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Julle sal my vergewe as ek nie té liries raak oor die Bokke se wen oor die Wallabies gister nie, vir die eerste keer die jaar het hulle eenvoudig ’n wen gekry wat hulle verwag het om te kry.

5 drieë is glad nie iets waarna jy steel kan staar nie, veral nie as dit teen die huidige nommer twee span in die wêreld  verkry is nie, maar as ons eerlik is, is dit iets wat waaragtig verwag moes gewees het teen ’n Wallabie span wat geruk is deur beserings nie net deur die jaar nie, maar ook op die dag waar hulle die Bokke moes aanpak in die hoëveld waar hulle meer as 40 jaar laas gewen het.

Die Bokke is nou wel nie beter af op die beserings front nie maar ek bly by my punt van ’n paar weke terug dat hierdie een van die swakste Australiese spanne is in meer as ’n dekade.

Daar was wel ’n hele paar lig-punte vir die Bokke veral die spelpeil van Eben Etzebeth, Francois Louw en Bryan Habana.  Die nuwelinge Johan Goosen en Jaco Taute het ook waardevolle buigings gemaak in die begin vyftiental en selfs ’n voos Jean de Villiers het ’n bietjie rigting in sy spel terug gekry.

Die pak met Andries Bekker terug het goed vertoon in die lynstane wat ’n area van kommer was in die laaste paar weke en die skrums was ook solied.

Maar daar is nog steeds kommer as dit kom by die losskrums waar die Bokke op tye heeltemal te maklik geboelie was deur ’n gemiddelde Australiese pak.  Het ons nie afrigters in Suid-Afrika wat die moderne opset en eksekusie van die area van spel verstaan nie?

’n Ander area van kommer is die skopwerk wat nie veel verbeter het van Dunedin af nie.  Meyer het genoem dat Johan Goosen vroeg van sy skop verpligtinge verlig was omrede hy met ’n enkel besering gesukkel het die heelweek al, maar Ruan Pienaar was nie veel beter nie.

Gepraat van jong Goosen en die verwagtinge in die media voor die toets moet ek sê hy het glad nie teleurgestel vir sy eerste buiging as ’n begin-speler nie.  Hy het nou nie die wêreld aan die brand gespeel nie en ek is seker sy poepol het borrels gehap van senuwees, maar die jong kêrel het definitief ’n groot toekoms in Bok-rugby.

As ek nou rêrig ’n bietjie wil gatduik moet ek sê my grootste kritiek van die toets was die feit dat Elton Jantjies 10 minute moes strek voordat hy op die veld gestuur is.  Baie mense sal met my verskil maar ek voel nog steeds dat die kêrel ’n meer volledige spelstyl op losskakel bring as Johan Goosen.

Maar nou ja, ek wil nie te veel wegvat van ’n goeie oorwinning vir Heyneke en Jean nie, maar glo my kêrels, ons het basies maar net gedoen wat verwag was van ons – die Bokke se toets en daai van sekere jong spelers in sleutel posisies sal beter gemeet word volgende naweek in Soweto.

Welgedaan Heyneke en die Bokke!

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  1. Magties die TE heerlik om in Afrikaans te lees.

    Morne ek stem saam – die toets-wen is amper geval van in die land van die blindes is een-oog koning !!!

    Lekker gewees om te sien hoe die manne die bal rondgooi – maar heeltemal te veel kere waar niemand regtig geweet het wie gaan wat nou doen en almal gestaan en kyk het wat gaan nou gebeur !!! Dis darem ook nou nie die antwoord nie – sidder bietjie as ek dink wat die All Blacks teen die Bokke Sat sou doen !!!

    Hopelik word meer geskaaf voor Soweto!

    Laasten geluk Habana – 3 drieë BLY lekker – al is dit teen ‘blinde-skool’

  2. Morne ek stem saam ons moet nie in vervoering raak oor die wen nie, maar wel oor die vertoning van die Bokke. Die beserings van die Wallabies in my opinie word so biethie holrug gery, hulle het hierdie toets begin met 9 “starters” wat in die Kwart eind rondte van die Wereldbeker gespeel het met twee op die splinter bankie.

    Ons het met ses begin en een op die splinter bankie.

    Die voorspelers het gesorg dat ons voorvoet bal en momentum kry, Louw en Vermeulen het die Rucks ge-eet soos mielies en Alberts het gesorg dat die tackle meer n’ moer as a duik is.

    Lynstane was goed maar die scrum sukkel.

    Pienaar het vinniger skoongemaak en nie meerkat gespeel nie. Jean was baie beter op 12 as op 13 en Taute se spoed maak hom meer effektief om die buite hardloper in te haal.

