Season 2012 Player Stats (Round 14)

May 31, 2012
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All the statistical leaders: most points, tries, runs and more.

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Most Points
1. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 184
2. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 165
3. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 158
4. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 145
5. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 128
6. Tom Taylor (Crusaders) 123
7. Michael Harris (Reds) 111
8. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 109
9. Gareth Anscombe (Blues) 102
10. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 97
11. Brendan McKibbin (Waratahs) 94
12. David Harvey (Force) 87
13. James O’Connor (Rebels) 82
14. Peter Grant (Stormers) 80
15. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 74
16. Chris Noakes (Highlanders) 69
17. Andre Taylor (Hurricanes) 55
18. Mike Delany (Highlanders) 54
19. James Stannard (Force) 51
20. Frederic Michalak (Sharks) 49
Most Tries
1. Andre Taylor (Hurricanes) 10
2. Bjorn Basson (Bulls) 8
2. Sona Taumalolo (Chiefs) 8
4. Lwazi Mvovo (Sharks) 7
4. TJ Perenara (Hurricanes) 7
6. Dom Shipperley (Reds) 6
6. Julian Savea (Hurricanes) 6
6. Robert Fruean (Crusaders) 6
6. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs) 6
10. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 5
10. Cooper Vuna (Rebels) 5
10. Gio Aplon (Stormers) 5
10. Henry Speight (Brumbies) 5
10. Lelia Masaga (Chiefs) 5
15. Bryan Habana (Stormers) 4
15. Conrad Smith (Hurricanes) 4
15. Joseph Tomane (Brumbies) 4
15. Tom Kingston (Waratahs) 4
15. Zac Guildford (Crusaders) 4
15. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 4
Most Conversions
1. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 29
2. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 28
2. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 28
4. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 18
5. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 17
5. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 17
7. Brendan McKibbin (Waratahs) 16
8. Michael Harris (Reds) 15
9. Tom Taylor (Crusaders) 14
10. Chris Noakes (Highlanders) 13
10. Gareth Anscombe (Blues) 13
10. Kurtley Beale (Rebels) 13
13. Frederic Michalak (Sharks) 12
14. David Harvey (Force) 11
15. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 10
16. Daniel Carter (Crusaders) 9
17. Peter Grant (Stormers) 8
18. Daniel Halangahu (Waratahs) 6
18. James O’Connor (Rebels) 6
18. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 6
Most Penalty Goals
1. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 38
2. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 33
3. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 31
4. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 30
4. Tom Taylor (Crusaders) 30
6. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 29
7. Michael Harris (Reds) 26
8. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 25
8. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 25
10. Gareth Anscombe (Blues) 21
11. David Harvey (Force) 20
11. James O’Connor (Rebels) 20
13. Brendan McKibbin (Waratahs) 19
14. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 18
14. Peter Grant (Stormers) 18
16. Mike Delany (Highlanders) 16
17. Tyler Bleyendaal (Crusaders) 12
18. Chris Noakes (Highlanders) 11
18. Daniel Halangahu (Waratahs) 11
18. Sias Ebersohn (Cheetahs) 11
Most Drop Goals
1. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 3
2. Colin Slade (Highlanders) 1
2. Daniel Carter (Crusaders) 1
2. Gareth Anscombe (Blues) 1
2. Gary van Aswegen (Stormers) 1
2. Jacques Coetzee (Lions) 1
2. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 1
2. Michael Harris (Reds) 1
Most Tackles Made
1. Marcell Coetzee (Sharks) 194
2. David Pocock (Force) 186
3. Heinrich Brussow (Cheetahs) 178
3. Matt Todd (Crusaders) 178
5. Philip van der Walt (Cheetahs) 162
6. Liam Gill (Reds) 160
7. Michael Hooper (Brumbies) 158
8. Siyamthanda Kolisi (Stormers) 155
9. Brodie Retallick (Chiefs) 154
10. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 149
11. Gareth Delve (Rebels) 144
12. Jeremy Thrush (Hurricanes) 142
12. Liam Messam (Chiefs) 142
14. James Horwill (Reds) 141
15. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 140
16. Luke Jones (Rebels) 139
17. Anton Bresler (Sharks) 137
17. George Whitelock (Crusaders) 137
19. Faifili Levave (Hurricanes) 136
20. Derick Minnie (Lions) 134
Most Runs
1. Nasi Manu (Highlanders) 164
2. Nathan Sharpe (Force) 139
3. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 130
4. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 128
5. Adriaan Strauss (Cheetahs) 124
6. Marcell Coetzee (Sharks) 123
7. David Pocock (Force) 117
8. Tamati Ellison (Highlanders) 113
9. Coenrad Oosthuizen (Cheetahs) 112
10. Wycliff Palu (Waratahs) 107
11. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 103
12. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 102
13. Sonny Bill Williams (Chiefs) 100
14. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 98
14. Stephen Moore (Brumbies) 98
16. Hennie Daniller (Cheetahs) 97
17. Josh Strauss (Lions) 96
17. Liam Messam (Chiefs) 96
19. Jaco Taute (Lions) 95
20. Pierre Spies (Bulls) 93
Most Run Metres
1. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 1265
2. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 999
3. Andre Taylor (Hurricanes) 995
4. Tamati Ellison (Highlanders) 920
5. Sonny Bill Williams (Chiefs) 895
6. Nasi Manu (Highlanders) 797
7. Julian Savea (Hurricanes) 781
8. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 768
9. Alfie Mafi (Force) 764
10. Jaco Taute (Lions) 758
11. Zac Guildford (Crusaders) 752
12. Hennie Daniller (Cheetahs) 733
13. Adam Ashley-Cooper (Waratahs) 716
14. Lwazi Mvovo (Sharks) 712
14. Robert Fruean (Crusaders) 712
16. Nick Cummins (Force) 681
17. Jesse Mogg (Brumbies) 673
18. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 668
18. Tom Kingston (Waratahs) 668
20. Kurtley Beale (Rebels) 662
Most Kicks
1. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 119
2. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 107
3. Berrick Barnes (Waratahs) 106
4. Will Genia (Reds) 105
5. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 85
6. Nic White (Brumbies) 75
7. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 74
7. Peter Grant (Stormers) 74
9. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 73
10. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 70
11. Jesse Mogg (Brumbies) 69
12. Andrew Ellis (Crusaders) 67
12. Dewaldt Duvenhage (Stormers) 67
14. David Harvey (Force) 65
15. Francois Hougaard (Bulls) 58
16. Gareth Anscombe (Blues) 57
17. Charl Mcleod (Sharks) 54
17. Riaan Viljoen (Sharks) 54
19. Kurtley Beale (Rebels) 53
20. Brett Sheehan (Force) 52
Most Kick Metres
1. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 4986
2. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 4274
3. Berrick Barnes (Waratahs) 3803
4. Will Genia (Reds) 3352
5. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 3142
6. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 2813
7. Peter Grant (Stormers) 2764
8. Nic White (Brumbies) 2603
9. Jesse Mogg (Brumbies) 2585
10. David Harvey (Force) 2561
11. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 2475
12. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 2385
13. Andrew Ellis (Crusaders) 2242
14. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 2026
