Springboks 13, Samoa 5

September 30, 2011
Posted by Morné

The Springboks will be looking to keep their momentum as they play their final pool game against the physical Samoans.

Previous results
2007: South Africa won 59-7, Paris (World Cup pool match)
2007: South Africa won 35-8, Johannesburg
2003: South Africa won 60-10, Brisbane (World Cup pool match)
2002: South Africa won 60-18, Pretoria
1995: South Africa won 42-14, Johannesburg (World Cup quarterfinal)
1995: South Africa won 60-8 in Johannesburg

The teams

South Africa: 15 Pat Lambie, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn , 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Heinrich Brüssow, 5 Victor Matfield (captain), 4 Danie Rossouw, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 John Smit, 17 Gurthrö Steenkamp, 18 CJ van der Linde, 19 Willem Alberts, 20 François Louw, 21 François Hougaard, 22 Jean de Villiers.

Samoa: 15 Paul Williams, 14 David Lemi, 13 Seilala Mapusua, 12 Eliota Fuimaono Sapolu, 11 Alesana Tuilagi, 10 Tusi Pisi, 9 Kahn Fotuali’i, 8 George Stowers, 7 Maurie Fa’asavalu, 6 Taiasina Tuifua, 5 Kane Thompson, 4 Daniel Leo, 3 Census Johnston, 2 Mahonri Schwalger (captain), 1 Sakaria Taulafo.
Replacements: 16 Olé Avei, 17 Anthony Perenise, 18 Logovi’i Mulipola, 19 Ofisa Treviranus, 20 Filipo Lavea Levi, 21 Junior Poluleuligaga, 22 George Pisi.

Date: Friday, September 30
Venue: North Harbour Stadium, Albany
Kick-off: 20.30 (07.30 GMT)
Expected weather: Partly cloudy with a high of 18°C, dropping to 12°C.
Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Assistant referees: Wayne Barnes (England), Stuart Terheege (England)
TMO: Graham Hughes (England)

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71 Comments

  1. mawm-the-ever-hopeful-shark mawm - 100% Bok says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 8:48 am Reply to this comment

    I hope the Bokke haven’t underestimated the passion that this Samoan team are going to bring to the field.

    Apart from their self belief (fueled by the NZ press), today is the anniversary of the devastating tsunami that destroyed much of Samoan coastline 2 years ago.

    Commiserations to those who lost family and property….nou gaan moer hulls Bokke.

    :support: :beer: :beer:

    :boks: :boks: :boks:

  2. Cosa Cosa - BULLS says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 9:22 am Reply to this comment

    Ons gaan hulle 60-20 wen.

  3. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 9:29 am Reply to this comment

    Ek het dit as 56-10

  4. mawm-the-ever-hopeful-shark mawm - 100% Bok says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 9:31 am Reply to this comment

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 9:29 am:

    Glad to see you have made the ‘time change’.

    :boks:

  5. Asteroth Asteroth's Limping Lions says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 9:31 am Reply to this comment

    This gonna be awesome! Watching on a 5 meter screen!

  6. Cosa Cosa die BLOUBOK says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 9:34 am Reply to this comment

    Het julle gesien die Boere-haka?

    Hulle het geskree “Jou Ma se p**s”!

  7. Americano Americano says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 9:35 am Reply to this comment

    What do you think about the white unis?

  8. Americano Americano says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 9:35 am Reply to this comment

    Wow Habana

  9. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 10:19 am Reply to this comment

    with more precision we could have added another 14 points in that half. :?

  10. Americano Americano says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 10:19 am Reply to this comment

    great 1st half.

  11. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 10:22 am Reply to this comment

    :boks:

  12. Rent-a-quota Rent-a-quota says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 10:24 am Reply to this comment

    Jeez –
    This Owens guy can be irritating.
    SA tackling technique variations interesting.
    P.S. Go Bokke

  13. mawm-the-ever-hopeful-shark mawm - 100% Bok says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 10:25 am Reply to this comment

    :support: :beer: :beer:

  14. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 10:28 am Reply to this comment

    Even Spies working hard for a change 8O

  15. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 10:42 am Reply to this comment

    56-10 I underestimated the Samoan defense…

  16. Welshbok die Brandwag Welshbok die Brandwag says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 10:53 am Reply to this comment

    I wish FdP would for the love of it skip pass Morne Steyn!

