Springboks 16 v All Blacks 32

45 Comments

1. DavidS says:
   October 6th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

   So Koning Rosegoosen fails… luckily Jantjes is on hand to take over and with his first two kicks gets a 100% kicking record to take the lead back for the Boks after Goosen misses two out of three.

   16-12 Bokke at HT

2. Boertjie says:
   October 6th, 2012 at 5:50 pm

   DON’T give them quick ball!
   HT 16-12

3. DavidS says:
   October 6th, 2012 at 6:05 pm

   52 min
   19-16 AB’s

4. DavidS says:
   October 6th, 2012 at 6:25 pm

   29-16 AB’s with ten to go

5. DavidS says:
   October 6th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

   32-16 AB’s after 72 mins…

   Hahahahahahaha!!!!

   Met al die Stormers media se veranderinge en ‘n home game kry die Bokke ‘n p03$klap…

   Wonder wat Bekke nou gaan kwytraak….

   Alles Heyneke se skuld no doubt.

6. biltongbek says:
   October 6th, 2012 at 6:47 pm

   We’re simply not there yet, our backline misfired completely on attack and defence.

   Pisspoor.

7. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
   October 6th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

   Reply to DavidS @ 6:36 pm:
   Jou obsessie met die Kaapse media is lankal vervelig. Heyneke kies die span, nie die Kaapse media nie. Wil jy die Kaapse media die skuld vir die verloor gee? Dink jy Heyneke lees ‘n paar Kaapse koerante en kies dan sy span vervolgens? Daai aartappelskyfie op jou skouer raak elke dag groter.

   Jantjies en Goosen was omtrent ewe goed, 2 uit 4 vir elkeen. Ek twyfel steeds nie dat Jantjies en Goosen die toekoms is nie. As jy dink Morne Steyn sou vandag ‘n verskil gemaak het dan wonder ek oor jou objektiwiteit.

   In my nederige opinie is die Bokke vandag bloot deur ‘n beter span geklop wat weet om hulle geleenthede te gebruik.

   As ek so sinies soos jy was sou ek een van jou Leeu spelers Taute blameer het vir 2 All Black driee, een vir ‘n powere lynskop, en een vir ‘n patetiese duikslag saam met Andries Bekker op Israel Dagg. Maar ek glo steeds Taute is briljant en gaan ‘n legende word.

8. Bekke says:
   October 6th, 2012 at 7:18 pm

   Shame DavidS, for you it’s still a provinsial issue, whereas the rest of us (excluding PissParade president bryce) support our country. You were clearly too pissed to realise the rot set in the second Goose got injured.

9. Boertjie says:
   October 6th, 2012 at 7:22 pm

   Iemand moet nou iets doen – die gaping tussen
   hierdie dose en die res van die wêreld raak
   nou te groot.

   Bokke kort ‘n verdedigingsafrigter en ‘n
   aanvalsafrigter.
   Bokke was uiters naïef.

10. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Wil net weereens dit duidelik stel dat In my opinie Heyneke hierdie jong Bokke in ‘n briljante span gaan ontwikkel. Al die tekens is daar, ons moet geduldig wees.

11. DavidS says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    Reply to Vetgesmeerde Blits @ 7:15 pm:

    Ek doen al twee weke aan die hand dat veranderinge aan die span in meeste geval presies is wat die media in die Kaap aanvra en welke nie werk nie. Goosen is ‘n mislukking gewees in twee agtereenvolgende toets wedstryde.

    Insgelyks ten spyte van dominante oorheersing in Dunedin kon die Springbokke nie vandag insgelyke oorheersing bewerkstellig nbie en dit hoog bo seevlak in 30′C hitte.

    Twee dinge is duidelik

    1. Die afrigter swig voor media kritiek
    2. Die post dominasie periode het begin. Die Bokke is oppad na Zimbabwe krag toe.

    Daar is nie ‘n manier waarop ons ‘n Cruden en Barrett het wat maklik in Carter se plek inglip nie.

    Heyneke kan nie ‘n dominante span ontwikkel nie juis omdat daar nie meer talent oor is om te kom jie… die poel raak al kleiner en kleiner.

