Springboks 14 v England 14

June 23, 2012
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The Springboks will look for a clean-sweep and record 10 victories in a row when they tackle England in Port Elizabeth.

Recent Results:

2012: South Africa won 36-27 in Johannesburg
2012: South Africa won 22-17 in Durban
2010: South Africa won 21-11 in London
2008: South Africa won 42-6 in London
2007: South Africa won 15-6 in Paris
2007: South Africa won 36-0 in Paris
2007: South Africa won 55-22 in Pretoria
2007: South Africa won 58-10 in Bloemfontein
2006: South Africa won 25-14 in London
2006: England won 23-21 in London
2004: England won 32-16 in London
2003: England won 25-6 in Perth

The teams

South Africa: 15 Gio Aplon, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jean de Villiers, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 François Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Jacques Potgieter, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Werner Kruger, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Ryan Kankowski, 20 Ruan Pienaar, 21 Elton Jantjies, 22 Bjorn Basson.

England: 15 Alex Goode, 14 Chris Ashton, 13 Jonathan Joseph, 12 Manusamoa Tuilagi, 11 Ben Foden, 10 Toby Flood, 9 Danny Care, 8 Thomas Waldrom, 7 James Haskell, 6 Tom Johnson, 5 Geoff Parling, 4 Tom Palmer, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Dylan Hartley (captain), 1 Joe Marler.
Replacements: 16 Lee Mears, 17 Paul Doran Jones, 18 Mouritz Botha, 19 Phil Dowson, 20 Lee Dickson, 21 Owen Farrell, 22 Brad Barritt.

Date: Saturday, 23 June
Kick-off: 17.05 (15.05 GMT)
Venue: Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth
Expected weather: It seems that the rain may well hold off in the afternoon which will reach a high of 21°C, dropping to 13°C. Windy at times, but then it is PE.
Referee: Steve Walsh (Australia)
Assistant referees: Nigel Owens (Wales), John Lacey (Ireland)
TMO: Giulio De Santis (Italy)

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33 Comments

  1. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    any good place to stream the game apart from Supesport???????

  2. avatar Kevin_rack says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Watch here http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/57402/2/south-africa-vs-england–live-stream-online.html

  3. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    Reply to Kevin_rack @ 5:05 pm: tx

  4. avatar Kevin_rack says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Good captaining Jean, listen in

  5. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    9-8 SA 32 Min

    SAteyn has missed a pen and drop but Flood has missed everything but a one penalty. England should have been far ahead.

  6. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    HT

    9-8 SA

    Hougaard is playing KAK

    Wonder where Bekke is to squeal that he needs to f**koff?

  7. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    It is time for HM to let Morne be drop and get someone other in, he is clueless, not up to par in any standards I am a big fan of him but he needs to be shake now. missing easy kicks and general play is kak

  8. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 5:50 pm: Agree Hougie is not playing well

  9. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    62 min

    14-9 SA after brilliant by SA on attack

    But Steyn missed conversion

  10. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    Re Steyn

    Ag kak man

  11. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    70 min
    14-11 Boks

  12. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    72 min

    Farrel pen

    14 all

  13. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    75 Steyn missed drop in great position…

    14 all still

  14. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    78 min and Boks lose contact ball and pen England

    poor by Boks

  15. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    14 all

    Sucks

  16. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    Sorry but steyn and hougie gave us kak service and cost us the game, steyn left to many points on the park and needs to have a hard look at his game very disappointed

  17. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    He’s the best we have.

  18. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Steyn I mean.
    Hougaard needs to clipped.
    Maybe we need FDP to come in and be a specialist mind coach / consultant to him…

  19. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Sorry I do not think so, he’s whole play sucks, Grant, Bambie even Jantjies is better than he was. You can not have a kicker who can not kick and then his service so bad for his backline.

    Must say a lot of players out with injury but no excuse he is a senior player who should have step up

  20. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    Very poor display by the Boks.
    Time for Steyn to be replaced? By whom?
    Boks looked totally without plans, not
    even one attempt at a grubber etc.
    Meisiekind was OK.

  21. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 6:54 pm: Ja I had no problems with Meisiekind trying, give steyn a moerse klap or replace him with someone else maybe that will wake him up.

    Hougie needs to be replaced by Peinaar sorry hougie did not have a good series, we missed Fransie today backline was clueless

  22. avatar Bekke says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    Easiest will be is HM f-off with his blue facination!

