“I shuddered when the Springboks announced that they are 100% behind Bees Roux.”
Hilda Fourie, News24
That’s what Tshwane metro police regional director Moloko Racheku said at the memorial service for police sergeant Ntshimane Johannes Mogale (38), who was allegedly beaten to death by Blue Bulls prop Bees Roux last Friday morning.
Racheku was referring to a comment by Springbok coach Peter de Villiers earlier in the week that they fully support Roux, though they do not support the crime he stands accused of.
De Villiers said: “The team supports him … not the deed, but how the situation developed.”
Racheku said that one could conclude from the statement that the Springboks know something about the incident that the rest of the public doesn’t. He wants to know what it is.
“The Springboks are a national team,” said Racheku.
“My son and I are Springbok supporters. So were Mogale and his son. Mogale is also entitled to the Springboks supporting him.”
Executive director of policing Ndumiso Jaca said that he condemned the statement by De Villiers in the strongest terms.
He said that former president Nelson Mandela had used the Rugby World Cup in 1995 to unite people.
“We as black people told the white people to join us, but statements like that (the one by De Villiers) divides the nation,” said Jaca.
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September 3rd, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Nothing he has said has
been so randomly
condemned – from all
quarters.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Says the guy who has callen up ancestors to haunt Bees till the end of time?
Seems he also knows something the rest of us don’t in condemning him…
And this from the director of the metro cops…
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Sometimes it is just best to follow the “no comment” route.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Reply to Morné @ 1:09 pm:
Ja, but it’s not PC to
criticise the belief in
ancestors, Tokkelossie
etc.
However it does not change
Snor’s gaffe.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
It would be nice to have all the facts
to form an opinion.
The media hype is frustrating
as is the tedious way south africans
turns everything into a race issue.
A man alledgedly have killed
a police officer.
In any democratic societythis
is investigated and the law
follows its path.
Why bring race into it?
Only in south africa.
Race becomes more important
than a mans life lost.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 1:24 pm:
It is not his belief in ancestors that is the problem, he can believe in the tooth fairy for all I care. It is the fact that by saying what he did, to haunt Bees he has already assumed he is guilty. Not the job or the place for a high placed cop to say this, he of all should know the law and how it is supposed to take its course.
Yet no criticism.
Let’s just criticise an ignorant comment the Bok coach made but let the very obvious malicious comment with intent from a high ranking police officer slide…
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Reply to Morné @ 1:30 pm:
That’s what I meant in saying
some things are not PC.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:49 pm
YCL criticises Div’s comments
Johannesburg – The Young Communist League (YCL) has criticised Springboks coach Peter de Villiers for his comment on the national rugby team being 100% behind murder accused Blue Bulls player Bees Roux.
“His insensitive comments are an embarrassment to the nation, particularly for someone who holds a national position,” the YCL said on Friday.
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Somehow I can’t seem to remember
the YCL ever condemning farm murders
etc.
But, as I said, it does not change
Snor’s gaffe.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:51 pm
No Bees comments from Bok captain
Springbok captain John Smit on Friday skillfully sidestepped any references to murder accused Bees Roux.
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The way it should have been.
September 3rd, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Reply to
@ 1:26 pm:
Bokker die rasse, wat die een of ander hoë in die Metropol wat sjeeste, spoke en fôllen komréds oproep.
Sit net so langs daai een of ander toordokter wat die parlement betree het met o.a. ‘n uitgedroogte galblaas op haar kop.
:bananarepablick:
September 3rd, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Is so Toppie,
asa captain should.
No point in when you’re put on the spot
to be wafflinf on instead of having an opinion
based on facts.
Sure old poepolpiet meant well
just the lack of an coherrent vocabulary
as per usual.
September 3rd, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Jawat Toppie,
bang vir die tokkelos.
ek sé liewers niks.
Ek is nou na tien jaar besig om van nasies te verander.
Gaan n parraman word seg die eydie-boek.
So min n parraman soos wat ek n reenboognasie-lid is.
September 3rd, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Reply to Duiwel @ 3:30 pm:
Ek is ook nie deel van die
reĂ«nboognasie nie – bly net
hier.
Kan nie tot ‘n hersenskim
behoort nie.
September 3rd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Raymond Ackerman presented
the Boks with their jerseys.
So this one poster quips:
What an opportunity lost. Bees Roux should have handed over the jerseys in recognition of the support from the Boks. Raymond Ackerman does not deserve the respect of our national team when compared to Bees.