    Aus en NS oppad na dieselfde toe. Aus eerste en dan NS. Die tydperk van Europese geldelike dominasie is oppad.

    Dit het niks met provinsialisme te doen soos sekere dom dose hier glo nie.

    Feit is dat daar aan Heyneke Meyer ‘n gemors gegee is en verwag is dat hy soos ‘n necromancer dit soos ‘n rugby span moet laat lyk. En daar is geen genoegsaam talentvolle spelers oor om enigsins ‘n verskil te kan maak nie. Min genoeg wat deur die ontwikkeling stelsels kom.

12. Jacques(Bunny)Morne Steyn is Baas says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Oom boer hulle het verdedigings afrigter, van die Bulls, die wedstryd wys hoe swak Aussies laas week was, ons agterlyn kort afrigting meer as net skop as jy in die kak is met die scoreboard, de villiers moet asb nou fokof.

13. Jacques(Bunny)Morne Steyn is Baas says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Reply to Vetgesmeerde Blits @ 7:26 pm: wat het verander van span om hulle nou jonk te maak? Morne uit en Frans beseer?

    Span is dieselfde as wat begin het en dieselfde gameplan teen die AB skop hulle net weer alles weg

14. DavidS says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    Jy kan nie ‘n meesterbouer verskaf met ‘n plas kak en dan de moer in raak as hy nie Westminster vir jou kan bou nie.

15. Boertjie says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 7:37 pm:

    Feit is dat daar aan Heyneke Meyer ‘n gemors gegee is en verwag is dat hy soos ‘n necromancer dit soos ‘n rugby span moet laat lyk.
    ——–
    HM het sy eie afrigtingspan gekies.

    Two words to describe Bok rugby:
    UTTERLY PREDICTABLE.
    It’s either pick-and-go, or maul.

    The ONLY piece of innovation was from ONE
    short lineout, where they employed the
    loosies standing off, with Alberts striking
    the gap.

    Is there a term for the style of defence
    they employed today?
    (Useless does not count.)

    All four AB tries looked as if they were
    scored against the C-team of the Rising Sunsets.

16. DavidS says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    MAW die Bokke is geheel outclassed… soos ‘n span in decline.

    So jy stel ‘n meesterbouer aan en gee hom carte blanche om sy eie ambagsmanne aan te stel en dan gee jy hom ‘n hoop hondekak om Empire State Building mee te bou?

17. DavidS says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    O en Bekke

    Koning Rosegoosen het 30% skop rekord… en dis die tweede toets waar hy skop soos sy gat…

    Om hom op of af die veld te haal het geen verskil gemaak nie.

18. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 7:37 pm:Jammer vir my taal, maar jy praat kak. As jy regtig glo dat Heyneke hom deur die Kaapse media laat beinvloed het toe hy die span gekies het is Heyneke ‘n swakkeling wat onmiddelik moet bedank. Ek glo egter nie vir een oomblik jou gerieflike ‘conspirasiy theorie’ nie. Hel, hoekom moet ons Heyneke blameer? Die man wat van die begin af niks in jou oe kon verkeerd doen nie. Kom ons blameer sommer eerder die Kaapse media. Hulle kies mos die span. Hoe gerieflik.

    En jou probeerslag om Goosen die mislukking te noem is nog meer power as jou bogenoemde argument. Hy was ‘n massiewe verbetering op die van vorm af Steyn verlede week, terwyl hy hierdie week vroeg beseer is. Jy is natuurlik tjoepstil oor Taute en Jantjies. Weereens hoe ongelooflik gerieflik.

    Dit lyk baie duidelik asof jy eerder sien wat jy wil he moet gebeur, as wat in werklikheid gebeur.

19. DavidS says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Reply to Vetgesmeerde Blits @ 8:22 pm:

    Lees jy koerante Blits?

    Hoe vel is hy gekritiseer weens te veel Bulle (uit nou), te veel Sharks (ook nou minder), nie genoeg Stormers (meer by), Goosen, hy’s by, die “fetcher” ding (by), Eben Etzebeth (in), Marcelle Coetzee (uit), Juan De Jongh (in) en natuurlik Morne Steyn en Francois Hougaard.

