Brutal Boks rated

November 17, 2012
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The Springboks made it two from two on their end-of-year tour with a 21-10 win over a spirited Scotland side at Murrayfield on Saturday.

It was another step in the right direction for Heyneke Meyer’s charges whose inexperience showed as they crept back into their shell and defended their lead in the final quarter.

It won’t go down as a Springbok performance to remember nor was it a particularly sweet measure of revenge for the 2010 defeat, but it was another important step in the development of this Springbok squad.

Quintin van Jaarsveld, Rugby365 rates the Springbok players.

15 Zane Kirchner
While he did little wrong, he didn’t bring anything to the table and at Test level, one has to add value to earn your keep.
5.5/10

14 JP Pietersen
Made a statement with his aggressive defence. Hardly had an opportunity to stretch his legs on attack.
6/10

13 Juan de Jongh
With the little ball he got – one solitary attacking opportunity – he showed just what a difference an attacking midfielder brings to the table. He asked questions of the Scottish defence with his footwork and should have been brought into play much more often.
6.5/10

12 Jean de Villiers
As he has matured, De Villiers has developed into a one-dimensional player which eliminates several attacking possibilities. As such, defenders know exactly what to expect from the Springbok skipper. With that in mind, De Villiers succeeded in crashing over the advantage line and giving the visitors go-forward ball and he was outstanding on defence.
7.5/10

11 Francois Hougaard
Injected pace and created opportunities for his support runners with his good stepping. In hindsight, considering the Springboks’ attacking mentality, he would have been more effective starting at No.9.
6.5/10

10 Pat Lambie
The conditions and opposition were ideal for Lambie to weave his attacking brilliance. He failed to seize the opportunity as he took the ball to the line twice all game and his kicking out of hand was not up to standard.
5/10

9 Ruan Pienaar
Arguably his poorest Test as starting scrumhalf this year. Certainly in the first half the Springboks were intent on running the ball, and while his speed to the ball was satisfactory, he was simply a link to the backline. When he did kick he was off-target.
6/10

8 Duane Vermeulen
His high workrate saw him make 13 tackles and frustrate the Scots at the breakdown. Will have to work on his ball-carrying though. 7/10

7 Willem Alberts
An unstoppable force and reliable source on phase one/two ball and won ground on defence in the way he forced ball-carriers back with his brute strength.
7.5/10

6 Francois Louw
Exceptional on the floor once again, making some key turnovers, and tireless on defence, with his 17 hits seeing him scoop the man of the match award.
8.5/10

5 Juandré Kruger
Flew under the radar but didn’t put a foot wrong all evening with four line-out takes and eight tackles.
7/10

4 Eben Etzebeth
A much better balanced game compared to last weekend. He was impressive once again in the line-outs but he also upped his workrate in the tight-loose and made some valuable contributions in this area of play. Carried the ball strongly as always.
7.5/10

3 Jannie du Plessis
One bad knock-on aside, Du Plessis had another solid outing and finally received a long overdo breather after 52 minutes.
7/10

2 Adriaan Strauss
Simply outstanding in all departments, Strauss produced a match-winning performance in the No.2 jersey. His line-out throwing was spot-on as per usual, he played a brilliant support role as spoiler at the breakdown and bagged a brace.
8.5/10

1 Gurthrö Steenkamp
Can’t fault his scrummaging but his tackling technique was sloppy and allowed runners to bounce off his.
6.5/10

Replacements:

16 Schalk Brits (on for Strauss, 76th minute)
Not enough time to be rated.

17 Heinke van der Merwe (on for Steenkamp, 61st minute)
Not enough time to be rated.

18 CJ van der Linde (on for Du Plessis, 52nd minute)
Had an absolute mare at scrum time.
3/10

19 Flip van der Merwe (on for Kruger, 68th minute)
Not enough time to be rated.

20 Marcell Coetzee (on for Alberts, 53rd minute)
Made a significant impact off the bench with his world-class work ethic and intensity.
7/10

21 Morné Steyn (on for Lambie, 73rd minute)
Not enough time to be rated.

22 Jaco Taute
Not used.

23 Lwazi Mvovo
Not used.

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34 Comments

  1. avatar Americano says:
    November 18th, 2012 at 2:42 am

    Not seen game yet but…

    CJ-VDL gets a 3? Surely better options exist out there no?