September 3rd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
“We as black people told the white people to join us, but statements like that (the one by De Villiers) divides the nation,” said Jaca.
He is not white you dumb retarded African white woman raping own penis worshipping armed robbing dope smoking dark fiend…
See ..
How does that feel
And ja you sure told us to join you
With
“I am an African”
With “Kill a farmer kill a boer”
With “Hamba Kahle”
and with “One settler one bullet” and BEE and Employment Equity and “If you don’t like South Africa emigrate to a lilly white country” with Bhutana Khompela with Trevor Manuel saying “I support the All Blacks”… oh yes I felt the open armed joy of us joining you in a uniracial state when a teenage thug stuck cold steel barrel down my throat… when my wife was taken away from me…
FUCK YOU Jaca
FUCK YOU to hell
September 3rd, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Dont really get what this Jaco fellow is getting at.
“We as black people told the white people to join us, but statements like that (the one by De Villiers) divides the nation,” said Jaca.
What has this got to do with white people etc, seems they trying to turn this into a whole big race issue, suddenly Snorries skin tone is not dark enough.
You have to ask why they trying to turn this into a race issue
September 3rd, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Reply to DavidS @ 5:34 pm: lol we posted the same thing.
September 3rd, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Reply to Treehugger @ 5:38 pm:
because in the HRC it’s the only little line they can bleat
September 3rd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Reply to DavidS @ 5:40 pm: What is HRC ?
September 3rd, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Reply to Treehugger @ 5:41 pm:
Human Resources Council.
Another one of those with a
grand sounding name.
September 3rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Human Rights Commission
September 3rd, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Reply to DavidS @ 6:02 pm:
OK then. Seems the right one in context.
September 4th, 2010 at 2:28 am
Why are people so intent on getting rid of PdV? Are they afraid he might be successful?
The Aussies (barring Brendon Cannon – the man with the softest hands I have ever met) love him and his direct, no bull shit approach.
Would there have been the same outrage if it was Sephaka and not Bees Roux that did it? Would Sephaka have been offered the principle of innocent til proven guilty? What are the exact details of the case? Was there intent to murder?
Funny how the rights of all criminals are being protected and the rights of the victims ignored in today’s liberal world, but not in this case. If the hypocrits had any sense of fairnes why do they not question the history of the victim? Was he high on something, did he insight, all that bullshit principles they like to apply when it suits them and ignore when it doesn’t.
Seems everything has changed in SA, but yet nothing is different. Very sad indeed. Wasn’t there an 80′s song “Couldve been”? It think one of those one hit wonders that released it.
September 4th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Reply to Deon @ 2:28 am:
I believe the victim has had
three internal investigations
about his “behaviour”.
But the “history of the victim”
does not change what Snor has said.
Maybe you haven’t been following
the outfall closely. This guy is
like a ticking bomb with no
insight in what his comments may
lead to.
But I have no doubt he’ll survive
again.
The senior players will back him
no doubt, because they can
manipulate him.
September 4th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Reply to Boertjie @ 10:40 am:
Yes I haven’t followed closely the case, but if understand his position.
If I get to that situation, I would be very disappointed that a player has put himself in such a situation, BUT until he is actually proven guilty, I would still support him.
Maybe one can explain it easier if it is not a coach/player situation, but rather a father/son situation.
September 4th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Reply to Deon @ 12:20 pm:
Bees is not a Bok.
Some things are better left
unsaid – not only in SA.
Snor does not know where to
draw the line.
September 4th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
I have to agree with you Boertjie. Some things are better left unsaid. As the coach it is wrong for him to speak out.
Having said that, these plonkers should not make any comments about deviding the country, as they are the idiots making it a race issue.
Some points on the Bees incident. Bees’s credit card was used at 02:30 at McDonalds in Hatfield. This is long after he was arrested for the murder. Maybe by the 2 metro police partners that were absent?
Secondly, the owner of the club where Bees was, says that the metro police often sit and wait for his clients outside the club and then threaten them till they pay them off.
My uncle was pulled of by Metro one night and threatened with a gun against the head to go to the bank and draw them money.
Finally, this same metro policeman that was killed, has been investigated three times for theft, stealing from people he pulled over. That does place a different light on procedings, and makes one wonder. I still think you never have a reason to kill with your bare hands, but then again if he was threatened at gunpoint like my uncle, I can understand it.
Just an opinion. Hope the law runs its full course.