    En baie coaches luister na die media. Eddie Jones, Jake White, Rudolph Straueli, Carel Du Plessis, Harry Viljoen, Gert Smal, en ek laat my nie vertel hulle is swakkelinge nie.

    Jy moet bietjie mooi lees.

    ALMAL IS KAK

    Nie Goosen of Taute of Kitchner nie… Taute is g’n Jacque Fourie, Stirling Mortlock Brian ‘O Driscoll of Conrad Smith nie.

    Nie Jantjes of Goosen is Carter nie en hulle sal nooit wees nie. Hulle is nie eers Morne Steyn gehalte nie. Hulle is kak.

    Hoekom?

    Want die atlentpoel droog fokken op!

    Miskien as jy teruggaan na my poste sedert 2007 sal jy sien dat ek dit al van toe af skryf. Ons is or die algemeen in decline en dis nou maar die Afrika manier.

20. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 8:34 pm:
    Ek lees die koerante. Maar ek glo steeds nie jou gerieflike swak teorie dat Heyneke koerante raadpleeg vir spankeuses nie. Hy ‘n sterk man, nie ln ja-broer swakkeling nie. Hy het Morne ondersteun totdat hy heeltemal uit die bus uit geval het. Jake White het nooit geswig en vir Etienne Botha, Schalk Brits of Luke Watson(uit vrye wil) gekies soos wat die media wou he nie. Is Jake ‘n sterker man as Heyneke? Ek glo dit nie vir een oomblik nie. Heyneke het van die begin af gese hy sou Goosen gekies het as hy nie beseer was nie. En Goosen en Jantjies is as 20 en 22 jariges onderskeidelik 3 keer die klas wat Steyn op daai ouderdom was, so probeer ‘n ander swak argument.

    Moenie die blaam probeer skuif nie, dit werk glad nie. Geen ondersteuner met ‘n bietjie kennis gaan dit glo nie.

    En net so terloops ek glo Taute kan net so goed soos Fourie word. Goosen en Jantjies kan baie beter as Steyn word, en Coetsee en Etzebeth kan Bok legendes word.

21. biltongbek says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    Ek dink hier is n’ bietjie oor reaksie.

    Ons weet nou die All Blacks is huidiglik net beter as ons. Vraag beantwoord.

    Mens kan nie vir Taute, Goosen of Jantjies blameer nie. Ons verdediging styl het verander vir die game, ek weet nie hoekom nie, maar dit het misluk. Gewoonlik rush ons op en drift dan saam met die bal drawr, vanannd het ons te wyd gestaan en dan binne toe probeer verdedig, New Zealand het net eenvoidig tussen die gate ingehardloop en dir support runner kon kies waar die swak skouer is wat hulle wil aanval. So goed as Habana is hy het beitjie droog gemaak op verdediging.

    Kirchner is alweer platvoet gevang op verdediging.

    Meyer sal nou weet waar die foute begaan is.

22. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    Die talentpoel is dalk nog nie ryp nie, maar ek laat my nie vertel dat die talent besig is om op te droog nie. Kyk na die onder 20 bokke Marcell Coetzee, Etzebeth, Goosen, Jantjies, Pollard, Andries Coetzee, Arno Botha, Paul Jordaan, Jan Serfontein, Rhule ens. Ons gaan ‘n goue era tegemoet.

23. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    David, wat is jou Bok 22tal sonder die Kaapse joernaliste as keurders?

24. DavidS says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Dit maak nie saak watse 22tal ek sou kies nie. Nie een van die huidige groep is eintlik goed genoeg om die klas van bv 2004 of 1998 of 2009 te vervang nie.

    Dis doodeenvoudig ‘n feit dat ons nie meer oor genoegsame talentvolle spelers beskik om te kompeteer met NS nie.

    En dis weens talent dreinering.

    Die hele stelsel is ‘n gemors van die grond af.

    Goosen, Serrfontein, Jordaan en kie lyk net goed teen provinsiale spanne wat sonder Bokke speel.

