“Keep Divvy” – Naas

January 17, 2012
Posted by Morné

Springbok rugby legend Naas Botha on Monday said he saw no reason why current coach Peter de Villiers could not remain part of the Bok set up.

EWN News – Rafiq Wagiet

The announcement of Springbok coach will be made at the end of January, with de Villiers as one of the known candidates.

Botha said, “I would keep Peter [de Villiers] as part of the team because he must have learnt quite a number of things in the four years that he’s been there. You can’t just discard all that experience.”

He said the next coach must learn from the mistakes of the past.

“I think we’ve made mistakes. Nick [Mallett] made a mistake when he fired Gary Teichmann before the world cup. When you select a Springbok side, do yourself a favour, pick the guys who are in form and that’s the end of it.”

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43 Comments

  1. bok_in_oz bryce_in_oz says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 1:16 pm Reply to this comment

    Well I personally (in the capacity of new coach) would certainly have a few questions for him on a few levels it would be daft not to… but suggesting keeping him around is ludicrous…

    New start, new era, new team… Snor offers nothing in a coaching capacity, nor technical capacity and his purported ‘man-management’ skills were a shambles by the end…

  2. Kat Kat says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 1:19 pm Reply to this comment

    De Villiers is not the sort of guy that wants to work under another coach so “remain part of the Bok set up” is not an option unless he is the main coach. I honestly cannot see that happen. He learned a lot yes, but we know from whom he learned a lot, so why not then just appoint those guys in the first place? Make Matfield, Smit and Du Preez the coaching team then. Nope? Exactly. Please do it right this time. Get us H Meyer.

  3. Morné Morné says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 2:25 pm Reply to this comment

    IN other news, Irish Football Union says no approach has been made to them to release Gert Smal.

  4. PJLD is a LEGEND Provincejoulekkading says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 2:38 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Morné @ 2:25 pm: That should be the clincher the then

  5. Morné Morné says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 2:43 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Provincejoulekkading @ 2:38 pm:

    You would think so hey?

    But then again, SARU is SARU – they might even let him complete the 6N before he comes back…

  6. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 3:32 pm Reply to this comment

    I fully agree with Naas:
    Keep Divvy…
    - far away from any rugby set-up.

  7. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 3:36 pm Reply to this comment

    BTW my cousin saw a TV interview
    with Snor a while back.

    When questioned about the captaincy
    he said you must first and foremost
    select a captain who is first choice
    for his position, and then went on
    that Bok rugby cannot afford another
    John Smit case.

    Wise words, pity he did not follow
    them himself.

  8. bok_in_oz bryce_in_oz says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 3:57 pm Reply to this comment

    This is just going to drag on and on no doubt (The SARU coaching appointment)…

  9. Ollie_ Shark Attack Ollie says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 4:31 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 3:36 pm:

    It all depends on how much authority and input the coach allows from the captain. It’s not an exact science.

  10. The Year of the Cheetah The Year of the Cheetah says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 8:06 pm Reply to this comment

    Boer is it you who write the War arty in Rapport this Sunday or another man by the same surname?

  11. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 8:27 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 8:06 pm:

    War?
    South Pole yes.

  12. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 9:13 pm Reply to this comment

    It was a brilliant piece Boer.

    Well researched, factual, carefully crafted and totally undeserving of a place in a trashy toilet paper publication like Rapport…

    Brenden I am surprised at your mild response to this article …

    I expected at least apoplexy…

  13. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 9:40 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to DavidS @ 9:13 pm:

    Thanks.
    Nothing I like more than righting
    historical wrongs.
    Argus, Burger, BY, in their
    commemoration articles all followed
    the old BS Scott-was-a-hero line.
    8)
    Beats me how the Brits discarded
    Shackleton as a hero.
    Then again Scott had the backing
    of that old R4 note Sir Clements
    Markham and he was a Free Mason.
    And his wife, who did her part in
    falsifying the diary to suit her husband.
    (The same tart had an affair with
    Fridtjof Nansen while her husband was
    bungling around in the Antarctic.)

