Ja, no backbone whatsoever.
Just glanced over a few wrong
decisions.
This is why I never watch B@A.
The whole controversy surrounding
Snor, Rolland etc. was just
mention in passing.
Cheapskate programme.
Really fukcing annoying that we have no ‘honest’ TV in SA. Guys on Top Gear take the piss out of their own government more than any show here, even comedy ones?
Two of the last posts i read on Do we live in Looneyland.
Kirk Mc Mahon1:10 pm
Emmett, thanks for discussing the wrong argument. The fact that when we do it we get penalised BY THE REF, when NZ do it THE REF lets it go. So you points, as politically correct as they are don’t belong on this discussion board. We are not discussing players cheating and getting away with it, the discussion is around biased refs. Tony, you obviously didn’t watch Reunion when the Bulls won the Super 14, not quite the same comments as when NZ are winning now.
If you understand sport in general you will know rules are there to make a game as fair as possible letting the best team on the day win. However, a biased ref can have a huge impact on a teams performance. So many times in this TriNations,NZ have illegaly killed the ball or used hands in the ruck and somehow have won the penalty driving SA back 40m and having to defend from a set piece. Refs decisions can shift the momentum in a game, and their decisions this year have influenced the game way more than any person. Thats Wrong!
This one i am not sure if i agree with everything said.
Emmett Gracie7:29 am
Enough with the ‘Cheats’ tag, its just a nonsensical position. Any Springbok, All Black or Wallaby will get away with what they can and always have. If my guy does it he’s a ‘smart professional’ , if the other guy does it he’s a ‘dirty cheat’. Victor Matfield’s brain works the same way as Richie McCaw’s brain, which works the same way as Rocky Elsom’s brain, and they all do the same thing – some are better at it, some are worse.
Two possibilities exist:
1) There are some fundamental problems with Boks which need work to find that extra 5% to get back to being competitive with the best teams
2) The whole world hates South Africa more than anyone else and is actively dedicated to seeing them fail by any means necessary
How many of us with a shred of perspective honestly and sincerely believe in option 2? Paddy O’Brien is a real live person with better things to think about on his weekend than how to shaft SA rugby
The near perfect game of the All Blacks was exposed a bit over the last few days.
Bob Dwyer you were right.
The whole week i tried to get someone on R-T to answer me on the first AB try. Tonight on Re-Union they at last answered me, the first try was according to them “fortunate”. Yes what i saw in a flash moment was true, the try by Carter was no try. The ball rebound from Carter to Nonu behind him and then forward, so it was in fact a penalty to AUS>
we need to address both 1 and 2 if we are to get back on top.
Jake made a big point of changing world perceprion about is. We won 2007 and no-one really begrudged us that win because were were full of humility, grace and professionalism.
Peter taks a good game about jesus and being role models but the boks have a certain arrogance about them that we did not have in 2007.
Reply to Brendon Shields @ 10:35 pm:
We do have a lot of work to do, but if the playing field is not level we will still lose. Hope the refs can learn from this controversy.
@BokRav – ja, ek gaan lekker lag toe O’Brian die slagoffer is waneer die IRB erken dat die ABs ‘preferential treatment’ gekry het. Hy’s a dwaas en verdien dit.
The correct way is sustained board room pressure by seasoned hardcore board room warriors (not that wasted vaginal discharge Marinos or limp dicked Hoskins)… what you need is a concerted media campaign against the referees, a supportive public and the sustained.
You need both.
Tantrums and diplomacy and media hounds…
Our media should make a point of going on the offensive against the refs and the IRB while the SARU limpdicks do their bit behind the scenes. Fly out to Londion and demand meetings with NoBrain and if he does not call an IRB meeting or SANZAR board meeeting and start handing out threats.
August 5th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Ek sal my beste doen, maar kan niks belowe nie.
August 5th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Self
August 5th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Aaaaahg!! Dont get it in London!
August 5th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
I cant wait for this weeks program. Hope we see some backbone.
August 5th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
fokol backbone.
I did however realise one thing. We moan about kiwis but lost to Oz in even worse fashion.
Yes the kiwis are not as good as they think. They dont really inspire me either.
Still the Ozzies will be the biggest threat come 2011 if Boks dont recover.
August 5th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Reply to Brendon Shields @ 9:50 pm:
Ja, no backbone whatsoever.
Just glanced over a few wrong
decisions.
This is why I never watch B@A.
The whole controversy surrounding
Snor, Rolland etc. was just
mention in passing.
Cheapskate programme.
August 5th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 9:55 pm:
Really fukcing annoying that we have no ‘honest’ TV in SA. Guys on Top Gear take the piss out of their own government more than any show here, even comedy ones?
Political correctness is Kak!
August 5th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Reply to Brendon Shields @ 10:09 pm:
Ja, as Rhoda Kadalie – or was
it Mamphela Ramphele? – has
statet:
“PC is the cancer of the society.”