    Waar is die nuwe Victor Matfield = daar is nie een nie
    En Fourie Du Preez / Joost = geen
    Henri Honnibal = geen
    Bryan Habana van 2005 = nie meer nie
    Morne Steyn 2009 = deur ons gatte getrek
    Schalk Burger? Moenie my laat lag nie
    Juan Smith = niks
    Mark Andrews = niks
    John Smit = Ha fokke ha
    Percy Montgomery = niks
    Jaque Fourie = ek lag in jou gesig as jy voorstel Serfontein of Jordaan sal ooit eers sy gat kan lek
    Danie Rossouw = geen
    Gary Teichman = JDV en enige iemand anders is nie nie sy poep werd as kapteins nie
    Andre Venter = niemand het sy commitment nie
    Rueben Kruger = geen sulke krag nie

    Ek kan aangaan maar die feit is elke generasie van Bokke het sterre wat #1 in hulle posisie internasionaal is … hierdie is die eerste keer dat ons ‘n gehele 22tal het waar geen sodanige spelers bestaan nie. GEEN.

25. DavidS says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    Kom ons draai die vraag om.

    Hoeveel Suid Afrikaners van die huidige span sou JY in ‘n Globale Beste XV kies?

26. Boertjie says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    DAWIE:

    Droom ek nou, of het jy ‘n paar
    maande gelede vir ons vertel hoe
    kak en op die afdraand NS rugby is?

    Reply to DavidS @ 9:59 pm:

    Nie een nie. Dalk Habana in ‘n goeie agterlyn.
    Die beseerde Bismarck op sy beste.

27. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 9:59 pm:
    Ek dink ons is ongeduldig. Spelers soos Bakkies, Matfield, Fourie du Preez, Jaques Fourie en Andre Venter was nie werelklas legendes as 19, 20 jariges nie. Dit het hulle jare gevat om hulle reoutasies op te bou.

    Etzebeth is 20, toe Bakkies 20 was het hy nog Vodacom Cup rugby vir die Valke gespeel. Matfield was sover ek weet toe ‘n leenspeler by Griekwas. Mark Andrews was beslis nog nie eers naby die Natal span op 20 nie.

    Jaques Fourie was nie veel beter as Taute as ‘n 20 jarige nie. Hy was toe by die 2003 wereldbeker, maar baie onafgerond.

    Morne Steyn was ‘n onder 21 speler by die Bulle toe hy 20 was. Goosen begin vir die Bokke. Ek gee nie om wat jy se nie, maar Goosen het meer talent in sy pinkie vingernael as wat Morne ooit gehad het. Gee hom kans.

    Marcel Coetzee is as 20 jarige baie beter as Andre Venter op dieselfde ouderdom. Venter het sover ek onthou eers op 25 of 26 sy Bok debuut gemaak.

    Jan Serfontein is 19. Hy het verlede jaar matriek geskryf. Om van om te verwag om in die uiterse fisiese posisie van binnesenter te domineer in die CB is uiters onrealisties. Hy is die beste u 20 speler in die wereld en kan n Bok grote word.

    Rhule is ook 19, en kan maklik die volgende Habana wees.

    Pieter Steph du Toit kan ‘n volgende Danie Russouw(selfs beter word) en Paul Willemse nog ‘n Kobus Wiese. Verbeel jou ‘n 26 jarige Etzebeth as ‘n 5 slot en ‘n 25 jarige Willemse op 4 as n slotpaar oor 5 jaar. Vreesaanjaend.

    Op stut het ons ‘n 20 jarige Stephen Kitshoff en Nicolaas van Dyk.

    Hel, ons het vir die eerste keer sedert 2005 die beste u 20 spelers in die wereld.

    Ek stem glad nie saam dat ons talent kort nie, ek dink ons talent lyk die beste in baie jare.

28. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    October 6th, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 9:59 pm: Hababa kan naby kom. Etzebeth is baie sterk oppad soontoe, sal daar wees voor 23. Dalk Willem Alberts. Definitief Bismark as hy fiks is.

    Ek het jou vraag beantwoord. Watter beskikbare Bok 22 sou vandag beter gedoen het?

29. bryce_in_oz says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 1:49 am

    Reply to Vetgesmeerde Blits @ 10:40 pm:

    There is none…

30. Boertjie says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 2:57 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 1:49 am:

    Jip. Without Spies and Potgieter and
    Greyling this was the best available
    22.