  14. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 10:50 pm Reply to this comment

    Can’t believe the base in the Antarctic is named Scott-Amundsen… with Scott’s name first…

  15. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 11:04 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to DavidS @ 10:50 pm:

    Nope. Strange enough they got this right:
    Amundsen-Scott.
    Google Fridtjof Nansen for an image -
    if I was a woman, he would have made
    my legs go lame.
    I suppose this is what happened to
    Kathleen Scott.
    :wink:

  16. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 11:06 pm Reply to this comment

    Shackleton?

    Might be him being half Irish?

  17. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    January 17th, 2012 at 11:28 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to DavidS @ 11:06 pm:

    I think so yes.
    Anyway, he went to the ends of the earth
    to get his Discovery crew home – including
    rowing a boat with a crew of two 800 miles
    to South Georgia.
    The guys on Elephant Island waited 137
    days for their salvation.

  18. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    January 18th, 2012 at 9:21 am Reply to this comment

    Apparently also not easy to get along with which may have not endeared him to his society of the time…

  19. The Year of the Cheetah The Year of the Cheetah says:
    January 18th, 2012 at 2:02 pm Reply to this comment

    Boer my apologies,

    I never read the piece but the oke next to me on the plane had that weekend section of the rapport on his lap and I only saw the picture and the authors name.

    I did not know you still write and will immediately go read the piece online now.

    Again my apologies.

  20. The Year of the Cheetah The Year of the Cheetah says:
    January 18th, 2012 at 2:38 pm Reply to this comment

    aggenee boer stuur asb link. Rapport update mos net die site elke keer as die coffee shop in foyer uit brandewyn vir die koffie uithardloop.

  21. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    January 18th, 2012 at 2:44 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 2:38 pm:

    Apologies? What for?

    Jy soek sleg:

    http://www.rapport.co.za/Weekliks/Nuus/POOL-STRYD-se-ploeteraar-20120114

  22. The Year of the Cheetah The Year of the Cheetah says:
    January 18th, 2012 at 3:07 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 2:44 pm:

    gaan tik jou naam by die search op rapport.com

    fokken 20 artikels het jou naam maar click jy daarop is dit `n ander ou.

    Thanks anyway

  23. The Year of the Cheetah The Year of the Cheetah says:
    January 18th, 2012 at 3:12 pm Reply to this comment

    aggeneee!

    en daar is dit – oom boer is toe `n ware historikus en duimsuig nie alles soos ek nie. Nou sal ek moet begin luister as die boer my kak gee oor staaltjies uit SA se verlede

    :(

    Goeie artikel. Net gisteraand die Top Gear ding gekyk oor noord pool ekspedisie en gewonder presies hoe mense al jare daar rondfok as daar plekke soos Frankryk bestaan!

    Dis mal

  24. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    January 18th, 2012 at 3:54 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 3:12 pm:

    Okay ek dink jou rugby kennis suck maar dit was fokken skerp!

  25. Timeo Timeo says:
    January 19th, 2012 at 4:52 am Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 2:44 pm:

    Who was first at the North Pole, South pole, Everest? Who paddled the Pacific in a row-boat or who spent 400 days in a snake pit?

    These may be astonishing feats but in the history of humanity they are mere curiosities. Scott’s story is compelling to Brits because he was a Brit and his story was told and it turned out to be compelling and have special meaning to Brits.
    Each nation or tribe finds their own heroes with whom they can identify and be inspired by. The myths have meaning to them and are stronger than the facts because people define themselves via those myths.

    I paraphrased the last line from:
    http://tonyhorwitz.com/books/voyage-long-and-strange.php

    good read also.

  26. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    January 19th, 2012 at 12:17 pm Reply to this comment

    The problem is when the myth gets sold at the cost of the greater hero… the successful hero.

    Scott has been immortalized to such an extent that there are children in South Africa today who believe he reached the South Pole before Amundsen.

    The voyages of Discovery’s firsts being forgotten is nonsense!

    Francis Drake
    Americo Vespucci
    Christopher Columbus
    Charles Lindbergh
    Vasco Da Gama
    Magellan
    Perry
    Armstrong
    Marco Polo
    Ernst Shackleton

    See

    It is universal…

    Not tribal…

    To contend otherwise is a lie.