    Habana jou pleister, Zane was goed maar is nog steeds nie my favourite nie.

    Ek sal graag wil sien dat Meyer dalk errder vir Frans op 15 sit as hy reg is vir NZ.

    Hou die res van die agterlyn soos hulle is asb.

  3. Yep… I can understand the joy at the win and 5 tries… but jeez some just have zero perspective…

    They had their first choice 2,4,5,7,8, 9, 10,12,14 leading into the match… lost their best loose-forward next before kick-off… lost their goal-kicker and 15, their 13, their second choice hooker, their prop and the game ended in a farce with no hooker being permitted on the field with 14 men…

    That’s more disjointed than a planned for Aussie B/C team… and this at a ground they have extremely bad history…

    Both Scotland and Samoa beat Aus at home with their ‘planned’ B team… so in short perspective…

  4. I’m with you Bryce.

    The true test is against NZ and in truth Heyneke has shown an alarming tendency to let the media tell him what to do.

    He will soon find that the media will hold him accountable for their selection mistakes.

  5. Reply to DavidS @ 7:18 am:

    Agreed… it’s not the joy that bugs me from Saturday… but the hysteria that a win against the Aussie C side down to 14 men was down to Morne Steyn not being there… and many still cannot see the real problems when against first-choice packs in the tight-loose…

  6. The ABs Saturday showed that they “doped their scope” appropriately after the 1st Argentine Test and it showed.
    Hopefully they won’t have the same results when playnig SA at home.
    SA played Santa Claus -bigtime- in last NZ test.
    Argentina is going to tar and feather Aus if they bring the side that played in SA Saturday.

  7. Have I mentioned that I can’t wait for JP to get back. With Habana in good form and the way JP finished off the Superugby campaing we will have two cooking wings in the Bok team again.

  8. Reply to Craven @ 8:09 am:

    They were winning the collisions I’ll give them that… it was better… but Richie McCaw was still giving them a master-class at the break-downs (in fact arguably the best performance I have seen from him right across the paddock)…

    They still have serious cohesion issues amongst the pack in the tight-loose… and that was again shown against the Wallaby C pack despite Duane and Flo’s few pilfers…

  9. Bryze, where are you experiencing this “hysteria” you are talking about? Seems you and your PissParade club (including chairman DavidS) wants us all to just stay in the gloom and doom mindset, no matter what!!! Just wake up mate, stop sniffing Pritt and try to enjoy life for a change! The Boks won, on the scoreboard and at the breakdown collisions. And if you count real metres gained (that is NOT running 2 metres forward after receiving the ball 7 metres back from the scrumhalf) you will actually appreciate the progress the Boks have made the last few weeks. Yes not perfect, and 20 points probably wasted on Saturday, and shame the Wallabies were crying the whole weekend, and yes tough game coming on Saturday, but we still won – and will not say sorry for that, despite your PissParade antics…

  10. Reply to Bekke @ 11:28 am:

    The same guys like you that were all ‘doom-n-gloom’ when the Boks lost two tests and drew two down to PK’s (which I continually pointed out)…

    From ‘doom-n-gloom’ against full strength teams to ‘hysterics’ against a C team… and most still think it was down to switching 10’s (go figure)…

    Reply to Craven @ 10:13 am:

    Are you trying to tell me that having Pocock, Moore, Horwill, Timani, Higgenbotham would not have made a difference in the pack… and that’s before losing Alexander, Samo, Polota-Nau during the game?

    I won’t even start on the missing backs before nor the crucial injuries to backs within the game…

    Incredulous injuries… tough titty in my opinion… but I want to be beating full-strength sides or at least ‘near-to-strength’ (which the Bok’s still cannot) before I start getting too excited…

    But Morne’s article sum’s it up perfectly for mine…

  11. Reply to biltongbek @ 10:34 am:

    What about the rest of the pack mate… it’s not solely the loosie’s responsibility for hitting the rucks as a unit (and counter-rucking on opposition ball)… nor their responsibility only for the pick-n-drives at pace that are non-existent (an area that puts the AB’s on the back foot)… nor is it their sole responsibility for better ball protection/retention…

    Those for mine are still ‘entire’ pack (and 22) areas of concern and have been for two seasons now… I’m over trying to rely on the old ‘gees domination of the collisions)… that alone does not win the above points of contact any more… and definitely not against the pinnacle teams…

  12. Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 12:42 pm: Bryce you need to remember the Locking pair that played australia was different from the one that played NZ, as Meyer said, he expects a more open game vs Australia hence his selection of Etzebeth and Bekker, I am sure this coming weekend we will again see a change at lock, for me flip v d Merwe had a stormer against NZ and is a must.