August 5th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 10:12 pm:
I argued that on this very site one night when I still lived in Yeoville and was called all kinds of shit.
August 5th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Two of the last posts i read on Do we live in Looneyland.
Kirk Mc Mahon1:10 pm
Emmett, thanks for discussing the wrong argument. The fact that when we do it we get penalised BY THE REF, when NZ do it THE REF lets it go. So you points, as politically correct as they are don’t belong on this discussion board. We are not discussing players cheating and getting away with it, the discussion is around biased refs. Tony, you obviously didn’t watch Reunion when the Bulls won the Super 14, not quite the same comments as when NZ are winning now.
If you understand sport in general you will know rules are there to make a game as fair as possible letting the best team on the day win. However, a biased ref can have a huge impact on a teams performance. So many times in this TriNations,NZ have illegaly killed the ball or used hands in the ruck and somehow have won the penalty driving SA back 40m and having to defend from a set piece. Refs decisions can shift the momentum in a game, and their decisions this year have influenced the game way more than any person. Thats Wrong!
August 5th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Saru is perhaps the best example of a PC organisation.
Not man, not woman, but hermaphrodite, without balls.
August 5th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
This one i am not sure if i agree with everything said.
Emmett Gracie7:29 am
Enough with the ‘Cheats’ tag, its just a nonsensical position. Any Springbok, All Black or Wallaby will get away with what they can and always have. If my guy does it he’s a ‘smart professional’ , if the other guy does it he’s a ‘dirty cheat’. Victor Matfield’s brain works the same way as Richie McCaw’s brain, which works the same way as Rocky Elsom’s brain, and they all do the same thing – some are better at it, some are worse.
Two possibilities exist:
1) There are some fundamental problems with Boks which need work to find that extra 5% to get back to being competitive with the best teams
2) The whole world hates South Africa more than anyone else and is actively dedicated to seeing them fail by any means necessary
How many of us with a shred of perspective honestly and sincerely believe in option 2? Paddy O’Brien is a real live person with better things to think about on his weekend than how to shaft SA rugby
August 5th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
The near perfect game of the All Blacks was exposed a bit over the last few days.
Bob Dwyer you were right.
The whole week i tried to get someone on R-T to answer me on the first AB try. Tonight on Re-Union they at last answered me, the first try was according to them “fortunate”. Yes what i saw in a flash moment was true, the try by Carter was no try. The ball rebound from Carter to Nonu behind him and then forward, so it was in fact a penalty to AUS>
August 5th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Reply to superBul @ 10:24 pm:
we need to address both 1 and 2 if we are to get back on top.
Jake made a big point of changing world perceprion about is. We won 2007 and no-one really begrudged us that win because were were full of humility, grace and professionalism.
Peter taks a good game about jesus and being role models but the boks have a certain arrogance about them that we did not have in 2007.
Dik trille.
Yes we won last year, but we did not win friends.
August 5th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Reply to superBul @ 10:30 pm:
yes Ab’s in cloud 9 about to fall again. They never played for longer than 60 minutes against 15 men, in 3 games!
Not to mention the ball ‘bouncing’ for them as far as refs calls go.
Funny, we were that same team last year. But the house always falls if not built on a sturdy and humble foundation.
August 5th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Reply to Brendon Shields @ 10:35 pm:
We do have a lot of work to do, but if the playing field is not level we will still lose. Hope the refs can learn from this controversy.
I am out now have a nice day
August 5th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Reply to superBul @ 10:44 pm:
yes but why is playing field not level all off a sudden?
if SARU plays this right it can be a huge advantage to us next year. make refs a bit conscious not to bee too hard on us.
But the way we handle it now makes them hate us even more.
Loads of pressure in the IRB boardroom is the way to go.not media hype and tantrums
August 5th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Loads of pressure in the IRB boardroom is the way to go.not media hype and tantrums
=========
Eggzackerly.
But then again
August 6th, 2010 at 1:20 am
August 6th, 2010 at 4:54 am
@BokRav – ja, ek gaan lekker lag toe O’Brian die slagoffer is waneer die IRB erken dat die ABs ‘preferential treatment’ gekry het. Hy’s a dwaas en verdien dit.
August 6th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Reply to Brendon Shields @ 10:48 pm:
Bullshit
IRB will just ignore it the way they always have.
Watch what O’ Neill does
Watch what NZ does
The correct way is sustained board room pressure by seasoned hardcore board room warriors (not that wasted vaginal discharge Marinos or limp dicked Hoskins)… what you need is a concerted media campaign against the referees, a supportive public and the sustained.
You need both.
Tantrums and diplomacy and media hounds…
Our media should make a point of going on the offensive against the refs and the IRB while the SARU limpdicks do their bit behind the scenes. Fly out to Londion and demand meetings with NoBrain and if he does not call an IRB meeting or SANZAR board meeeting and start handing out threats.
August 6th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Reply to DavidS @ 8:41 am:
Board room pressure has accomplished nothing
The only guy who ever got anything right in a boardroom was Louis Luyt