Player stats Round 6

April 4, 2012
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The season heads towards the mid-point and the leader-boards starting to make some interesting reading.

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SEASON 2012 PLAYER STATS (ROUND 6)
Most Points
1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 98
2. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 86
3. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 73
3. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 73
5. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 71
6. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 65
7. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 59
8. James O’Connor (Rebels) 53
8. Michael Harris (Reds) 53
10. James Stannard (Force) 51
11. Daniel Halangahu (Waratahs) 45
11. David Harvey (Force) 45
13. Tyler Bleyendaal (Crusaders) 42
14. Colin Slade (Highlanders) 37
14. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 37
16. Butch James (Lions) 34
17. Gareth Anscombe (Blues) 33
18. Chris Noakes (Highlanders) 27
19. Tom Taylor (Crusaders) 26
20. Bjorn Basson (Bulls) 25
Most Tries
1. Bjorn Basson (Bulls) 5
2. Andre Taylor (Hurricanes) 4
2. Dom Shipperley (Reds) 4
2. Riaan Viljoen (Sharks) 4
2. Sona Taumalolo (Chiefs) 4
2. TJ Perenara (Hurricanes) 4
7. Aaron Smith (Highlanders) 3
7. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 3
7. Cory Jane (Hurricanes) 3
7. James Stannard (Force) 3
7. Lwazi Mvovo (Sharks) 3
7. Robert Fruean (Crusaders) 3
7. Tom Carter (Waratahs) 3
7. Tom Kingston (Waratahs) 3
7. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs) 3
7. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 3
17. Israel Dagg (Crusaders) 2
17. Jaco Taute (Lions) 2
17. Phil Burleigh (Highlanders) 2
17. Wynand Olivier (Bulls) 2
Most Conversions
1. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 14
2. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 12
3. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 11
4. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 10
4. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 10
6. David Harvey (Force) 8
7. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 7
8. Chris Noakes (Highlanders) 6
8. Daniel Halangahu (Waratahs) 6
10. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 5
11. Brendan McKibbin (Waratahs) 4
11. Butch James (Lions) 4
11. Colin Slade (Highlanders) 4
11. Gareth Anscombe (Blues) 4
11. Michael Harris (Reds) 4
11. Tom Taylor (Crusaders) 4
17. Danny Cipriani (Rebels) 3
17. Frederic Michalak (Sharks) 3
17. James O’Connor (Rebels) 3
17. James Stannard (Force) 3
Most Penalty Goals
1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 22
2. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 21
3. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 18
4. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 17
4. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 17
6. Michael Harris (Reds) 15
7. James O’Connor (Rebels) 14
7. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 14
9. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 13
10. Tyler Bleyendaal (Crusaders) 12
11. Daniel Halangahu (Waratahs) 11
11. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 11
13. James Stannard (Force) 10
14. David Harvey (Force) 8
15. Butch James (Lions) 7
15. Colin Slade (Highlanders) 7
15. Lachie Munro (Blues) 7
18. Tom Taylor (Crusaders) 6
19. Gareth Anscombe (Blues) 5
19. Michael Hobbs (Blues) 5
Most Drop Goals
1. Colin Slade (Highlanders) 1
1. Gary van Aswegen (Stormers) 1
1. Jacques Coetzee (Lions) 1
1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 1
1. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 1
Most Tackles Made
1. Marcell Coetzee (Sharks) 102
2. Heinrich Brussow (Cheetahs) 93
3. David Pocock (Force) 86
4. Tom Chamberlain (Rebels) 81
5. Brodie Retallick (Chiefs) 79
5. Luke Jones (Rebels) 79
7. Liam Messam (Chiefs) 75
8. Gareth Delve (Rebels) 74
8. Jeremy Thrush (Hurricanes) 74
8. Matt Todd (Crusaders) 74
11. Ben Alexander (Brumbies) 72
12. James Horwill (Reds) 71
12. Philip van der Walt (Cheetahs) 71
14. Jack Lam (Hurricanes) 70
15. Dale Chadwick (Sharks) 69
15. Michael Hooper (Brumbies) 69
17. George Whitelock (Crusaders) 67
17. Sam Carter (Brumbies) 67
17. Siyamthanda Kolisi (Stormers) 67
20. Faifili Levave (Hurricanes) 66
Most Runs
1. Nasi Manu (Highlanders) 86
2. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 67
3. Nathan Sharpe (Force) 65
4. Marcell Coetzee (Sharks) 64
5. David Pocock (Force) 63
6. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 60
7. Adriaan Strauss (Cheetahs) 59
8. Andrew Hore (Highlanders) 56
9. Tamati Ellison (Highlanders) 54
10. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 52
11. Bismarck du Plessis (Sharks) 50
12. Adam Ashley-Cooper (Waratahs) 47
12. Jamie Mackintosh (Highlanders) 47
14. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 46
14. Jaco Taute (Lions) 46
16. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 45
17. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 44
17. Victor Vito (Hurricanes) 44
19. Josh Strauss (Lions) 43
19. Liam Messam (Chiefs) 43
Most Run Metres
1. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 529
2. Andre Taylor (Hurricanes) 489
3. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 482
4. Tamati Ellison (Highlanders) 462
5. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 433
6. Tom Kingston (Waratahs) 399
7. Nasi Manu (Highlanders) 386
8. Sonny Bill Williams (Chiefs) 385
9. Hennie Daniller (Cheetahs) 379
10. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 372
11. Adam Ashley-Cooper (Waratahs) 370
12. Luke Morahan (Reds) 361
12. Robbie Robinson (Chiefs) 361
14. Lwazi Mvovo (Sharks) 351
14. Nick Cummins (Force) 351
16. Jaco Taute (Lions) 342
16. Riaan Viljoen (Sharks) 342
18. Marcell Coetzee (Sharks) 338
19. Julian Savea (Hurricanes) 336
20. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 327
Most Kicks
1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 62
2. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 44
3. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 43
4. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 42
5. James Stannard (Force) 39
6. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 35
7. Riaan Viljoen (Sharks) 33
8. Dewaldt Duvenhage (Stormers) 32
9. Andre Taylor (Hurricanes) 30
10. Andrew Ellis (Crusaders) 29
11. Berrick Barnes (Waratahs) 25
11. Brett Sheehan (Force) 25
13. James O’Connor (Rebels) 24
13. Will Genia (Reds) 24
15. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 23
15. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Chiefs) 23
17. David Harvey (Force) 22
18. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 21
18. Francois Hougaard (Bulls) 21
18. Robbie Robinson (Chiefs) 21
Most Kick Metres
1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 2300
2. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 1801
3. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 1691
4. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 1616
5. James Stannard (Force) 1485
6. Andre Taylor (Hurricanes) 1095
7. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 1020
8. Andrew Ellis (Crusaders) 1004
9. James O’Connor (Rebels) 1001
10. Dewaldt Duvenhage (Stormers) 981
11. Riaan Viljoen (Sharks) 972
12. Berrick Barnes (Waratahs) 863
13. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 849
14. David Harvey (Force) 825
15. Robbie Robinson (Chiefs) 815
16. Lachie Munro (Blues) 757
17. Ben Seymour (Force) 753
18. Will Genia (Reds) 752
19. Danny Cipriani (Rebels) 721
20. Jesse Mogg (Brumbies) 718
Most Pick And Drives
1. Andrew Hore (Highlanders) 32
2. Sona Taumalolo (Chiefs) 17
3. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 16
4. Liam Messam (Chiefs) 15
4. Nasi Manu (Highlanders) 15
6. David Pocock (Force) 13
7. Mahonri Schwalger (Chiefs) 12
8. Benn Robinson (Waratahs) 11
8. Chris King (Highlanders) 11
8. Derick Minnie (Lions) 11
8. Nathan Sharpe (Force) 11
12. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 10
12. Chris Lowrey (Blues) 10
12. Tom McCartney (Blues) 10
15. Adriaan Strauss (Cheetahs) 9
15. James Slipper (Reds) 9
15. Jamie Mackintosh (Highlanders) 9
15. WP Nel (Cheetahs) 9
19. Brodie Retallick (Chiefs) 8
19. Josh Bekhuis (Highlanders) 8
Most Try Assists
1. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs) 4
1. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 4
3. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 3
3. Francois Hougaard (Bulls) 3
3. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 3
3. Julian Savea (Hurricanes) 3
3. Tim Whitehead (Sharks) 3
3. Will Genia (Reds) 3
9. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 2
9. Adam Ashley-Cooper (Waratahs) 2
9. Brett Sheehan (Force) 2
9. Israel Dagg (Crusaders) 2
9. JJ Engelbrecht (Bulls) 2
9. Nic White (Brumbies) 2
9. Odwa Ndungane (Sharks) 2
9. Sarel Pretorius (Waratahs) 2
9. Tamati Ellison (Highlanders) 2
18. Ben Tapuai (Reds) 1
18. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 1
18. Ryno Benjamin (Cheetahs) 1
Most Linebreaks
1. Andre Taylor (Hurricanes) 6
2. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 5
2. Sona Taumalolo (Chiefs) 5
4. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 4
4. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 4
4. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 4
4. Dom Shipperley (Reds) 4
4. Israel Dagg (Crusaders) 4
4. James Stannard (Force) 4
4. Luke Morahan (Reds) 4
4. Nick Cummins (Force) 4
4. Piet Van Zyl (Cheetahs) 4
4. Robbie Robinson (Chiefs) 4
4. Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs) 4
4. Tom Carter (Waratahs) 4
4. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs) 4
4. Wynand Olivier (Bulls) 4
4. Zac Guildford (Crusaders) 4
19. John Hardie (Highlanders) 3
19. Phil Burleigh (Highlanders) 3
Most Linebreak Assists
1. Will Genia (Reds) 6
2. Brett Sheehan (Force) 4
3. Ashley Johnson (Cheetahs) 3
3. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 3
3. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 3
3. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 3
3. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs) 3
8. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 2
8. Akona Ndungane (Bulls) 2
8. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 2
8. Chris Noakes (Highlanders) 2
8. Danny Cipriani (Rebels) 2
8. Jaco Taute (Lions) 2
8. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 2
8. Lima Sopoaga (Highlanders) 2
8. Lwazi Mvovo (Sharks) 2
8. Robbie Robinson (Chiefs) 2
8. Sarel Pretorius (Waratahs) 2
8. Tamati Ellison (Highlanders) 2
8. Tom Taylor (Crusaders) 2
Most Offloads
1. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 13
2. Sonny Bill Williams (Chiefs) 12
3. Andre Taylor (Hurricanes) 9
3. Ben Tapuai (Reds) 9
3. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 9
6. JP Pietersen (Sharks) 8
6. Shaun Treeby (Highlanders) 8
8. Ben Mowen (Brumbies) 7
8. Digby Ioane (Reds) 7
8. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 7
8. Mark Gerrard (Rebels) 7
8. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 7
8. Riaan Viljoen (Sharks) 7
8. Robbie Robinson (Chiefs) 7
8. Rod Davies (Reds) 7
8. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Chiefs) 7
8. Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs) 7
18. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 6
18. Conrad Smith (Hurricanes) 6
18. Jaco Taute (Lions) 6
Most Pilfers
1. David Pocock (Force) 7
2. Liam Gill (Reds) 5
3. Andrew Hore (Highlanders) 3
3. Ben May (Hurricanes) 3
3. Coenrad Oosthuizen (Cheetahs) 3
3. Heinrich Brussow (Cheetahs) 3
3. Michael Hooper (Brumbies) 3
3. Nasi Manu (Highlanders) 3
9. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 2
9. Bismarck du Plessis (Sharks) 2
9. Chris Alcock (Waratahs) 2
9. Daniel Braid (Blues) 2
9. Deon van Rensburg (Lions) 2
9. Derick Minnie (Lions) 2
9. Faifili Levave (Hurricanes) 2
9. JP Pietersen (Sharks) 2
9. Marcell Coetzee (Sharks) 2
9. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 2
9. Rodney Blake (Rebels) 2
9. Scott Higginbotham (Reds) 2
Most Lineouts Won
1. Nathan Sharpe (Force) 36
2. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 33
3. Andries Bekker (Stormers) 26
3. Juandre Kruger (Bulls) 26
5. Hugh Pyle (Rebels) 22
6. Scott Higginbotham (Reds) 21
7. Ben Mowen (Brumbies) 18
7. Franco van der Merwe (Lions) 18
7. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 18
10. Izak van der Westhuizen (Cheetahs) 17
10. Sam Whitelock (Crusaders) 17
12. Brodie Retallick (Chiefs) 16
12. James Horwill (Reds) 16
12. Victor Vito (Hurricanes) 16
15. Josh Bekhuis (Highlanders) 15
15. Kieran Read (Crusaders) 15
17. Ali Williams (Blues) 14
17. Anthony Boric (Blues) 14
17. Jeremy Thrush (Hurricanes) 14
20. David Dennis (Waratahs) 13
Most Penalties Conceded
1. Derick Minnie (Lions) 12
2. Bismarck du Plessis (Sharks) 11
2. WP Nel (Cheetahs) 11
4. Dean Greyling (Bulls) 10
4. Nathan Sharpe (Force) 10
6. Dean Mumm (Waratahs) 9
6. James Horwill (Reds) 9
6. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 9
9. Ben May (Hurricanes) 8
9. Benn Robinson (Waratahs) 8
9. David Pocock (Force) 8
12. Ben Daley (Reds) 7
12. Ben Tameifuna (Chiefs) 7
12. Coenrad Oosthuizen (Cheetahs) 7
12. Daniel Braid (Blues) 7
12. James Slipper (Reds) 7
12. Jason Eaton (Hurricanes) 7
12. Jeffery Toomaga-Allen (Hurricanes) 7
12. Sekope Kepu (Waratahs) 7
12. Werner Kruger (Bulls) 7
Most Turnovers
1. Corey Flynn (Crusaders) 16
2. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 15
2. Adriaan Strauss (Cheetahs) 15
2. Bismarck du Plessis (Sharks) 15
2. Callie Visagie (Lions) 15
6. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 14
6. Will Genia (Reds) 14
8. Dean Mumm (Waratahs) 13
8. Kieran Read (Crusaders) 13
10. James Hanson (Reds) 12
10. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 12
10. Keven Mealamu (Blues) 12
10. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 12
14. Andrew Hore (Highlanders) 11
14. Francois Hougaard (Bulls) 11
14. Tamati Ellison (Highlanders) 11
17. Ali Williams (Blues) 10
17. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 10
17. Robbie Robinson (Chiefs) 10
17. Stephen Moore (Brumbies) 10
Most Missed Tackles
1. Rob Horne (Waratahs) 20
2. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 18
3. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 17
4. Conrad Smith (Hurricanes) 15
4. Willem Alberts (Sharks) 15
4. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs) 15
7. Daniel Halangahu (Waratahs) 14
7. James Stannard (Force) 14
7. Mark Gerrard (Rebels) 14
7. Nick Phipps (Rebels) 14
11. Andries Strauss (Cheetahs) 13
11. Benson Stanley (Blues) 13
11. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 13
11. Bismarck du Plessis (Sharks) 13
11. Luke Morahan (Reds) 13
11. Marcell Coetzee (Sharks) 13
17. Dale Chadwick (Sharks) 12
17. Kieran Read (Crusaders) 12
17. Laurie Weeks (Rebels) 12
17. Peter Grant (Stormers) 12