  17. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:13 am Reply to this comment

    YC would have been fine for that :roll:

  18. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:17 am Reply to this comment

    Fook, but the Samoans are causing a lot of off the ball stuff.

  19. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:18 am Reply to this comment

    At the last ruck Mapasua also went for Brussouw’s face :censored:

  20. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am Reply to this comment

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 11:18 am:

    Was it Brussouws of Schalks? Either way, they have been doing that type of stuff for the whole 2nd half

  21. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:29 am Reply to this comment

    Well, I’ve just lost my last hope for the Boks.
    All the imaginitive play and passing moves
    came from Samoa.
    Boks looked content of absorbing pressure,
    no attacking moves, not even from 5 yard
    possession.

    Lambie my MoM.

  22. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:29 am Reply to this comment

    Well done Samoa! Really good fight and keeping Bokke on their toes going into the QF!

  23. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:30 am Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 11:29 am:

    after walking away with it v Fiji and Namibia – this is the best medicine for the QF.

    Samoa were excellent! :applause:

  24. Methos The French Stormer Methos The French Stormer says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:32 am Reply to this comment

    Jissus

    Some of the kakkest reffing I’ve seen in my life – this dude needs to go back to U9 and learn the whole thing again.

    Fook me that was bad – just disregarding stuff.

    This is me leaving in a huff – (not too much though – got a broken rib) and going to have a beer… :beer:

    Cheers

  25. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:32 am Reply to this comment

    Eish, there are going to be some sore bodies tomorrow

  26. mawm-the-ever-hopeful-shark mawm - 100% Bok says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:33 am Reply to this comment

    Boks look the same as against Wales. :bangheadt: Not committing enough to the breakdown, missed tackles, kicking away ball possesion. They allowed the Samoans to get to them with all the off-the-ball shit. The ref was kak – he lost control of the game. :poop:

    At least we won……but fark knows how we’ll beat Aus and the AB’s.

  27. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:35 am Reply to this comment

    Reply to Methos The French Stormer @ 11:32 am:

    I think if he blew everything it would either have moved from one penalty to the next or Samoa would have ended up with nobody left on the field.

    Really hard stuff by the Samoans, but why so much off the ball stuff.

  28. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:36 am Reply to this comment

    Reply to mawm – 100% Bok @ 11:33 am:

    Like Fitzy is saying on ITV – Team need tough games to be tested in the pool to be prepared for the QF – SA will not be happy but will be reflecting and be ready in the QF.

    He also said that SA were not bad but Samoa were excellent!

  29. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:36 am Reply to this comment

    Reply to mawm – 100% Bok @ 11:33 am:

    Mate, I don’t any teams that would have held it together under what the Boks went through there today.

  30. Methos The French Stormer Methos The French Stormer says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:38 am Reply to this comment

    Tafelberg – Stormers 86 <——- Deon's Missus
    Amethyst 86 <——– My Missus
    mrslisarandall 85 <——– Someone's missus

    The Kak List

    Cosa die BLOUBOK 81
    onerb’s RAGING BULLS 77
    bok_in_oz 67
    MagerMom 58
    Stormersboy 33
    CapeBok 33
    Lucian 30
    shauno 28
    Memphis 27
    Martin69 24

    DavidS – they are breathing down your neck Bugger…
    Maak plan pappa…

    Cheers

  31. Memphis Rains Memphis Rains says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:51 am Reply to this comment

    Ka-aaak reffing!!!!

  32. mawm-the-ever-hopeful-shark mawm - 100% Bok says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 11:52 am Reply to this comment

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 11:36 am:

    The win will exact its price – there will be plenty injuries; it was a hard game but the Boks started getting distracted by the off-the-ball shit instead of playing the game.

    Reply to Ollie @ 11:36 am:

    Yes it was tough. Lambie impressed me – he didn’t stand back once.

    :boks:

  33. The Year of the Cheetah its a 15 man game - embrace it! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 12:00 pm Reply to this comment

    i expected no more from the boks. these okes simply do not go out to play. Brussouw wasting his time winning ball that ends up down the throats of the opposition.

