Argentina 16 v Springboks 16

August 25, 2012
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The Boks travel to Mendoza to tackle the Argies on their home turf in their debut season of the Rugby Championship.

MATCH DETAILS:

South Africa versus Argentina (15th test)
Estadio Malvinas Argentinas,
Mendoza, Mendoza Province, Argentina
Kick off (1610 local, 1910 GMT, Sunday 26 August 0710 NZT, Sunday 26 August 0510 NSW/ACT,
2110 SAT)
Referee: S. Walsh (ARU)
AR: J. Garces (FFR)
AR: J. Lacey (IRFU)
TMO: Francisco Pastrana

HEAD TO HEAD:

Played 14: South Africa 14, Argentina 0
Last match: South Africa 27 – 6 Argentina @ DHL Newlands, Cape Town (18 August, 2012)

Argentina record at Mendoza: Played 2, Won 2, Lost 0
Argentina record at home: Played 107, Won 51, Lost 51, Drawn 5

South African record at Mendoza: DEBUT MATCH
South African record away from home: Played 189, Won 108, Lost 74, Drawn 7

Point’s aggregate: South Africa 571, Argentina 278 (41-20)
Tries aggregate: South Africa 73, Argentina 26 (5-2)

RECENT MATCHES:

18 August, 2012: South Africa 27 – 6 Argentina (1st round of The Rugby Championship)
23 June, 2012: South Africa 14 – 14 England (3rd test June tour)
16 June, 2012: South Africa 36 – 27 England (2nd test June tour)
9 June, 2012: South Africa 22 – 17 England (1st test June tour)
9 October, 2012: South Africa 9 – 11 Australia (RWC QF)

18 August, 2012: Argentina 6 – 27 South Africa (1st round of The Rugby Championship)
11 August, 2012: Argentina 31 – 17 Stade Francais (friendly)
4 August, 2012: Argentina 21 – 25 Stade Francais (friendly)
23 June, 2012: Argentina 10 – 49 France (3rd test June tour)
16 June, 2012: Argentina 23 – 20 France (2nd test June tour)

TEAMS:

Argentina (revised): 15 Martín Rodríguez, 14 Gonzalo Camacho, 13 Marcelo Bosch, 12 Santiago Fernández, 11 Horacio Agulla, 10 Nicolás Sánchez, 9 Nicolás Vergallo, 8 Juan Martín Fernández Lobbe (c), 7 Álvaro Galindo, 6 Julio Farías Cabello, 5 Patricio Albacete, 4 Manuel Carizza, 3 Juan Figallo, 2 Eusebio Guiñazú, 1 Rodrigo Roncero.

Replacements:16 Bruno Postiglioni, 17 Marcos Ayerza, 18 Leonardo Senatore, 19 Tomás Leonardi, 20 Martín Landajo, 21 Lucas González Amorosino, 22 Juan Imhoff.

South Africa: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Bryan Habana, 13 Jean de Villiers (c), 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Willem Alberts, 7 Jacques Potgieter, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

Replacements: 16 Tiaan Liebenberg, 17 Pat Cilliers, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Keegan Daniel, 20 Ruan Pienaar, 21 Pat Lambie, 22 JJ Engelbrecht.

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30 Comments

  1. avatar DavidS says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Both sides missing early pens…

  2. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    no excuses regarding missing players will cover the predictability of the bokke. AB’s will destroy these Argies but the bokke can’t even break the line :noshake:

  3. avatar Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Kom nou Bokke, Bekker needs to be taken of, having a nightmare

  4. avatar biltongbek says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    This is simply pathetic, if you see a team nail you at the breakdown, and has more numbers there, then either don’t get isolated, or get the pass out, or commit more bloody numbers to the breakdown.

  5. avatar Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    Does anyone remember how Jean de Villiers almost killed a Argentinian player the last time we played in Arg in 2005, pushing him into a ditch next to the field, and just catching him in time.

    One of the most bizarre incidents I have seen in a rugby game.

  6. avatar Americano says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    US get the spanish feed (WTF).
    My spanish blows but I think I discerned them saying how the sprinboks look poisoned – and also how huge they are.
    I think that “theres gold in them there hills” if they get the ball wide but that must not be in the gameplan spreadsheet at this point

  7. avatar Americano says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    Wow did Steyn just save the day or what?

  8. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    bokke hond kak! :bangheadt: :bangheadt:
    way too predictable, imight just join shields!! :censored:

  9. avatar DavidS says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    shocking display

  10. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    this will interest brand:
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-south-africa-2012/content/story/578782.html

  11. avatar Craven says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    How do you kick the ball away in the last two minutes if you are trying to win the game?

  12. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    HM choose a team with so called running players but all Morne does is kicking the ball back at Argies..

    Hougardt piss poor game, passed like a 6 year old tonight.
    Morne piss poor gamne, kicking like a schoolboy again and made wrong play all night.
    Habs hondkak.
    Jean Hondkak
    Coetzee hondkak and cannot pass a ball.
    Frontrow hondkak
    Bekker hondkak.
    SPringboks hondkak
    We can be glad we did not get a :Rule 9: for the kak game we played

  13. avatar Craven says:
    August 25th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Reply to Jacques(Bunny) @ 11:08 pm:
    What happened to Coetzee since Superugby where the guy was running lines and off loading to now? This limiting gameplan is killing our young rugby players. To be honest I actually hope some of our young talent do not find their way into the current Bok setup as everything that makes them good will be drilled out of them.

  14. avatar mawm-the-ever-hopeful-shark says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 12:33 am

    Clueless. One just cannot try to run through players and hope to break the gain line. No support on the shoulder, no unloading in tackles, no ‘lines’ run, no variation. :soek:

    Argentina were very unlucky not to win that game. The AB’s and Wobblies, on current form, will beat the Boks if they continue down this path.