14. Gareth Anscombe (Blues) 2026
16. Dewaldt Duvenhage (Stormers) 1916
17. Kurtley Beale (Rebels) 1787
18. Francois Hougaard (Bulls) 1722
19. Daniel Carter (Crusaders) 1709
20. Andries Coetzee (Lions) 1702
Most Pick And Drives
1. Andrew Hore (Highlanders) 45
2. Sona Taumalolo (Chiefs) 36
3. David Pocock (Force) 35
4. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 32
4. Nasi Manu (Highlanders) 32
6. Liam Messam (Chiefs) 29
7. Mahonri Schwalger (Chiefs) 28
8. James Horwill (Reds) 26
8. Nathan Sharpe (Force) 26
8. Wycliff Palu (Waratahs) 26
11. WP Nel (Cheetahs) 22
12. Adriaan Strauss (Cheetahs) 21
12. Benn Robinson (Waratahs) 21
12. Rodney Blake (Rebels) 21
12. Scott Fardy (Brumbies) 21
16. Derick Minnie (Lions) 20
16. Liam Gill (Reds) 20
18. Tanerau Latimer (Chiefs) 19
19. Hikawera Elliot (Chiefs) 18
19. Stephen Moore (Brumbies) 18
Most Try Assists
1. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 8
1. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 8
3. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs) 7
4. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 6
5. Adam Ashley-Cooper (Waratahs) 5
5. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 5
5. Israel Dagg (Crusaders) 5
5. Kurtley Beale (Rebels) 5
5. Tim Bateman (Hurricanes) 5
5. Will Genia (Reds) 5
11. Conrad Smith (Hurricanes) 4
11. Francois Hougaard (Bulls) 4
11. Julian Savea (Hurricanes) 4
11. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 4
11. Nic White (Brumbies) 4
11. Zac Guildford (Crusaders) 4
17. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 3
17. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 3
17. Riaan Viljoen (Sharks) 3
17. Tim Whitehead (Sharks) 3
Most Linebreaks
1. Andre Taylor (Hurricanes) 15
2. Sona Taumalolo (Chiefs) 12
3. Luke Morahan (Reds) 10
4. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 9
4. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 9
4. Robert Fruean (Crusaders) 9
7. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 8
7. Israel Dagg (Crusaders) 8
7. Lelia Masaga (Chiefs) 8
7. Napolioni Nalaga (Force) 8
7. Piet Van Zyl (Cheetahs) 8
7. Rene Ranger (Blues) 8
7. Sonny Bill Williams (Chiefs) 8
7. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs) 8
15. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 7
15. Akona Ndungane (Bulls) 7
15. Julian Savea (Hurricanes) 7
15. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 7
15. Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs) 7
15. Zac Guildford (Crusaders) 7
Most Linebreak Assists
1. Will Genia (Reds) 10
2. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs) 9
3. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 8
4. Berrick Barnes (Waratahs) 5
4. Brett Sheehan (Force) 5
4. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 5
4. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 5
4. Israel Dagg (Crusaders) 5
4. Nic White (Brumbies) 5
10. Alfie Mafi (Force) 4
10. Andrew Ellis (Crusaders) 4
10. Andrew Horrell (Chiefs) 4
10. Ashley Johnson (Cheetahs) 4
10. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 4
10. Julian Savea (Hurricanes) 4
10. Kurtley Beale (Rebels) 4
10. Ma’a Nonu (Blues) 4
10. Sonny Bill Williams (Chiefs) 4
10. Zac Guildford (Crusaders) 4
10. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 4
Most Offloads
1. Sonny Bill Williams (Chiefs) 26
2. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 20
3. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 18
4. Andre Taylor (Hurricanes) 17
5. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 16
6. Israel Dagg (Crusaders) 15
7. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 14
7. Ashley Johnson (Cheetahs) 14
7. Mark Gerrard (Rebels) 14
7. Wycliff Palu (Waratahs) 14
11. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 13
11. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 13
11. Ma’a Nonu (Blues) 13
11. Rene Ranger (Blues) 13
11. Robert Fruean (Crusaders) 13
11. Winston Stanley (Force) 13
17. Conrad Smith (Hurricanes) 12
17. Lwazi Mvovo (Sharks) 12
17. Rod Davies (Reds) 12
17. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Chiefs) 12
Most Pilfers
1. Liam Gill (Reds) 15
2. Coenrad Oosthuizen (Cheetahs) 10
2. Michael Hooper (Brumbies) 10
4. David Pocock (Force) 9
5. Luke Braid (Blues) 7
6. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 6
7. Andrew Hore (Highlanders) 5
7. Chris Alcock (Waratahs) 5
7. Cobus Grobbelaar (Lions) 5
10. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 4
10. Derick Minnie (Lions) 4
10. Faifili Levave (Hurricanes) 4
10. Heinrich Brussow (Cheetahs) 4
10. James Haskell (Highlanders) 4
10. Karl Lowe (Hurricanes) 4
10. Nasi Manu (Highlanders) 4
10. Rene Ranger (Blues) 4
18. Beau Robinson (Reds) 3
18. Jacques Botes (Sharks) 3
18. Jason Rutledge (Highlanders) 3
Most Lineouts Won
1. Nathan Sharpe (Force) 76
2. Andries Bekker (Stormers) 62
3. Franco van der Merwe (Lions) 60
4. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 54
5. Hugh Pyle (Rebels) 51
6. Juandre Kruger (Bulls) 49
7. Scott Higginbotham (Reds) 45
8. Izak van der Westhuizen (Cheetahs) 44
9. Brodie Retallick (Chiefs) 39
10. Ben Mowen (Brumbies) 37
11. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 35
12. Ali Williams (Blues) 34
12. Craig Clarke (Chiefs) 34
14. David Dennis (Waratahs) 33
14. Sam Whitelock (Crusaders) 33
14. Steven Sykes (Sharks) 33
17. Anton Bresler (Sharks) 30
17. Eben Etzebeth (Stormers) 30
17. Jeremy Thrush (Hurricanes) 30
20. Toby Lynn (Force) 29
Most Penalties Conceded
1. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 24
2. Coenrad Oosthuizen (Cheetahs) 21
2. Derick Minnie (Lions) 21
4. Dean Mumm (Waratahs) 20
5. Dean Greyling (Bulls) 19
6. Salesi Ma’afu (Force) 18
6. Sona Taumalolo (Chiefs) 18
6. Werner Kruger (Bulls) 18
9. Bismarck du Plessis (Sharks) 16
9. David Pocock (Force) 16
9. Heinrich Brussow (Cheetahs) 16
9. James Horwill (Reds) 16
13. Ben May (Hurricanes) 15
13. Ben Tameifuna (Chiefs) 15
13. Tiaan Liebenberg (Stormers) 15
16. Benn Robinson (Waratahs) 14
16. Nathan Sharpe (Force) 14
16. Steven Sykes (Sharks) 14
16. Tanerau Latimer (Chiefs) 14
20. Sekope Kepu (Waratahs) 13
Most Turnovers
1. Tiaan Liebenberg (Stormers) 32
2. Adam Thomson (Highlanders) 29
2. Bismarck du Plessis (Sharks) 29
2. Tom McCartney (Blues) 29
5. Corey Flynn (Crusaders) 28
6. Stephen Moore (Brumbies) 27
6. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 27
8. Dean Mumm (Waratahs) 25
8. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 25
8. Will Genia (Reds) 25
11. Adriaan Strauss (Cheetahs) 24
11. Callie Visagie (Lions) 24
11. Jaco Taute (Lions) 24
14. Ali Williams (Blues) 22
14. Dane Coles (Hurricanes) 22
14. Francois Hougaard (Bulls) 22
14. Hadleigh Parkes (Blues) 22
18. Luke Jones (Rebels) 21
19. Kieran Read (Crusaders) 20
19. Mahonri Schwalger (Chiefs) 20
Most Missed Tackles
1. Nick Phipps (Rebels) 36
2. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 33
3. Charl Mcleod (Sharks) 29
3. Josh Strauss (Lions) 29
5. Brett Sheehan (Force) 28
5. Peter Grant (Stormers) 28
5. Rob Horne (Waratahs) 28
8. Franco van der Merwe (Lions) 27
8. Francois Hougaard (Bulls) 27
8. Willem Alberts (Sharks) 27
8. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs) 27
12. Andrew Ellis (Crusaders) 25
12. Elton Jantjies (Lions) 25
12. Philip van der Walt (Cheetahs) 25
15. Conrad Smith (Hurricanes) 24
15. Faifili Levave (Hurricanes) 24
15. JP Pietersen (Sharks) 24
15. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 24
15. Nick Cummins (Force) 24
15. Robert Ebersohn (Cheetahs) 24