  23. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    Reply to Bekke @ 7:04 pm:

    Brei uit: Wie wil jy daar hê wat nie beseer is nie?

  24. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Reply to Bekke @ 7:04 pm:

    With whom?

    Do you want Strontlie / Viljoen panic selections week by week or do you want consistency like with Jake White, PDV and HM…

    Remind me again which were the more successful coaches?

    Oh yes…

    Don’t worry…

    As jy skrik… skrik wakker…

  25. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Was Tiger that much better than Hougie?
    Or do we need new blood at 9?
    Test that all the Boks would want to forget.

  26. avatar Duiwel says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    Well put.

  27. avatar Boertjie says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Reply to Duiwel @ 8:09 pm:

    Ja Duiwel, ek voel maar kakkerig vanaand -
    na gisteraand se high oor die Klein Bokkies.

  28. avatar biltongbek says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    So the English test series is now done and dusted, result a disappointing 2-0 series result.

    Quickly the English, coming off a relatively successful Six Nations came here expecting a positive series result. They would have considered the first test series as their best opportunity to catch the new coach Heyneke Meyer ad a fair number of new combination cold.

    Realistically one win would have meant a positive result seeing that they are playing away from home. I think they most definitely should feel very proud of their performance when you consider it is ot only a young team but also a rather inexperienced squad.

    The Springboks on the other hand should not be too positive about their performances. My biggest concern about the new era for Springbok rugby had to do with the game plan and after seeing glimpses of the boks going wide and running onto the ball at pace making numerous offloads in the tackle making meters at a time, I expected the following tests to show more of this.

    In the second match we started with the best 25 minutes of rugby I have seen the Springboks play since Nick Mallet, alas only to fall back into pedantic, slow and unimaginative play for the rest of the match.

    Granted they finished when the pressure was on with a try started and finished by JP Pietersen.

    During the week prior to this test Heyneke Meyer ad Jean de Villiers said in the media that the Springboks had a very good week of preparation, well it seems perhaps there were too much preparation as the players looked very lackluster in the initial period of this test.

    Sadly this continued right throughout the match ad it was clear that the forward pack was nowhere near the intensity needed at this level. They allowed the English free reign to commit as many numbers as they needed to the breakdowns and even after repeated warnings from Steven Walsh to the English, the Boks still didn’t realize that they need to front up and not allow the English forwards to slow our ball down.

    What was extremely disappointing from today’s match was the proof once again that Morne Steyn has but no bloody creativity when it is most needed, why the hell is he still kicking possession away when it is most needed in the last few minutes of the match. Heyneke Meyer will have to get rid of him. The reason why Morne Steyn has been retained in the springbok jumper has been purely for the reason of kicking us to victory in the 2009 British and Irish Lions tour and the Tri Nations.

    This is not a knee jerk reaction from me, it is the reality of the situation, and it is not only me, when 45000 fans start booing your kicking it is time that you, the coach and every part of the management team realize that South African fans have had enough of this tactic.

    Lets look at his kicking stats for the series. Steyn missed 25 points with the boot vs England who only missed 9 points with the boot for the entire series. Now considering that the reason why he is primarily in the team is his kicking a 62% ratio is simply not good enough, especially when considering Patrick Lambie is not only a better attacking option, but has kicked better than Steyn this year. Why then is he still the incumbent flyhalf.

    Lets face reality, we didn’t deserve to draw this test, England played with more gusto, more intensity, better running options ad was it not for some last ditch tackles, a number of unforced errors we would have lost this test, be sure Australia and New Zealand will not make the same mistakes as England.

    The frustrating thing is we saw what we can do, we know what we are capable of, now if Heyneke Meyer believes we were only 10% of where we want to be, then the bad news is we dipped back to 2% after this performance, so it is back to the drawing board.

    Player ratings.

    Beast Matwarira – Decent at scrumtime, missed a few tackles, didn’t make many meters with ball in hand and not enough intensity from what we are used to. 6/10

    Bismarck du Plessis – If it is at all possible to play yourself out of form in the space of one week then Bismarck has managed to do that, his line out throws were poor, he looked lost without his buddy Willem Alberts and in general didn’t perform well at all. 5/10

    Jannie du Plessis – Decent at scrumtime, average at best. 6/10

    Juandre Kruger – Had a decent line out performance in the first half and stole one lineout, not his best game of the series overall.6/10

    Eben Etzebeth – decent in the lins outs, stole a line out, but can someone please tell this young man to offload the bloody ball, what is the use you are strog enough to stay o your feet but the allow yourself to be isolated because your teammates are waiting for the pass and not focusing on hitting the ruck. 5/10