  27. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    January 19th, 2012 at 1:05 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to DavidS @ 12:17 pm:

    Add Reinhold Messner to that list mate!!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Messner

    :bowdown:

  28. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    January 19th, 2012 at 1:29 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to DavidS @ 12:17 pm:

    That’s because Brits love the martyr,
    and Scott’s diary has lots of it and
    written in a poetic style and with all
    the bad bits censored. And the English
    world stretched around the earth.

    Plus the Victoran Age was fast coming to
    an end and the Brits really needed some
    hero figure.

    Amundsen’s diary was matter of fact.

    This quote of his sums it up quite nice:

    Victory awaits him, who has everything in order – luck we call it. Defeat is definitely due for him who has neglected to take the necessary precautions – bad luck we call it. ~ Roald Amundsen

    Part of his preparation on the Fram was a library
    with 3,000 books, records and a grammophone.

    His only ballsup was departing a few weeks too
    early, turning back after 4 days.
    And they had problems with their boots, which
    was eventually sorted out.

  29. The Year of the Cheetah The Year of the Cheetah says:
    January 19th, 2012 at 3:46 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to DavidS @ 3:54 pm:

    my rugby kennis? die ou wat die hele 2011 prakties reggeraai het beker vir beker?

    en so se die ou wat fokkol kon regraai en soos n katwuif tekere gegaan het elke keer as sy prophecies verkeerd bewys is?

    basta dit!

    :Rule 9:

  30. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    January 19th, 2012 at 6:10 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 3:46 pm:

    Katwyf, nie katwuif.

    Katwyf met kleintjies.

    :wink:

  31. Deon Deon says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 8:33 am Reply to this comment

    Asif SARU would listen to Naas. :roll:

  32. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 9:24 am Reply to this comment

    Reply to Deon @ 8:33 am:

    sounds like a Pakistani cricketer: Asif Saru :D

  33. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 12:37 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 3:46 pm:

    Is jy my regtig wil klap moet jy net reel dan sal ek seker maak ons Krav en MMA klasse is oop …

  34. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 12:38 pm Reply to this comment

    Jo that Reinhold Messner dude is apparently a god in mountaineering…

    And typically meticulous as a German…

  35. JT_BOKBEFOK! JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 12:53 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to DavidS @ 12:38 pm:

    Tyrolean!! technically Italien but South Tyrol is/was part of Tyrol!
    Tyrolean Independance is still a dream for some :whistling:

    The more I get into and learn about mountainieering the more I respect what Messner achieved! :respek: Solo without oxygin tank up everest :what:

  36. The Year of the Cheetah The Year of the Cheetah says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 1:01 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to DavidS @ 12:37 pm:

    nou nooi jy my uit sodat jou maatjies jou kan help as jy begin opgooi van die pyn?

    Ek is te jonk en te fiks – dit sal `n skending van menseregte wees om my teen jou te laat appelswaai.

    8)

  37. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 1:44 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to DavidS @ 12:37 pm:

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 1:01 pm:

    :handbag:

  38. The Year of the Cheetah The Year of the Cheetah says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 2:01 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 1:44 pm:

    dawie is die mofgat pers mannetjie, maar teken hom saam sy tjommies want lyk my nie hy is oop vir die “alleen agter die gymsaal” idee nie

    :lol:

  39. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 3:03 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 1:01 pm:

    Talk is cheap ou maat…

    MInd you ek sal jou nie te seer maak nie…

    Een D’arcy,… dan tap jy en apologize en ons begin met ‘n nuwe blaadji…

    Dis in teenstelling met daai kont cab wie ek nie sal laat uit tap nie…

  40. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 3:04 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 2:01 pm:

    Oos Rand reels is nie Porra / Leb / Strandloper reels nie…

  41. DavidS Champion Supporter DavidS says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 3:27 pm Reply to this comment

    Two of my classmates are doctors and one a nurse…

    They’ll be there to help clean up whatever of you remains…

  42. bok_in_oz bryce_in_oz says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 4:30 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to Boertjie @ 2:44 pm:

    Great read mate…

  43. Boertjie Boertjie says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 5:48 pm Reply to this comment

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 4:30 pm:

    Thanks!
    The hardest I’ve ever worked on
    research and writing, but more
    than worth the experience.

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