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29 Comments

  1. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    Hi Bryce – loads of Saffas in the “right” stats these days :wave:

    Here the betting odds for this weekend:
    Thursday, April 05, 2012
    11:40 AM
    Rebels 3.10
    Blues 1.35
    (Blues are very unpredictable so Rebels could be worth a bet at home!?)

    Friday, April 06, 2012
    9:35 AM
    Hurricanes 1.90
    Sharks 1.90

    11:40 AM
    Reds 1.70
    Brumbies 2.15
    (Brumbies should fancy an upset against a Reds team reeling at the moment)
    1:40 PM
    Western Force 2.50
    Chiefs 1.50

    Saturday, April 07, 2012
    9:35 AM
    Highlanders 1.90
    Stormers 1.90

    3:00 PM
    Cheetahs 1.50
    Lions 2.50
    (Jetlagged Cheetahs might be there for the taking by the lions…)
    5:05 PM
    Bulls 1.60
    Crusaders 2.30
    (Saders always good for a win in SA…)

  2. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 9:12 am

    Goosen and Adriaan Strauss everywhere.

    I hope they continue in this vein.

  3. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 9:12 am:

    Unfortunately with Strauss also in ‘turnovers conceded’ and right up there with ‘missed tackles’…

  4. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 9:12 am:

    For sure they are… although not in the ‘pick-n-drives’ (something that has made the Highlanders this season so far)…

    Could not agree more with the ‘worthwhile’ tips… albeit I’m loathe to tip the Rebels as I’ll be there!

  5. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:45 am:

    I dont see the turnover conceded stat?

    I do see he made the third most turnovers. Not conceded?

    Are you sorry?

  6. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:47 am:

    Pick and drives are down to game-plan and If your team are not using them you will not be on that list.

    SA teams use the 1st reciever crash ball (rocket ball) more than the pick & drive so that explains the stat imo.

  7. avatar Ollie says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 10:21 am

    Hmmm, most penalties conceded has Saffa’s at top 4 :?

  8. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 9:54 am:

    No mate… the ‘turnovers’ column refers to ‘turnovers conceded’… you’re thinking of ‘pilfers’ and that has it’s own column…

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 9:58 am:

    Yep… Sharks used to be All-Black-esque in that dept in Super Rugby during their hey-day…

    That opening game between the Chiefs and Highlanders was a magic example…

  9. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 10:24 am:

    I hope they try the pick & drive all the time v Stormers… Easy to defend and will give loads of turn-ovre opportunities.

  10. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 10:39 am

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 10:30 am:

    I’m not talking in the ‘old Cheetahs’ style… more a ‘pick and go’ at pace like the AB’s (and Shark’s of old)… defenders getting sucked in/cleared out… opening gaps all over the place for backs running off the shoulder to hit angles…

  11. avatar DavidS says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    The guy in the drop goal column of thye Lions is Andries Coetzee not Jacques Coetzee….