    I know that with tests that care needs to be made in insuring a win before experimentation but I wish Taute got in at FB for a bit of time as a sub for SideShow Bob.

  2. avatar Duiwel says:
    November 18th, 2012 at 3:17 am

    Oh bullshit.
    They looked fkn clueless.
    French props have better ball skills
    Than any bok backlineplayer.
    The bokke are fkn directionless,without any ballskills,
    useless handling,pathetic at pace.
    Just playing like stupid,one dimensional peaces of
    meat,struggling to execute basics and predictable.
    One word to sum up bok tour?
    Dumb.
    Fkn dumb

  3. avatar Duiwel says:
    November 18th, 2012 at 3:24 am

    Two tries from Vincent Clerc and 24 points from the boot of Frederic Michalak gave France a 39-22 win over Argentina in Lille.
    A pulsating first-half produced 37 points, including four tries, as France fought back from a fast start by Los Pumas.
    Michalak kicked France 3-0 in front after just three minutes before Argentina came roaring back to lead 13-3.
    An initial break from Gonzalo Tiesi allowed Marcelo Bosch to race under the posts for the game’s opening try before Nicolas Sanchez added the extras and then kicked two penalties to establish a 10-point advantage for the visitors.
    That lead lasted just four minutes however as French wing Vincent Clerc crossed for two tries in the space of two minutes, the first taking him past Philippe Saint-Andre in France’s all-time try-scoring list.
    Michalak converted both and made it three out of three when flanker Yannick Nyanga scorched to the line despite two defenders on his back in the 34th minute.
    After 21 unanswered points put France 24-13 up at the break, Argentina needed a lift early in the second half and got it when Sanchez kicked a superb penalty.
    That cut the gap to eight but they could never close it further as Sanchez, who ended with 17 points, and Michalak traded penalties and drops.
    But with the score 30-22, it was France who finished the stronger and three more Michalak penalties ensured a comfortable final passage and gave the hosts two wins from two in November following their 33-6 rout of Australia.

  4. avatar Duiwel says:
    November 18th, 2012 at 3:27 am

    Both sides looked like capable rugby players
    Instead of m bunch of lomp,rigtinglose poepolle met springboktruie

  5. avatar damneddutch says:
    November 18th, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Agree Duiwel. HM is fkn clueless. Absolutely no joy in watching Springbok rugby any more.

  6. avatar biltongbek says:
    November 18th, 2012 at 8:53 am

    It is with a serious amount of frustration that I watched South Africa see off a spirited second half performance from the Scots last night.

    Heyneke Meyer said after the first match again England in June which had 20 minute period where South Africa would have obliterated any team on the planet that there must be a 5% improvement in every game.

    Sadly those twenty minutes has still been the best of what we have seen from his charges.

    There are certain things we accept from South African rugby and in all honesty I would not want to see that changed in any way whatsoever.

    We have big strong forwards, we have a good line out, a decent scrum and our backrow, no matter the number of injuries will always be on par with the best out there.

    The physicality of the Boks can and should never be underestimated and rightfully so. There are occasions where the backrow does let the team down in the breakdowns by not committing enough numbers as we saw against England in the thrid test, Argentina in Mendoza and Australia in Perth.

    On those three occasions we were dominated at ruck time and struggled.

    At least that is not an insurmountable problem and was corrected there after.

    However that is where the good news ends.

    Firstly the Springbok backline has now reached the point where Ruan Pienaar, Zane Kirchner and Jean de Cilliers must never again wear the Bok jersey.

    As much as Ruan Pienaar is respected in Europe, he simply is not the guy that will take Bok rugby to new hights, Jean de Villiers is strong yes, but the most limited distributing 12 in world rugby, I cannot express my frustration more unless I was permitted to string along four letter words and explitives aplenty.