    Marcell Coetzee – Industrious but cannot do it on his own. 7/10

    Jacques Potgieter – no thanks. 4/10

    Pierre Spies – If you are goig to have him in your back row, you must have big physical players around him that can get go forward momentum, he needs space otherwise he is useless. The only impressive thing he did during this series was good at line outs.5/10

    Francois Hougaardt – If he does one more of those little worm rucks to provide himself space to kick I will dirty myself. 5/10

    Morne Steyn – Get the hell outta here. 3/10

    Wynand Olivier – Stop gap, thank you , good bye. 5/10

    Jean de Villiers – didn’t do much and didn’t look like he was inspiring or leading from the front. 6/10

    Bryan Habana – not his best game of the series. 6/10

    JP Pietersen – Our saving grace. 7/10

    Gio Aplon – If the rest of the team showed his guts and determination we would have won by a score, I looked at him when he was singing the Anthem, pure passion from the wee lad. 7/10

    Heyneke Meyer has now won his first series, it wasn’t convincing and I will allow him the benefit of the doubt about his selections for this series. But he has some selection decisions to make, and they do not lie with Morne Steyn. He needs to look at Lambie for now, and get Gooen into the mix as soon as possible.

    We must get Schalk Burger and Willem Alberts in combination with Spies, without them he should not be selected. We need Duane Vermeulen or Jean Deysel on the bench, Kolisi and Marcell Coetzee should be developed for future use and back up.

    Francois Hougaard should be put on a leash and given an attitude adjustment, primary goal of a half back is to clear the ruck, not traffic the bloody ruck. Then take a snipe when there is a gap, after all that is your strength.

    Frans Steyn must be courted, loved and motivated by Heyneke Meyer, two of our tries last weekend came from his vision, without him we have nothing.

    With Lambie at the back, hide Morne Steyn there until Goosen can come in then relegate him to the bench.

    Coenie Oosthuizen needs to be looked after, but Werner Kruger must be sent back to the kindergarten where he can scrum against 8 year olds and build confidence and technique.

    Andries Bekker needs to be looked after and motivated, he is injured to often and to much a mood player.

    Overall I am very disappointed with this series, we haven’t put one 80 minute performance together, let alone a 40 minute performance, the All Blacks and Wallabies will be relentless. I understand the Springboks will be much stronger when the injured players return, but that will not help us one iota if Morne Steyn remains at pivot.

  29. avatar Duiwel says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    I don’t care about pretty.
    winning ugly will do.
    Hougaard and steyn need only toread
    the English press.
    They know that the 4n is starting.
    I’m for faith and consist.

  30. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 8:06 pm:

    Ek stem 100% saam.

    Dis asof hulle na die reeks wen besluit het om te gaan huistoe maak sodat almal vars is vir die derbies in S15 volgende week.

    BTW Biltongbek

    On S15 form Morne Steyn was the correct choice for HM to make… Lambie HAS NOT played at flyhalf all that often because he’s been too kak in S15.

    All of you have forgotten the complete total and utter lack of any creativity in the Stormers backline starting at Duvenage and and ending at Aplon but now are trumpeting Grant.

    Going into the series Morne Steyn was the top scoring player in S15
    He had the most line break assists
    He had in the top 10 of try assists

    He was the correct choice

    AND DESPITE HIS POOR KICKING, he is still the only real option we have at flyhalf unless we want to Gaffie Johan Goosen…

  31. avatar Bekke says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    DavidS, u like to throw in facts. How successfull was the HM circus (him and his blue cronies like Ricardo…) the last 18 months? The writing was on the wall that his circus was not in tune with the development of the game. To be successfull, this narcist had to learn and change – instead he just continued with his own yes-sayers, his buddie players and his kick and pray gameplan. Passion can carry you a few games, but to draw against a pommie B team, at the end of their season, om home soil, is pathetic!
    Booooooooo!!!!!

  32. avatar Duiwel says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    Ja -ja Oudste,self

  33. avatar DavidS says:
    June 23rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    Reply to Bekke @ 8:47 pm:

    What HM circus?

    HM hasn’t coached since 2008 at Bath

    So maybe catch a wakeup before trying to “throw facts” around.

    But I forgot you Capetonians mos think a Director of Rugby and a Coach are the same thing which is why you frustrated Rassie Erasmus out of a job…

    I assume you believe Rassie Erasmus is also a crony of HM…

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