  15. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 12:41 am

    I’ll say it again for the millionth time…

    The Bok backline (like all relies on QUICK BALL)… yet the pack still has no clue on how to have support runners that are prepared to clear-out rucks en-masse, smashing any opposition as a unit… and counter-ruck en-masse on opposition ball… until then the opposition has free reign at the rucks!

    Watch Bledisloe 2… this team will get killed by the AB’s in this respect… and more than likely the Wallabies will continue their unbeaten run…

  16. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 12:51 am

    Reply to mawm-the-ever-hopeful-shark @ 12:33 am:

    Yep that sums up the rest of what I was going to say… I’ll add the only way to threaten the Blacks is to have an uber-quick pick-n-go at pace skittling all and sundry in the wreckage and opening up gaps for the wings to run in on at pace…

    Perhaps we simply to not have the personnel!

  17. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 12:55 am

    Aus won’t lose a game against Arg… the competition takes a real turn for the worse for the Boks…

    Was hoping HM would create a stir by getting a Todd Louden into the mix for the backs and bring back Gert Smal or someone else in the forwards…

  18. avatar Kevin Rack says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 3:13 am

    The Argies deserved to win that and we deserved to lose. One played rugby while the other squandered.

    Kicking the ball away with 2 minutes to play is sticking to the game plan no matter what. We can blame players but the coach has to take responsibility too for such a poor 1 dimensional give away possession game plan and stifling creativity.

    I can now see why Brendan has a go at our backline, how crap are they. They cannot even string a decent backline movement without either kicking or crash ball. No deft offlaods, runners nothing just sheffle the ball sides ways till the poor winger gets ball and the whole backline too as no one drew defenders.

    MS was crap but he cannot alone beheld responsible for the coaches game plan or the total lack of imagination shown by the Boks backline.
    Granted the Pumas were offside just about every play but there were times we even effed up an overlap. Frannie still thinks he can run over people.

    This HM’s games plan Achilles heel: If the opposition does match you with physicality what then? We could not rely on the backline.

    Big difference in KD came on. I think its time to offer an alternative to MS. Not because of his lack of form but we need tested alternatives.
    Hougaard seems to be a better winger than scrumhalf.

    If we dont have a miracle even the Aussies could beat us.

  19. avatar Duiwel says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:22 am

    Pathetic.

  20. avatar Duiwel says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 7:23 am

    Physicality?

  21. avatar biltongbek says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:28 am

    The fundamental flaw of the springboks are simple.

    Two men won’t beat six men at the breakdown, it is flippen basic physics. If they don’t get that they are f…ing stupid.

    When, oh when will we stop kicking the f…ing ball in the last quarter of the game?

    I really have nothing more to say, I am so f….ing gatvol it is getting to the point where I am going to walk away fron rugby, how the hell can we be this pisspoor.

  22. avatar LionsinPTA says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:33 am

    Suddenly Pdivvy is making sense to me……

  23. avatar DavidS says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Lots of people demanding an opensider…

    It was not what was needed

    What was needed was forwards hitting rucks in a group and either securing our ball or rucking over Argentinian ball.

    Poor effort all round.

    Backs cannot play when the forwards are so slow in clearing the ball for the backline to play with that the opposition has all the time in the world to reset defensive lines.

  24. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Do we really believe that players are not allowed to change a gameplan if it is not working?

    Players and leaders (Jean) should have change the plan when they saw it was not working.

    I got a feeling the backs are badly coach. The fowards are playing Supershit type of game in test rugby.

    Hope HM have a plan against Aus and NZ.

  25. avatar Duiwel says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    What plan?
    Oh yes that how to convince the public
    that we can field fifteen c@nts at least!
    Well if that was indeed the masterplan
    Its a successsssss!

    Then again,
    HM has drawn two
    And lost none.

    That means he has my vote.

  26. avatar Craven says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    I think I understand that Heyneke do not have the players available through injuries and retirement to make his style of rugby a success. But is it not the sign of a great coach to make the limited resources available to him work through finding a pattern that suits his available players? The way, dare I say it, Jake White has done at the Brumbies for most of the year.

  27. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    Reply to Craven @ 4:32 pm: My thoughts is teh same on JAke but we do not dare give him any crediet on this site or anywhere on SA blogs, he was mos lucky with O/21 and Boks of 2007.

    I am very dissapointed in HM realy thought he would be the one coach who would think out of the box and at this stage it does not look so.

    I am also so sick of hearing about our injury problems and that he can not choose his best team. Even with injury players back he would still pick Hougardt over Pienaar, Morne over Lambie, Spies over Kanko or Dwane.

    Like all other coaches before him he has his blue eye boys and he will pick them everytime.

    His staff is also his downfall, Ricardo has proof nothing in CC nor Supershit, as far as I know the Bulls backline style of rugby comes from Slaptjips, Why he also pick Bulls defense coach and not Jacques is beyond me. What happen to Percy or Vlok for kicking coach?

    HM problems are deeper than just the way Boks perform on the field.

  28. avatar Bekke says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Hak Hak Meyer is hopelessly too insecure to surround him with thinking coaches – he can only toletate yay-sayers that will NEVER disagree with him ( just watch the token fellow coaches rotating in the bix for TV during games!!). The result was only a surprise to those ignorant of the fact that his gameplans have been proven to be completely inadequate for today’s game. Hak Hak, narcist Meyer is …

  29. avatar Bekke says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Box!

  30. avatar biltongbek says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    Reply to Bekke @ 5:49 pm: A box has six sides which suggests lateral thinking, I would disagree.

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