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37 Comments

  1. avatar Americano says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 5:38 am

    Bryce-

    A quick scan of the data posted made me think this was your pushing for Messerschmit-Willie LeRoux as 2012 S15 Rookie of the year honors.

    As I looked closer at these Christian Cullen/ Dave Campese – like numbers….I’d have to agree with you.

    :Ollie:

  2. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 6:47 am

    Reply to Americano @ 5:38 am:

    Haha… well I’d have to say he is top of the backs for mine as rookie of the year so far…

    Etzebeth is up there too…

  3. avatar Americano says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 7:38 am

    From your lips to Henyeke Meyer’s ears….

    It’s official. Messerschmitt-Wille is “all that”.

  4. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Willie is the perfect Oz International.

    South Africa like them a bit more straight and dumb.

    Think Habana.

  5. avatar Americano says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 8:16 am

    He’s the Cheetah’s Dave Campese. He could be the new SA Andre Joubert.

    I think everyone is now on board with the Messerschmitt-Willie….well, maybe not Aldo. :D

    Just glad he doesn’t play for Bulls. They’d ditch the Messerschmitt bit and call him Pinky LeRoux.

  6. avatar Bokhoring says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Which site is this from?

  7. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 9:00 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 8:04 am:

    Oh how you like to tar player’s reps with your perceptions… go back and look at some ‘best ofs’ of the genius… ‘dumb’ he was never… mercurial he was… was ranked as one of the best wingers of all time just recently by… wait for it… Aussies…

    Willie is too white to play for the Boks on the wing… unless there is a drastic increase in POC numbers across the 22… there I said it…

    Oh and he cannot tackle for shit yet…

  8. avatar CooleyHigh says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:00 am: why would willie be “too white” to play for the boks at wing, if i recall francois hougaard – a white boy – played at the world cup for the boks.

  9. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 9:18 am

    Reply to Bokhoring @ 8:20 am:

    It’s grabbed off the rugbyheaven.com.au and is supplied by SportsData… but it’s easier to get all their more comprehensive stats tabulated from here…

    http://www.rugbystats.com.au/rugby/super15.html

  10. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Reply to CooleyHigh @ 9:14 am:

    He most certainly didn’t start at wing in any of the games I watched… so it would have been off the bench with FDP staying on at 9… such is his utility value…

    WLR does not have that bench value…

  11. avatar CooleyHigh says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:30 am: the point is, if he is good enough he will play…

    jean de villiers started at wing in 2010 Tri-Nations and he is white!

  12. avatar CooleyHigh says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 9:55 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:30 am: WLR has plenty “bench value” he played both fullback & flyhalf for Boland in the 1st Div Currie Cup, score 23 tries.

    he is often at 1st receiver, alternating with either goosen or riaan smit.

  13. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 10:37 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:00 am:

    He has been dumb since 2007. One trick pony. Cannot even step. Cannot kick. You have to give him opportunity and he will score . Great wings in my opinion MAKE opportunities.

    The Beales and Coopers of this world will never play for Boks. Thats my point. We dont value creativity that much. We place more value on Defence and straight running and size etc. Which is why Willie will make the team in Oz yet here has no shot.

  14. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Not to mention basic skills. few wings make two knock-ons in succession practically every game. They guy has no hands.

    Cant step
    cant kick
    cant catch

    Moerse

  15. avatar Boertjie says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 10:37 am:

    Yeah right about Habana.

  16. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 11:14 am

    De jong has everything Habana has and more. In fact de Jong is the good qualities of both De Villiers and Habana, yet he plays second fiddle to these premadonnas? Based on what? 2007 thats what.

  17. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am

    scares the living bejaysus ou tof me to think Jean and Meisie might be starting pair against the Poms. If anything says : “boks dont have balls” its that.

    Give me Steyn and De Jong please!

  18. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 11:33 am

    hougie, steyn

    steyn, de jong

    mvovo lambie JPP

  19. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 11:24 am:

    creativity v conservatism:
    9. Piet v Zyl v FdP?
    10. Lambie v Steyn?
    11. le Roux v Habs?
    12. Frans v WO?
    13. JJ v JdV?
    14. Bason v JPP?
    15. Aplon v Zane?

  20. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 11:33 am:

    practical and probably as close to the starting back-line as we will get IMO.
    All depends on when Frans Steyn has joined the bokke and where he is now?
    De Jongh will probaböy make way for JdV.
    JPP has been on fire lately and still one of the 1st names on my bok team sheet. Same with Lambie – the rest is :Dawie:

  21. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 11:38 am:

    Piet Van Zyl what the f@ck has he done more than Hougaard except show a lot of flash and accumulated a lot more losses?

  22. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 2:57 pm:

    just making a point!