    In this setup Lambie will also be kak in a years time.

    The boks have so far been good getting out of shit. Dont expect it to last.

    Burger and Roussouw in every backline move. Totally fucking useless the both of them – as backline players that is.

  34. The Year of the Cheetah its a 15 man game - embrace it! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 12:02 pm Reply to this comment

    scrum 5 metres out almost in middle of the field.

    Our only MOVE is to pass to Steyntjie who breaks inside and loses the ball.

    pathetic Muir and co.

  35. The Year of the Cheetah its a 15 man game - embrace it! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 12:04 pm Reply to this comment

    but you have heard it all from me before. Probably being ‘negative’ or even unpatriotic but our play for me is simply not good enough.

  36. namboer namboer says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 12:06 pm Reply to this comment

    Hoessit, Tjops.

    Watched as best I could but could only manage with half an eye.

    Methinks it was a lot tougher than it looked and at least it’s a win.
    Het julle die Somoane se reaksie gesien na die tyd? Reken nogal hulle het alles en die wasbak ook in die stryd gewerp. Sou gaaf wees as die Bokke nog ‘n drie of wat kon inryg…vir my RR ook!

    Maybe just the med’cine/wakeup call they needed to prepare for playoffs, like JT says.

  37. Deon Deon says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 12:20 pm Reply to this comment

    Wake up call

    Nuff said

  38. namboer namboer says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 12:21 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to its a 15 man game – embrace it! @ 12:04 pm: Support net die Aussies, Skotte, Frankryk of Kanada en kry klaar. Of sommer league, daar is mos heelwat minder voorries?
    :roll::mrgreen: & :Ollie:

  39. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 12:23 pm Reply to this comment

    I don’t see this as a wake-up call at all.

    I see it as the first of 3 bruising encounters that I hope we can weather. Of the 3 SH teams the Boks have by far the most physical path from last round to final.

  40. Deon Deon says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to its a 15 man game – embrace it! @ 12:00 pm:

    OK nou weey ek jy wil net stront praat. Schalk is ge kies as MOM deur mense wat iets weet van die game.

    Scroll button aan.

  41. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 12:55 pm Reply to this comment

    Wakeup call?
    What is there they can wake up to?
    Zilch.
    Even the kicking game was up to utter shit -
    always afraid to move the ball, rather give
    it to Samoa.
    :poop: :poop: :poop:

  42. namboer namboer says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 12:56 pm Reply to this comment

    Enewel, terug na die rugby.

    Hoekom is képpie Smit afgestuur? Ek het nie die replay gesien nie?

    Hoe was dit toe dat Bismarck beginne en képpie op die bank bly, het dit gewerk?

    Houghaard het m**rse harde hou op sy klapperdop gekry, moet seker harsingskudding wees. Tand dalk ook uit, het rof gelyk. Hy was uitpype voor hy nog grond gevat het!

    Habana probably just a lammie, or what’s the verdict? Jean had a good counter there (should have passed after he made contact though…), how did he do otherwise?

  43. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 1:01 pm Reply to this comment

    Smit went with a kind of one handed intercept.
    Ref thought it was deliberate knockdowm, even when
    Smit’s hand didn’t go down.

    Bismarck het meer turnovers gewen as Brussouw -
    of so het dit gelyk.

    Samoaan klap Bissie, hy klap terug.
    Assref sê dis strafskop teen Bissie.

  44. Deon Deon says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 1:08 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to namboer @ 12:56 pm:

    Ref het gedink dit was ‘n deliberate knock down. In my mind nie ‘n geel kaart werd nie.

    Moet se ek is bly Bakkies het nie gespeel vanaand nie. Hy sou ‘n paar Samoane dik gebliksem het.

    The grootste risiko vanaand was altyd gewees die hits wat ingesit sou word sodra Samoa besef het hulle is uit die game uit.

    Bokke het tentatief gelyk. Weet nie hoekom nie, maar nou ja. Miskien was dit nie ‘n wake up call nie en gee dit die :doemprofete: nou weer rede om hulself op die skouer te klop, maar nou ja.

    Die intensiteit was nie genoeg in die 2de helfde nie.

