vermeulen
9. FdP, Francois Hougaard, Ruan
10. Morne, Ruan, Grant
11. Habana, Nokwe
12. Frans Steyn, De Jong, Olivier, JdV
13. Fourie, De Jong
14. JP, Mapoe
15. Frans Steyn, Joe Pietersen, Kirchener (but he needs to improve)
EOY grandslam tour 2010
1. Beast (CJ) 2. Bismarck 3. WP Nel (BJ) 4. Bakkies (Sykes) 5. Becker 6. Brussow (Burger) 7. Deysel (Alberts) 8. Vermeulen
9. Hougaard (FdP) 10. Pienaar 11. Habana 12. Frans Steyn 13. De Jong (Fourie) 14. JP 15. Morne Steyn
February 7th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Reply to cab @ 5:37 pm:
Guthro, Heinke –
Come on, Guthru struggled through the whole of the CC and EOY tour he was kak, Heinke will fade away this year and show he is not an international player
Bismarck-
he will be playing in England no place for a third hooker in team and Liebenberg is 10 times better than Bismark
Alberts, Sykes – Not good enough for international rugby
Deysel, – Is not in the same league only a good CC player showed EOY tour he is not up for it.
9. FdP, Francois Hougaard, Ruan -
Through in a young guy called Conrad Hoffman, I predict that he will be one of the up and coming stars this year.
10. Morne, Ruan, Grant
Count the name in of Lionel Cronje he will become a big one, mark my words today
February 7th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Reply to Jacques(Bunny) @ 5:56 pm:
Heinke should have been played as a loosehead.
Guthro, overrated.
Bismarck, still our second best hooker.
Sykes, a real prospect.
Deysel, could be used much better, he would be in my plans.
Hoffman, play some rugby first before we judge him.
Grant – had his chances.
Lionel Cronje – have not seen anything special from him.
February 7th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Reply to Morné @ 6:38 pm: Lionel Cronje – have not seen anything special from him.
Do you actually watch rugby??
February 7th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Did you watch yesterday’s game? When he came on the Stormers back-line found spark, the touches he done in the few minutes that he was on was brilliant, watch this guy this year!!!!!
I cannot wait for the S14 to start so that people can stop speculating and the REAL players to put up their hands and show us all who is the best.
:db:
February 7th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
….and do not come and say it was against Boland, if they played kak against them everyone would have said they are kak if they win which they did then everyone say it is just Boland.
The backup players did well for me and I am positive about this S14 for the Stormers. I believe at least they will be better than the last few years and they have a all round team although many do not agree with me
February 7th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Reply to Morné @ 4:59 pm:
only on the odd occasion but he has gone backwards in that department – however his general play especially defense is better than ever! word class
February 7th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Reply to Jacques(Bunny) @ 7:03 pm:
If that is what gets you excited about a flyhalf then Louis Koen must have been your hero.
Double skip passes doesn’t usually get me excited, and is not bound to anytime soon either.
February 7th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Reply to JT @ 7:28 pm:
Huh?
Who?
February 7th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Reply to Jacques(Bunny) @ 7:09 pm:
and do not come and say it was against Boland, if they played kak against them everyone would have said they are kak if they win which they did then everyone say it is just Boland.
Hang on!!!
I remember having this same conversation just about a month ago with you!!!
Difference is, back then I was saying this about Earl Rose (who had a good EOYT) and you were saying something to the likes of being a once off scenario (even though he performed well in all 3 games) and something about kak opposition…
At least Earl did this against international players…
So whould we get excited about him now too???
February 7th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Reply to Morné @ 7:36 pm:
At least Earl did this against international players…
He did it against club players not international team
February 7th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Reply to Jacques(Bunny) @ 8:02 pm:
Do you want me to list the players and their international and Super/Heineken Cup experience of the 3 games?
February 7th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Reply to Morné @ 8:05 pm:
And compare that to the Boland team just for fun?
February 7th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Reply to Morné @ 7:33 pm: If that is what gets you excited about a flyhalf then Louis Koen must have been your hero.
Double skip passes doesn’t usually get me excited, and is not bound to anytime soon either.
________________________________
I do really think you did not watch the game yesterday, this guy got all the skills, can kick out of hand – something Morne can not do(talking about technical kicking on attack. He can run with the ball and the vision he have to read the other team was quit brilliant. He can kick the ball many a miles and with some coaching he can be a brilliant gaol kicker.
February 7th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Reply to Morné @ 8:05 pm: Do you want me to list the players and their international and Super/Heineken Cup experience of the 3 games?
Hasbeens who can not play for their native country and go over and play for money. Heineken Cup is kak slow no try’s.
February 7th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Reply to Jacques(Bunny) @ 8:06 pm:
Ah you must be referring to that one kick-pass attempt thing he tried (which skewed off his boot) when he had a 4 on 3 situation and a simple pass would have been effective?