  12. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 10:39 am:

    whats your problem with the Cheetahs? come out, say it Ozzie – I have a bakkie full of boers here ready to kneecap you.

  13. avatar Pokkel says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    I would like to know what constitutes a pilfer exactly.

    The number is that column just doesn’t seem right.

    Coenie and Brussow only 3 in 6 games.

    Bismarck only 2 in 6 games.

    It doesn’t seem right.

  14. avatar Pokkel says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Adam Thomson only 2? :Dawie:

  15. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Reply to Pokkel @ 12:19 pm:

    just thought of the same thing. I reckon “turnovers” and pilfers” are both stealing the ball. A pilfer is just outright man on man stealing maybe?

    Does not make sense. Clarity anyone?

  16. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    Reply to Pokkel @ 12:22 pm:

    yes and Thompson (according to Bryce) being this idiot who has lost 16 balls in contact? Cannot see it.

  17. avatar Pokkel says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Who is the source of the stats?

  18. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    Reply to Pokkel @ 12:41 pm: morne :soek:

  19. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Reply to Pokkel @ 12:41 pm:

    poephol en finger ltd.

  20. avatar Pokkel says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Reply to Jacques(Bunny) @ 1:18 pm: Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 1:25 pm:

    Ja nee ek is seker Morné sit met ‘n pen en papier en maak notas deur die game. :yeahright:

  21. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Reply to Pokkel @ 12:41 pm:

    It’s Statspro… I used them last year and they supply the ARU almost every genre/sporting code and newspaper in Aus…

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 12:25 pm:

    “”””
    Conceded

    Andrew Sports Data
    Andrewm@sportsdata.com.au
    +61418110077

    On 04/04/2012, at 11:26 AM, “bryce XXXXX” wrote:

    Hi Andrew

    We are debating your ‘turnover’ stats listed below on rugbyheaven?

    Are they turnovers ‘made’ or turnovers ‘conceded’?

    http://livescores.smh.com.au/rugby/super15/player-stats.html?refresh=1333502493533

    Thanks in advance

    Bryce””””

  22. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    Pity there is no contact at the SMH to find out more and the guy who used to work for Statspro and runs http://www.rugbystats.com.au (same stats) has been uncontactable…

  23. avatar Pokkel says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 2:10 pm:

    I’m not questioning the stats as much as I would like to know how they define a pilfer.

    I don’t really have time now but it would be interesting to compare it to verusco
    http://www.verusco.com/verusco_stats_portal.php?compid=1&yearid=13&weekid=0&gameid=0

  24. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Clearly the reason there are so many hookers there is that balls ‘not straight’ and ‘lost’ on LO throws count…

    If you look at the Brumbies v Sharks game… Stephen Moore had three ‘turnovers’ and then if you go to LO’s there is one ‘not straight’ and another ‘lost’ and it lists another at ‘ruck and maul’…

    http://www.rugbystats.com.au/matches/rugby/match15307.html

  25. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Reply to Pokkel @ 2:17 pm:

    Yep… most those open-siders (Brussouw for one) have ‘pilfered’ more ball than stated in the sense that I would have understood it…

  26. avatar Pokkel says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 2:24 pm:

    That is good to know. I suppose if you want to interpret these stats you also need to know the criteria used or definition thereof.

  27. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    Reply to Pokkel @ 2:29 pm:

    Definite difference in some aspects and not so much in others between the two… I suppose it comes down to the quality of the ‘bean-counters’ during the game…

    http://www.verusco.com/verusco_stats_portal.php?compid=1&yearid=13&weekid=0&gameid=0

    Verusco don’t give as extensive ‘free’ data so it’s a pity there is no ‘pilfer’ or ‘turnover’ stat from Verusco… although I’m sure Morne said he gets them emailed to him?

  28. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 12:16 pm:

    Nothing other than their shite defence… plenty of my favourite players in there starting with Adriaan…

  29. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 4th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 2:35 pm:

    Quick look at Versusco… their ‘tackles made’ column is ‘total tackles’… the above Sportsdata (statspro) listed above breaks it down into ‘tackles made’ as meaning ‘completed tackles’ and then they list ‘tackles missed’… those added together bring the two sources within an inch (I used Marcell as an example)…

    For that reason I’ll stick to Sportsdata for their top 20 lists and http://www.rugbystats.com (also Sportsdata) for breaking it even further down into far more extensive sets… for eg you can see an individual’s tackles broken even further into missed, made and ineffective…

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