    Ek dink Hougaard is ‘n probleem. Hy sal tien teen nie volgende week kan speel nie. Maar Jean is nou daar so nie te ernstig nie. Hy sal goed doen as plaasvervanger vleuel.

    Lambie was impressive vanaand. Hy kan maar bly.

  45. Deon Deon says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 1:09 pm Reply to this comment

    Something that I noticed is the leadership on the field. Most of the times it seemed that Schalk was calling the shots. Where was Victor? :?

  46. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 1:22 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Deon @ 1:09 pm:

    :yeahright:

  47. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 1:23 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Deon @ 1:09 pm:

    Don’t forget they have a multi leader setup, you probably saw the parts that fell under Schalks jurisdiction.

  48. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 1:23 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Deon @ 1:08 pm:

    Kom ons kyk. Een van ons sal ons woorde
    moet sluk.
    Ek dink nie dit gaan ek wees nie.
    :whistling:

  49. Deon Deon says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 1:32 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 1:23 pm:

    Whatever

  50. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 1:36 pm Reply to this comment

    One thing for sure, if Samoa keep playing like that they will climb a bit higher in the IRB rankings……. At least until the refs start blowing them up for all the infringements and dealing out the cards.

  51. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 2:02 pm Reply to this comment

    This win puts PDV at a 63.8% win ratio. 2nd Only to The Headmaster.

    Not bad for a team coached be the players a clown an unpopular coach.

  52. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 2:02 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Ollie @ 2:02 pm:

    Damn, the strikethrough tags don’t work :cry:

    Oh well

    :D & :Ollie: boys

  53. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 2:13 pm Reply to this comment

    Welsh ref to make sure wales go through :whistling:

  54. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 2:28 pm Reply to this comment

    Little island in the middle of nowhere.
    Population 167,000
    Says it all.
    They are more deserving of tests than
    Italy, Scotland.

  55. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 2:33 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 2:28 pm:

    I wouldn’t say more deserving than anybody, they are just more deserving.

    Every team out there deserves tests, the better they play the higher ranked the opposition should be.

    Maybe a competition for the 5 top teams that do not play in either the 6N or 3(4)N. That would surely bring money in for the countries involved and grow the game.

  56. Timeo Timeo says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 3:08 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 1:01 pm:

    There is no such thing as a knock-down. It is a knock-on and the direction of the hand is not relevant.

    (e) Intentional knock or throw forward. A player must not intentionally knock the ball forward
    with hand or arm, nor throw forward.
    Penalty: Penalty Kick. A penalty try must be awarded if the offence prevents a try that
    would probably otherwise have been scored.

  57. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 3:10 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Ollie @ 2:33 pm:

    No sponsor will agree.
    And their viewership is extremely limited.

    Even getting Georgia, USA etc. to play curtain
    raisers against SA B for the mid-year tests
    will be too expensive – more outlay, same inlay.

    Pity. I can’t see the game growing.

  58. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 3:28 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Timeo @ 3:08 pm:

    No mention of a yellow card there :shake:

    Reply to Boertjie @ 3:10 pm:

    We will never know about the sponsors unless they try it.

    Getting the top tier 2 countries into a recognised comp is more interesting for them than playing a one off against a B team of a Tier 1 country.

  59. Duiwel Duiwel says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 4:05 pm Reply to this comment

    I watched the whole game twice,
    watch it again tonight
    with the boy.

    I think thre was a lack of intensity,
    almost orchestrated by the Springboks.
    As if been told to play samoas rugby
    doesn’t matter if we lose,
    by certain players.
    DanieR did some good work
    until he showed hos to drop a sure try.
    We had a lot of luck on calls and bounce
    samoans can’t kick for shit.

    It looked as if the bokke tried to lose that game
    with credibility but finally had to abandon to win against
    an average side.

    Samoa played well but
    an average side,their threat potential
    to the tri nations sides a lot of hype.

    The captaincy was shaky,a lot of kak calls
    and almost no direction,
    a thursday at the office.
    Vat dit kalm,more is vrydag.

    If that was indeed their best effort by the Bokke
    then they deserve to come home,
    quickly ,for their effort was piss poor.