31. DavidS says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 7:42 am

    Reply to Boertjie @ 10:11 pm:

    Ek staan daarby Boer.

    Ek het dit bo geskryf ook. Die magbalans skuif noord. Ons en NS en Aus gaan volgende wees om soos Samoa en Tonga verkrag te word van ons talent.

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 1:49 am:

    Dead right. We have NO players in the 22. It is immaterial who was selected.

32. DavidS says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 7:43 am

    Blits ek het jou reeds geantwoord.

    Dit maak nie saak nie want niemand is goed genoeg nie.

33. Craven says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 8:34 pm:

    Wow, net wow.

    Eweskielik volgens jou is al ons spelers kak? Nice.

    Dis nagals jammer, maar ek sal ‘n nota maak om jou kommentaar van nou af met ‘n bietjie sout te neem.

34. Timeo says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Reply to Vetgesmeerde Blits @ 7:15 pm:

    Goosen has loads of talent yes, but it will help very little if he spends most of the next 10 years injured.

    Which he will. Most ball carrying fly-halfs do and he seems more fragile than most.

    Jantjes looks great in CC where there’s lots of space. Above that, he has never made any impact. His angle runs and pop passes fools no-one in SR and will never fool anyone above that. His tactical kicking is poor, which makes his only real asset at top-level rugby to be short-range place kicks.

    Our fly-half woes are far from over. Lambie perhaps! If the Sharks will play him there in SR, we’d have better options next year.

35. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    I agree that Goosen is fragile, he had far to many injuries for such a young player. That is also what makes Morne so dependable, I cannot recall him ever being injured, wich is good.

    I would like to see Jantjies in a more dominant Super rugby team before making any judgement on his capabilities at that level. He showed a lot of composure yesterday, and I like his agressive, fearless tackling.

    Lambie needs more time at 10.

    I also think our flyhalf problems is not sorted out.

    I do not however agree with the posters above that all the players are bad. There is loads of young talent that can only get better with time.

36. Boertjie says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    So Pollard must be our next golden boy hope at 10.

37. Timeo says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Reply to Vetgesmeerde Blits @ 6:41 pm:

    The reason Morne stays healthy, he stands deep and rarely carries the ball into contact is the very same reason so many fans don’t want him. If you want to build a game around a fly-half, you need him to be on the field and on his feet. The the reason why, Naas Botha was so reluctant to tackle in the latter part of his career.

    If you want to play with ball carrying fly-halfs you need two or three of roughly equal abilities. NZ and Aus have those. SA do not and will probably never have. The best career move for Goosen would be model himself more on Morne Steyn and save his beautiful running for when it’s really on.

38. Timeo says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    Reply to Vetgesmeerde Blits @ 6:41 pm:

    I think that in the near future, we are going to look back to this year and with hind-sight realize that in 2012, Goosen was too young to play Super or Test rugby.

    Which points to the opposite of your assumption. The reason we are excited about young talent is that there is such a lack of it in the generation right in front of them. Between Bakkies and Etsebet is +10 years and nobody.

39. Timeo says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 7:18 pm:

    The savior of the Boks is always the next young player…….No wait, not him, it’s the next………..No. No. Really the next, next.

    But Pollard signed with the Bulls remember. That automatically puts him in the “useless” or “limited” categories.

40. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    October 7th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Reply to Timeo @ 7:45 pm: Did you watch the u/20 world cup? Did you see how the young Bokke destroyed the All Blacks. Jakes Champion side had its roots in the 2002 WC winning u/21 side.
    These young Boks are just as good if not better than the 2002 side. Players like Serfontein, Pollard, Small Smith, Howard, Kitshoff, Liebenberg, Nicolaas van Dyk, Paul Willemse, Ruan Botha, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Paul Jordaan an Rhule is the best crop of junior players for many many years.

    Add to that Eben Etzebeth, Marcell Coetzee, Siya Kolisi, Johan Goosen, Arno Botha, Elton Jantjies, Frans Malerbe, Marcell van der Merwe, Francios Venter, Andries Coetzee, Piet van Zyl and JP du Plessis. All of them 22 years old and younger.

