WP’s double-edged sword


Whilst many will applaud Western Province rugby for hanging onto most of their players, it might come at a massive loss.

It was reported this morning in the Cape Times newspaper that Western Province and Stormers rugby have managed to extend the contracts of Gio Aplon, Juan de Jongh and Jean de Villiers which will see them stay in the Cape for at least another year.

Players like Schalk Burger, Jaque Fourie, Duane Vermeulen, Tiaan Liebenberg and Andries Bekker are also believed to have committed to the union and will put their signatures on the dotted line soon.

This means that of their top players, the union at this stage will only lose the services of Anton van Zyl (Stade) and Francois Louw (Bath) as even Bryan Habana might stay on another year following a breakdown in negotiations with Toulon.

As good as this may sound for the Cape based team, it might also mean that they might lose a player like Johann Sadie who has reportedly been offered a contract at the Bulls.  With all three current Bok centers believed to extend their contracts, Sadie might be persuaded to make a move to Pretoria in view of getting more game time, a similar situation which saw Western Province lose the talented Francois Hougaard a couple of years ago.

For those Stormers fans hoping to hold onto Sadie there might be a glimmer of hope however as Stormers coach Allister Coetzee confirmed in the aftermath of their season-ending defeat last Saturday that any team that hopes to be competitive in Super Rugby will need a squad of minimum 40 players which will have to be rotated effectively.

It now remains to be seen whether Stormers and WP management can convince Sadie of this fact and retain his services in 2012.

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  1. well it would be typical WP to hold onto Jean “my heart hurts the most” De Villiers and lose Sadie!

    You need to find a 10 fast.

    Just leave Ebersohn and Goosen the hell alone showponies.

  2. Why on earth would keeping some of these seniors be a double-edged sword…

    One thing this S15 has proven is that it’s no longer even a ’22man game’… it’s a ’30 plus’ squad game if one hopes to make the play-offs… at the very least the best possible two players in every position need to stocked…

    And then there is still the CC which demands attention and the Boks will be played less and less…

  3. Reply to bryce_shark_in_oz @ 11:49 am:

    agree, but dont hold onto old ones if they cost a shit load of money. cj for example has added no value to the stormers.

    but then again knowing you bryce, you’d be happy to see Sadie go to bulls if it means the stormers retain the fearsome Divs/Fourie combo

    :dead horse:

  4. Reply to the cheetahs are pumas! @ 11:44 am:

    Over-rated… misses far too many tackles, does not have the speed for ‘huge money’ nor decent linking skills… albeit he is young and gives it his all… I dare he was only really noticed as he had an awesome beard and stood out in a shite side…

    Would I have him as my second choice 7 in a S15 squad… yep…

    Would I pay ‘huge’ money for him to lure him back to a union with very good loose-forward depth… not a f@#$!

  5. Reply to the cheetahs are pumas! @ 11:46 am:

    Fat Boy CJ

    This morning the other fat boy – Ollie le Roux –
    sticks up for CJ, saying he is a must for RWC.

    Hennie le Roux sees Jannie, Smit and Beast in
    the front row.

    Isn’t that the same three that got fooked by
    the Saders?

  6. Reply to the cheetahs are pumas! @ 12:57 pm:

    1. Marcel van der Merwe
    2. Michael van Vuuren
    3. Trevor Nyakane
    4. Francois Uys
    5. Izak van der Westhuizen
    6. Pieter Myburg
    7. Pieter Labuschagne
    8. Boom Prinsloo
    9. Tewis de Bruyn
    10. Riaan Smith
    11. Cameron Jacobs
    12. Johan Goosen
    13. Phillip Snyman
    14. Nico Scheepers
    15. Philip Burger

    16. Schalk van der Merwe
    17. Hercu Liebenberg
    18. JC Astle
    19. Willie Britz
    20. Piet van Zyl
    21. Robbie van Schalkwyk
    22. Ryno Benjamin

  7. Reply to bryce_shark_in_oz @ 1:14 pm:

    For ‘real’ money they need to buy another world class lock… and then simply convert Elstad to blind-sider (his choice position) bring in the young Nizaam Carr to add to their current stocks although I think Louw is going…

  8. there go our WC hopes: “Brian Mujati will not be in the Boks’ World Cup squad as his paperwork is not in order and Home Affairs requires him to be ‘working’ in SA.”


  9. Reply to Morné @ 1:18 pm:

    Didn’t impress me much in U20 RWC… he’s quick… and still listed as a hooker on the WP site?

    Forgot to add brining in that Etzabeth chap into the locks once they’ve ‘bought’ another world class one…

    Actually RSA lock depth is pretty non existent…

  10. Cheetahs fielding very young team, interesting to see Goosen at twelve, may be an inspired choice. Goosen not has stil got a year left on his contract. Boom Prinsloo at 8 springbok sevens, Riaan smit on 10 he played wing in S15 and daniller at centre, (where he started for the bulls) again interesting. But a good young team all in all

  11. Reply to JT_Stormers @ 6:40 pm:

    It seems that water has seeped into your brain eh

    No non-South Africa passport holder is permitted to play for any RSA national team… finished!

    IRB rules have nothing to do with it…

    Mujati has stated he wants his English citizenship and is in application phase due to his POM wife, the Zimbabwean has no allegiance to RSA nor intends to… really not a lot to fathom here… :Rule 9:

  12. Reply to Boertjie @ 7:44 pm:

    Personally I don’t blame him… he has an English wife, English kid, great contract, brews beer in his spare time in his English mansion… and was treated like sh!t on many fronts in RSA… not too mention he’s still a Zimbo gaining English citizenship… some fans live in a dream world…

  13. Reply to Morné @ 9:38 pm:

    That’s the thing… he was pushed into the Bok fold way too early just like Beast (who fortunately for him had a much better work-rate around the paddock to mask his deficiencies)… and do to that ‘quota’ tag and the shenanigans surrounding his crim father… was drinking his way through it which only worsened his on-field performances…

    The best thing he could have done was move on… it’s only his stint in England that has improved his game (read scrumming)… if you you see his last few games he was gassing big time in the second halfs…

    But you’re correct… the Boks do not exactly have huge TH depth… this is exactly what separates Mujati from the Schalk Brits debate… well that and Brian is actually not a South African nor never wants to be unlike Beast.