  23. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 10:37 am:

    I suggest you watch the Bulls hiding they gave the Saders then Chiefs in 2009 (Habana one of the top try-scorers and from individual brilliance)… I suggest you watch the 2009 3N again … talk about blinkered…

  24. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 10:37 am:

    The Beales and Coopers would walk into a Bok side no matter who was selecting…

    Reply to CooleyHigh @ 9:55 am:

    “he played both fullback & flyhalf for Boland in the 1st Div Currie Cup”

    Awesome… cap him then… pfff… don’t get ahead of yourself mate… you’re starting to sound like a WP supporter or Shieldsy… where half a season of flash (even if you cannot tackle) and you’d be capped for the Boks…

  25. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 11:33 am:

    You have Mvovu there… he cannot kick, cannot chip, cannot step, has no passing game… just speed and power… so according to you he shouldn’t be in the Bok side…

  26. avatar Americano says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 3:12 pm:

    Messerschmitt-Willie is a veritable swiss-army knife of the backline.

    10,11,14,15. His flyhalf and fullback play is what sets him apart from your standard hum-drum wing. This can be seen by his cut-out passes.
    He also has an educated left boot ( that means he’s a lefty but I heard it on the commentary last game and couldn’t resist usnig it).
    There is plenty of precedent for having white wings – with M-WLR his additional capabilities gives him all the more cover.
    I think the missed tackle counts are misleading when it comes to Cheetahs. As a team defensively – they blow. Of course the Messerschmitt is going to lapse when confronted with trying to stop a jailbreak from 2-3 missed tackles before he even gets a shot.
    He has the same missed tackle count as Frank Hougaard.
    Tries are what wings do. His Line-Breaks and Line-Break assist counts are in a word….sublime.
    Messerschmitt-Willie LeRoux for the win !
    :wave:

  27. avatar Americano says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Also Bryce – I know how you love keeping an additional forward as cover on the bench…MWLR lets you do that because of his cover at 11,14,10 and 15.

  28. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Reply to Americano @ 5:08 pm:

    So you would play him in this must-win test against the English who have now had more than a handful of games together… dropping a capped player?

  29. avatar Americano says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    No. But I would have in in the final 40 camp and stsrt easing him in – fall tour? Definitely.
    That way he can begin to afford that needed extra forward on the bench. I’m more than willing to reasonably work with you on this Bryce :D

  30. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Reply to Americano @ 6:00 pm:

    By that time the S15 will be over and we could see he maintains or even ups his game…

    A few mid-weekers would aid that this tour but alas…

    Until then… just over a week until the test…

  31. avatar Boertjie says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 6:24 pm:

    We’ve never needed am A-team tour or
    games more than now.
    Dunno if the Baabaa selections will
    live up to it.

  32. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 7:01 pm:

    How could they… they’re made out of CC lower division… not even any Kwas players… so much for giving the Poms a ‘welcome’… better off playing Varsity Cup teams…

  33. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    May 31st, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 7:11 pm:

    do we have squads yet?

  34. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    June 1st, 2012 at 3:03 am

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 7:13 pm:

    Yes… a few days ago but I’ve been too irritated to post them… will find them again and post under humour…

  35. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    June 1st, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 3:05 pm:

    2009 is along time ago. Mvovo is today what Habana was then. yes not the most skill-full but nigh impossible to stop.

    You need to let go of 2007 at some stage and embrace a bright new future.

    I dont mind Habana at 13. I actually rate him there as I rate Jean Divs at 11. But on wing and centre respectively these two have done fuckall since 2008 for the Boks. Nothing. Time to look elsewhere.

  36. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    June 1st, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 8:52 am:

    Oh FFS… no offence mate but you can be such a ‘blinkered’ Free-Stater (sorry OO) sometimes… you get something in your mind and it’s closed…

    “He has been dumb since 2007. One trick pony. Cannot even step. Cannot kick”
    “You need to let go of 2007 at some stage and embrace a bright new future.”

    I’ve given you scores of examples since 2007 above such as when he was voted the best winger in 2009, brilliant individual tries in 2010… and wait for it…

    Just a few games back in 2012 none other than Brian ‘cannot kick’ Habana became the first EVER RSA player to score 50 Super Rugby tries with a Habana-esque chip-n-chase out-sprinting Taute and co with ease!

    Got to love the record books and youtube for the blinkered mob…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jWTWcW5sYw

  37. avatar DavidS says:
    June 1st, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 11:01 am:

    He gets a bee in his bonet and sticks to it no matter how many times it stings.

    Sine we started this blog he was once rights about the Reds winning S15…

    This was his one moment of glory.

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