    A lot of these guys are going to become Bokke within the next few years.

    I just dont buy this doom and gloom about the talent of our young and future Boks.

41. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    October 8th, 2012 at 12:10 am

    Reply to Timeo @ 7:55 pm:
    Meyer put his faith in Goosen, I think he is going to back him. No need to talk up any new young flyhalfs. If Goosen can stay injury free he might just be first choice for the rest of Heynekes tenure. And please, by saying injury free, I don’t meen hiding deep in the pocket like Steyn has been doing lately.
    Goosen is definately not a ball in hand flyhalf. He is a balanced flyhalf. That means he can play more than one way and vary his game enough to keep opponents guessing, thus making his outside backs far more dangerous. One flyhalf that can kick and attack. Wow. I know this a foreign concept in South Africa. But in South Africa it seems we don’t do balance, we do one dimentional. Add another layer and we are parylized by fear of the unknown.

    To make a judgement on Goosen after 1 and a half games would be stupid.

42. DavidS says:
    October 8th, 2012 at 9:33 am

    Reply to Vetgesmeerde Blits @ 12:10 am:

    Despite Morne Steyn being the second highest scorer in SR in the backline with two players in the top 10 try scorers he was ajudged useless after ONE game…

    So who is stupid?

43. biltongbek says:
    October 8th, 2012 at 10:09 am

    Reply to DavidS @ 9:33 am: David, do you still want Morne as the starting 10?

44. Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    October 8th, 2012 at 10:10 am

    Reply to DavidS @ 9:33 am: One game? Wich game was that? Morne had 3 seasons as the Bok 10, and I surely don’t think he is useless. Do you still think Heyneke wanted to keep Morne after his string of below par performances and destroy his confidence even more? Een en ‘n halwe wedstryde vir Goosen en jy is uit jou vel uit van opgewondenheid omdat hy kwansuis misluk het. Heyneke glo in Goosen, anders sou hy hom nie so gou na sy besering gekies het nie. Jy sal maar daaraan gewoond moet raak. Maar jy blameer mos die Kaapse media dat Goosen gekies is, dis nie Heyneke wat glo hy kan die Bokke se wedstrydwenner word nie.

    Jy raak ‘n spieelbeeld van die ondersteuners wat wil he Heyneke moet misluk.

45. Methos The French Stormer says:
    October 8th, 2012 at 10:21 am

    Jislaaik outjies.

    Gooi nou sommer die baba saam met die badwater uit en f#k alles?

    Bietjie kalmte is wat dit gaan vat van almal af. Hoe dikwels wen ons teen die All-Blacks? Nie veel nie ne? En nou is almal swak en niemand is goed genoeg om eens sokker te speel nie?

    DavidS
    Morne Steyn has been expieriencing a bad patch. Even against England the guy was already tired. You simply can’t play for 3 years non stop and not get fooked mentally and physically. You have to get it up every weekend mentally with out a break – no-one can do this. It is impossible.

    We have a very young team now. How many of our players played in the WC? Legends of the game has moved on. Bakkies, Matfield, Smit, Fourie du Preez, Rossouw, Jacque Fourie.

    Then look at our injury list: Brossouw, Pietersen, Burger, Juan Smith, Bismarck etc.

    Bring back all these guys and suddenly we have a team with loads of expierience and cooler heads to calm down the young ones.

    Look at the youth guys coming through. The U 20 side that won the WC. Ethzebet, Goosen, Jantjies etc.

    The future is bright. It is Heyneke’s first season in charge. He doesn’t have a magic wand to wave over the team and boom everything is 100%.

    Added to that is the fact that we can’t for some reason see that the future of the game is off-loads… The giving of them and the defending against them. Our only try on Saturday came from an offload. One of the All Black tries also. Why aren’t everybody learning this skill. Because that is what it is. A skill that can be learned. Also the running off the offloader. Go check some of Sonny Bill’s games now in Japan – he doesn’t have the same impact because while he is ready for the offload there aren’t anybody putting themselves in position top receive it. The offload caqn be the difference between a try or just another ruck.

    Cheers