  60. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 4:18 pm Reply to this comment

    Samoan fined R80,000 for using a sponsored
    mouth guard outside of the rules.
    This fkn IRB mob is the absolute pitts.
    I mean WTF looks for sponsoring on
    mouth guards!
    :bangheadt:

    And then the Poms go scott free.
    :bangheadt:

  61. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 4:21 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Duiwel @ 4:05 pm:

    Tonight?
    Is die son al onder by jou>
    Of het jou vrou die blindings
    toegetrek?
    Of dalk het jy ‘n donkerbril op?
    :weed:

  62. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 4:23 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 4:18 pm:

    8O

    Ridiculous

  63. namboer namboer says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 4:23 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 4:18 pm: Dis dém treurig. Wie die joos sien nou (en worrie) oor watse mondskerms hulle dra.

    :shake: :cuss: en : bigfinger:

  64. namboer namboer says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 4:26 pm Reply to this comment

    “Samoans hit out at ‘harsh’ ref”
    Arti op Sprt24.

    Sjoe, dis bietjie rof/treurig!

  65. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    September 30th, 2011 at 6:53 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 4:18 pm:

    Hmm dis mos kak! If the kiwis weren’t so arrogant i would be for the boycot at the next RWC

  66. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    October 2nd, 2011 at 1:08 am Reply to this comment

    GAME STATS

    Possession
    South Africa 51%; Samoa 49%

    Rucks/mauls
    South Africa 57; Samoa 116

    Line breaksSouth Africa 2; Samoa 6

    Offloads
    South Africa 10; Samoa 19

    Scrum wins
    South Africa 6; Samoa 7

    Lineout wins
    South Africa 15; Samoa 13

    Lineouts won against throw
    South Africa 4; Samoa 2

    Runs
    South Africa 77; Samoa 146

    Run metres
    South Africa 462; Samoa 951

    Kicks
    South Africa 27; Samoa 21

    Kick metresSouth Africa 931; Samoa 577

    Tackles made
    South Africa 187; Samoa 93

    Tackles missed
    South Africa 54; Samoa 24

    Turnovers
    South Africa 16; Samoa 25

    Penalties conceded
    South Africa 10; Samoa 9

    Tackles [Made/Missed/Turnovers]
    Brussouw 27-5-2
    Matfield 18-3-0
    B du Plessis 17-5-3
    Burger 16-6-1
    M Steyn 16-7-0
    F Steyn 12-6-1
    Rossouw 12-3-2
    J du Plessis 12-5-2
    Mtawarira 12-2-0

    P Spies 4-1-0

    So what was Spies doing for 80 minutes?
    Making up the numbers?

  67. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    October 2nd, 2011 at 1:29 am Reply to this comment

    CLASSIC QUOTE

    Patrick Lambie:
    “All ankles are more or less the same size.”

    :lol:

  68. Timeo Timeo says:
    October 2nd, 2011 at 2:40 am Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 4:18 pm:

    Ambush marketing. Goes on all the time. The company that paid him to wear the mouth guard will happily pay the fine as the publicity is worth much more.

    Next time they should impose a heavy cut on Samoa’s share of the loot from the event. That will hurt.

  69. Timeo Timeo says:
    October 2nd, 2011 at 2:46 am Reply to this comment

    Perhaps those 5 small pacific Islands will break away from the evil IRB and hold their own World Cup in 2015.

    The 4 million and 200 thousand fans can watch it in their own ungodly time-zone and they can even ban the dropped goal.

    My money is on South Island to take it.

  70. The Year of the Cheetah its a 15 man game - embrace it! says:
    October 2nd, 2011 at 9:34 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Deon @ 12:24 pm:

    janee burger is elke game man of the match – wie gee rerig om hoeveel agterlyn bal hy butcher?

    of roussouw for that matter.

  71. The Year of the Cheetah its a 15 man game - embrace it! says:
    October 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 pm Reply to this comment

    Truth be told I really WANT to support these Boks. I have never had much of problem with Snor etc. On Thursday my whole family was clad in Bok jerseys and we did the patriotic thing and sang the anthem (my 1.3 year old daughter included).

    But then that second half starts and this terrible Bok disease steps in again.

    We dont play, and we have this arrogance that suggst we will always get away with it yet results in the last 2 years point to the opposite against good sides?

    Help me like these Boks please?

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