    I am not entirely happy with our front row though, Beast and Jannie struggle to keep the scrum up, but then we have seen that before when we play australia.

    I don’t get why scrums against australia can’t stay up, compared to the scrumming vs NZ and Argentina, where we did much better.

  13. Reply to biltongbek @ 12:46 pm:

    He had no option with Etzebeth being banned… and yes best game I have seen from Flip so far in his career… great to see… I also think that was a last chance for Juandre in the 22 (for now) and a wake-up call for Bekker (which worked)…

    As long as the Bok front-row aren’t getting penalised for dropping against Aus it doesn’t matter… they seem to know how to hold their own against the best the Bok’s have thrown at them over the years..

    Still need some TH/LH hybrids in the mix for when JDP (who is playing his best all round rugby the last few seasons) gets injured or merely for rotation… the young Oosthuisen seems to be injured more than not… and I’m not at all convinced yet with Cilliers…

  14. Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 12:30 pm: There was more than one factor that helped the Boks to this good win.

    This was a very weak Aus team.
    The Austrailian injuries were very disruptive.
    In my opinion this is the best 22 Bok players we have seen this season.
    The new flyhalfs, Goosen and Jantjies was a vast improvement to what we
    have seen from Morne Steyn so far this season. Especially in general play, and
    attacking the line.
    Our loose trio is becoming better as a unit.
    And like you said, Andries Bekker responded well to being dropped.

    I know you are a fan but Steyn should not get near the Bok jersey until he is well rested, and back to playing his best. His so called understudies is way to good to keep out of the
    team at the moment.

  15. So you have not answered my question re: hysterics? Guess for your PissParade club 1 post to celebrate a win = hysterics? Is this an Oz thing?

  16. Zane Kirchner
    Bryan Habana
    Jaco Taute
    Jean de Villiers (c)
    Francois Hougaard
    Johan Goosen
    Ruan Pienaar
    Tendai Mtawarira
    Adriaan Strauss
    Jannie du Plessis
    Eben Etzebeth
    Andries Bekker
    Francois Louw
    Willem Alberts
    Duane Vermeulen
    Tiaan Liebenberg
    Pat Cilliers
    Flip van der Merwe
    Marcell Coetzee
    Elton Jantjies
    Juan de Jongh
    Pat Lambie

    Berrick Barnes
    Dom Shipperley
    Adam Ashley-Cooper
    Pat McCabe
    Digby Ioane
    Kurtley Beale
    Nick Phipps
    Benn Robinson
    Tatafu Polota-Nau
    Ben Alexander
    Kane Douglas
    Nathan Sharpe (c)
    Dave Dennis
    Michael Hooper
    Radike Samo
    Saia Faingaa
    James Slipper
    Rob Simmons
    Liam Gill
    Brett Sheehan
    Mike Harris
    Anthony Faingaa

  17. That was Saturdays teams.

    And here are the teams from the WC 1/4 final in Wellington last year.

    Kurtley Beale
    James O’Connor
    Adam Ashley-Cooper
    Pat McCabe
    Digby Ioane
    Quade Cooper
    Will Genia
    Sekope Kepu
    Stephen Moore
    Ben Alexander
    Dan Vickerman
    James Horwill (c)
    Rocky Elsom
    David Pocock
    Radike Samo
    Tatafu Polota-Nau
    James Slipper
    Nathan Sharpe
    Ben McCalman
    Luke Burgess
    Berrick Barnes
    Anthony Faingaa

    Pat Lambie
    JP Pietersen
    Jaque Fourie
    Jean de Villiers
    Bryan Habana
    Morne Steyn
    Fourie du Preez
    Gurthro Steenkamp
    John Smit (c)
    Jannie du Plessis
    Danie Rossouw
    Victor Matfield
    Heinrich Brussow
    Schalk Burger
    Pierre Spies
    Bismarck du Plessis
    CJ van der Linde
    Willem Alberts
    Francois Louw
    Francois Hougaard
    Butch James
    Gio Aplon

  18. I count 9 Aussies and 8 Boks that were in both teams.

    The Boks have lost more players since last year than the Aussies then.
    They have been effected by injuries but so have the Boks. The only real difference is that their injuries have been more recent by a few weeks.