Reply to Jacques(Bunny) @ 8:08 pm:
“Has-beens”?
Should I remind you how many current (test and S14), and rated SH players are playing overseas?
Are they all “has-beens” or is it just a case of raising a point to suit a specific argument?
Strange…
Clubs overseas are playing a shit load of money for your-called “has-beens”.
Strange that dont you think?
February 7th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Bring it on!
February 7th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Self nie gekyk nie.
Omdat ek nie wou nie.
February 7th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Reply to Morné @ 8:13 pm: They move over for money and know their time at international rugby is over, yes they do have the experience but Tim Horn and Robbie Fleck showed yesterday in the pre-oldie match they also had the skills and the making of good internationals but are they good now, fuck no!!!!
February 7th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Reply to Jacques(Bunny) @ 8:23 pm:
I can name a current list of internationals overseas who are more than good enough to run out for SA, NZ and Aus tomorrow…
February 7th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Reply to Morné @ 8:29 pm:
I can name alot of players I think should be in these teams but it does not mean that they will be chosen if they where back in their native country.
This is all speculation on your part and no way to prove it, we can go on and on about this all night.
Why will a player leave his native country and go and play for money if they do not believe them-self they are not good enough.
John, Victor did it cause they thought after Jake they will not be picked again.
If you go and play their for building as a player yes. But 90 % of the players their are over the hill compare to international level and they know it and make some bugs. I can give it to you not all are rated as kak, but in a club side maybe 1 or 2 are still good enough for international rugby and if you could remember correctly both midweek teams we played did not have their star players in cause they where doing international duty, so the backup players played against the weak bok midweek team.
I will be making sure to compare Lionel and Golden Roos against each other in the S14. Just to see who is kak and who have actually potential
February 7th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Reply to Jacques(Bunny) @ 5:56 pm: Reply to Morné @ 6:38 pm:
agree partly, disagree on others.
Heinke started with a bang, but needs to have a big S14 since his rep and performances has dropped off a bit, it might be best for him to revert to LH as Morne says esp with WP Nel and maybe BJ and CJ back on the scene.
Gurthro needs to work on his scrumming, but he is a massive presence in the tight 5 and one of the unsung reasons of the Bulls 2009 campain, there are few who hit rucks as fearlessly and the oppo know it.
Bismarck, i totally disagree, he is the best hooker in the world, problem is he seems to know it.
Alberts and Sykes still have to step up, but they are looking to be the only real prospects to fill Bakkies skoene. Deysel i expect will have another good season and competes on the deck too. i’m not sure if hougaardt will be played by the bulls at scrumhalf, but imo he would take the S14 by storm, pity he did not stay at teh stormers – have not seen hoffman or cronje – the problem with the stormers is no meneers in their tight 5 so they going to be playing catch-up at the collisions again – should have signed one of CJ or BJ.
February 7th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
the other player to look out for is little Joe Pietersen, his size is against him, but unlike Brent Russel, he stands up in the tackle. He’d make a good flyhalf too, got speed, hands and kicks well off both skoens.
February 7th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Reply to cab @ 10:34 pm:
Pietersen possibly the one guy that
can prove that size is not
all.
Maybe Aplon too, but I don’t think
they should play together.
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February 7th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
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February 7th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Reply to Duiwel @ 11:35 pm:
Vier nuwe storie om oor
kak te praat en jy sĂŞ
Hoe kan ‘n mens jou plesier?
February 8th, 2010 at 12:28 am
Nee jy is oppie Bol,Toppie,
jy moet aansoek doen vir die Bok pos.
snor kak in sy broek
February 8th, 2010 at 2:09 am
Reply to Boertjie @ 10:19 am:
Beggars belief… although he is a cute mascot…
February 8th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Danie is the perfect World Cup dirt tracker.
You okes forget he played at 8 in 2007 and did a great job. He can play 4/5/6/7/8. Pretty much the ideal world cup tourist.
Wynand and Jacobs are th shaky ones. Lets hope this Super 14 unearths some new contenders.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:44 am
2007 is way back! Danie is not fast enough for what snor is looking him to do (play flanker)
February 8th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Reply to newbokshields @ 10:39 am: Wynand has never been given the step up at international level…
You appear to have forgotten that in Super 14 ast year he was without a doubt the best 12 in the tournament… and the Chiefs were even tearing their hair out when he recovered from an injuury in time to play in the final they fear him so much…
I think you are judging hom wrongly.
Danie…
Ja well I don’t see anyone stepping into those big shoes at all…
And to whoever said JP Pietersen is small
Hahahahahahahahah
Ek lag in jou gesig ou maat…. remember he started his school career as a lock… he is BEEEEEEEG . ahve met him personally too and he is a giant.
February 8th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Reply to DavidS @ 11:08 am:
10:50 – 44 : Joe Pietersen
February 8th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 11:23 am: Oh right