  19. Reply to Timeo @ 6:37 pm:

    Take one look at the ‘first choice’ (22) players missing from this season’s announced 30 man Rugby Championship squads mate…

    5 from the Bok’s before this last test and 10 from the Wallabie’s and they lost a further 6 during the game…

  20. Reply to Timeo @ 6:37 pm: Australia doesn’t have the depth the Springboks have. If they loose a few first choice players they are in big trouble, unlike the Boks where we have more than enough cover in most positions.

  21. Reply to Bekke @ 3:56 pm:

    Given your hysteria when the Boks won against England, your posts here about “celebrating the win” and “living in the moment” are rich…

    No actually they’re stupid… and oxymoronic.

  22. The real test will come on Saturday.

    Now if only HM can also drop ZK. I see
    his hand is forced by the injury of Tina.

  23. Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 7:21 pm:

    That’s only because the Boks lost their key players before the RC started. The Aus problems are more recent but not much more in magnitude.

    Reply to Vetgesmeerde Blits @ 7:39 pm:

    Over time, depth issues are a constant and therefore something that they will have to deal with or drop in the rankings. Up to now they have coped with it very well, but the games and the travel have increased again this year so these injury rates may just be the new norm.

  24. Reply to Boertjie @ 8:12 pm:

    I don’t really get this habit of fans to pick certain players and lobby against them as if it is a religion.

    What, exactly is the problem with ZK? What has he done to deserve being replaced? Who would offer a clear improvement? On what evidence?

    Most of the time it seems the fans just wants to see another player…. and then another. The same fans that will rip the coach for handing out too many caps.

  25. Reply to Boertjie @ 10:10 pm:

    I would have selected Lambie also, but one has to consider that the coach works with them everyday and sees a merit in one over the other that has to carry some weight. Thus my position is that unless a player plays himself out of contention like Morne did, one should give the coach’s selection the benefit of the doubt.

  26. I cannot explain his peference for
    Arno Botha above Brussow and Daniel,
    even though I’ve never been a fan of
    the latter.
    Just like I can’t explain the selection
    of Taute ahead of the experienced De Jongh.

    But then it’s not my job.

  27. Reply to Boertjie @ 10:10 pm:

    If a loud cheer from the crowd can make you feel validated, you should try voting for the ANC next time.

    Your scope for self validation will be virtually unlimited.

  28. Reply to Boertjie @ 10:10 pm:

    In the context of how the Bok’s play the game I really don’t understand the criticism of ZK…

    I too am a Lambie fan… but really other than a few ball skills how is ZK more limited than him?

    – ZK is one of the best in RSA under the high-ball
    – He is super-solid on defence
    – He kicks clearances further than Lambie and most in RSA
    – He’s arguably faster
    – He’s currently the most experienced 15 in RSA

    And it pains me to say on top of that he adds some colour…

  29. I have just watch the game and the Boks were not that great. They should have whipped the Aussies in the 60 point range and the fat that they made such hard work out of such a poor team as well as a team trying ti kill its coach, its was awful.

    I am pleased that Eben did not take the Sharp baiting with the constant pushing and Sharpe use of the knee on Eben 3 times. The worst been an instant red for use of a shoulder to Eben from the side of the ruck in his back. TMO sucks shit.

    Taute and Goose we good and will learn a lot. They both attacked and varied play. Now just for a few more laaitjies.

    We really should have had a recors score in this game as the Aussies were there for the taking and it should have been a big win.

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 3:53 am: Experience due to been selected over a better player at the Boks, he is not faster, he slipped a tackle and was out of position once in this game and last weeks he was worse. Zane is mediocre but dependable and this has been whats wrong with HM’s selections.

    No Bryce, jugding from the crowds at Loftus every one knows Lambie is better than Sideshowbob, except HM of course.

    So stats please on
    He kicks clearances further than Lambie and most in RSA
    He’s arguably faster.

  30. Reply to Kevin Rack @ 5:57 am:

    So now all of a sudden you are rating the fans in the stands at Loftus as more knowledgeable than HM and the entire Bok selection panel… that’s a laugh a minute.

    It’s mere ‘fan feel’ that Lambie should be in his place… and where are YOUR stats to prove my points above otherwise?

    Guess who the international panel at PlanetRugby had as their choice 15 for the Rugby Championship this week over Israel Dagg… yep…

    Other than ‘fan-feel’ it’s much of a muchness between the two and other than injury watching the last two tests there is zero reason to drop him…

  31. Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 6:17 am:

    And if you want some stats not ‘fan-feel’… most pundits are calling for Lambie’s inclusion over ZK is because he’d ‘create’ more for the Boks on attack/counter-attack…

    Why then in the S15 this season was…

    >ZK in the T20 try-scorer’s list… Lambie was not
    >ZK number 1 for try-assists… Lambie not in the T20
    >ZK in the T20 line-break assists list… Lambie was not
    >ZK made more run metres than Lambie
    >ZK made more line-breaks than Lambie

    In fact based on all the stats at hand the only reason Lambie could/should even make the team is on his goal-kicking and tactical kicking (from the few games he started at 10)…

    Lambie has been capped 5 times this season with zero tries, Kirchner has been capped 6 times this season with two tries…

    Pull the other one…

  32. Reply to biltongbek @ 8:25 am:

    It’s not a Lambie-hunt… I’m a fan (maybe less so at 15) the above can be used in comparison’s with any of the RSA 15’s this year…

    The point remains there is zero reason HM should simply drop ZK on the mug-punter’s ‘hunches’ on the above…

  33. Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:10 am:

    I’m a big Lambie fan but I have to agree that Zane did nothing wrong to deserve to be dropped. I prefer Lambie at 10 in any case.

    Even at the Sharks he would not be my first choice 15. Ludik is playing the best rugby of his life at the moment.

  34. If I was Bambie I would do a Frans Steyn, Raun Pienaar and leave the Sharks… go play in Europe or other province, how many players did Sharks messed up before Bambie?

    The chap has been moved around by Dumtrea so many times in the backs he does not even know anymore which position is the one for him.

    No way he could replace Zain on performance

  35. My only criticism of Zane is that he reverts all too easily back to his take two steps and hoof the ball as high as you can playing style once the pressure gets applied to his team. Not good kicking for position, but just an aimless up-and-under hoping for the best.

    The moment his team is on the front foot however, he really does play well.

  36. Bryce you are preaching to either the converted or the kind of fans who like to see players running and for whom they get a “feeling” he could be good instead on actual scientific cool unfeeling stats. The latter pretend stats don’t matter.

  37. Reply to Craven @ 11:03 am:

    You have to ask whether it’s ‘his’ decision that… I don’t really think so… there have been many frustrating instances where he could have backed himself more on the counter…

    Reply to Jacques(Bunny)Morne Steyn is Baas @ 11:00 am:

    I dunno mate… IMO he is exactly the type of player I’d like on my bench in this 22man 85min game being able to excel at 10,12 and 15 at any stage of the game whether on the front-foot or under pressure (he has exceptional composure)… it must be frustrating (for him) though to have been leap-frogged by Goosen and Jantjes in his prefered possie…

    Reply to DavidS @ 12:19 pm:

    But of course…

  38. I am very concerned by the lack of composure Lambie has shown in his deportment with the media. It suggests a lack of maturity off the field.

  39. Just as I tweet that it looks like the bookies didn’t pay Pakistan enough to lose, they lose 2 quick wickets
    108/4 after 15 overrs

  40. Reply to DavidS @ 1:11 pm:

    Unfortunately any positive computation from here on will see RSA having to beat IND, PAK on net run-rates… and that’s one thing they have never been devastating at in T20…

  41. Australia 59/4 after 12 overs….bye bye Proteas!

    The Proteas will probably thump India later because they will not have any pressure on them because they will already have been eliminated. :dead horse:

  42. Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 1:41 pm:

    Bryce, some two weeks ago there
    was a long piece in which Lambie
    voiced his displeasure about
    forever being on the bench – and
    then not alllowed to play for the
    Guppies either (where he is also
    messed around).

    If I were him I’d be looking at
    a contract in Oz or Europe.

  43. Its only a matter of time before Lambie gets an overseas contract. HM barred him from playing for the Sharks to get much valued game time and therefore when he comes on he is rusty and HM can say I told you so.

    HM has done what Jake the snake and Pdiddy have done, treated some players very poorly.

    I say Lambie go overseas cos its the bench for you mate fr r the boks.
    Sad as he has a rare asset in rugby, his calmness and quick thinking.
    He has been one of the leaders in technique on the high ball which other players, finally after so many years, take the ball in the air and not stand and receive anymore.

  44. Hoessit, Tjops.

    PappaPiepieMier, wie het jou oor die kop gewetter met ‘n Afrikaanse woordeboek?! Ek sien jy skryf deesdae amper meer in Die Taal as in Engels, mooi man!. …En poepolle wat babbels hap, nogal ne! (glo nie die artikel is vir die koerante bedoel nie!)

    Only saw the hi-lites, still want to check the game. Aus was depleted, glad about the win, little bit of momentum and guys that palyed well.

    Nou ja, ek het amper weer klas. Dag ek loer net gou in om te kyk watse akkies julle alles praat na die wen.
    Cheers eers
    :jester:

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