    Apart from the fact that he doesn’t pass, the bloke simply has zero vision and the crashball is his only weapon, ontop of that he has no boot and therefor he becomes a liability because of his limitations that makes him ultra predictable.

    Zane Kirchner is another, similar in running style to Jean de Villiers with one exception, a percieved goose step which only he believes fool defences. It makes him less effective than Jean de Villiers as he only manages to lose momentum and pace when he does his little two step.

    Yes the guy can kick, but with no plan or rhyme or reason behind his kicking.

    Ruan Pienaar loves to kick, maybe it works for Ulster, but it sure as hell isn’t working for South Africa.

    There was once again not one ball that went through the hands to JP Pietersen or Hougaard in the match against Scotland, as was the case in the previous match against Ireland.

    The monotony and predictability of the South African attack is now getting past the point of ridiculous. Rarely if ever are there more than one pass before the next ruck is setup, and every time there were two passes the result was a knock on. The forward pod running is fine but not every bloody time, and also not effective when the forward gets isolated because there are no support runners on his shoulder.

    There is no variation and it seems South Africa is doomed to forever be the most predictable team on planet Earth. They are not interested to exhibit any skills beyond running into the nearest man and seeing whether this will provide the desired result.

    i was embarresed tonight to see Scotland have more adventurous spirit than South Africa. What does it help we are trying new players ar pivot, when Pienaar still feeds the forward pod half the time, kicks another 30 percent of the time and then on occasion provides Lambie with slow ball.

    It almost suggests a conspiracy plotted by Meyer and his cohorts to deprive the playmakers of ball in order for them to remain ineffective.

    I am an armchair critic, however it astounds me and makes no common sense that the people running Springbok rugby does not reallise there is something wrong.

    I am so fedup I want to #^%{+] myself.

  7. avatar Boertjie says:
    November 18th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Reply to biltongbek @ 8:53 am:

    a percieved goose step which only he believes fool defences.
    :lol:
    South Africa is doomed to forever be the most predictable team on planet Earth.
    :lol: :lol:

  8. avatar Duiwel says:
    November 18th, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    Cape Town – Former coach Nick Mallett has urged the Springboks to “have a crack” and attempt to show off some new dimensions when they tackle Scotland in Edinburgh on Saturday (16:30 SA time).
    Speaking on the SuperSport rugby programme Boots & All, the outspoken Mallett said it remained all too apparent that the preferred Bok method was use of “the battering ram and broadsword rather than the rapier … we don’t use line-breaks”.

    He felt the time was right to broaden their battle-plan at Murrayfield against a team ranked ninth in the world.

    “If you’re not going to have a go at a team like Scotland then when are you? Against sides that can match us physically, we have got to show that we do have backline moves to score tries … (and demonstrate) a bit of deception.”

    While welcoming incumbent coach Heyneke Meyer’s inclusion of Juan de Jongh at outside centre, Mallett said he would have liked to see him go further by trying out Jaco Taute at fullback and Lwazi Mvovo at left wing and then giving them a licence for some enterprise.

    “If you are going to pick (Pat) Lambie at flyhalf, why ask him to kick up-and-unders? Let him attack the gain-line and try to get somebody like De Jongh into gaps.

    “By staying so structured, you might as well carry on with (Morne) Steyn who is good at that tactical kicking.”

    Mallett, whose late-1997 Bok side ran riot 68-10 at Murrayfield, said Scotland were probably of similar ability to the Irish side the Boks came from behind against to beat 16-12 in Dublin last weekend.

    “We can play an awful lot better than we did against Ireland, and hopefully win by 10 to 15 points.

    “They can’t shout from the rooftops about (last Saturday’s victory) … it was a shocking first half against a not particularly strong team and in the second, give them credit, the Boks were far more disciplined, (albeit) without attacking rugby.

    “These are desperate times if we can’t be favourites against a team ranked ninth or 10th.”

    Mallett agreed that a bright aspect of the turnaround against the Irish was the performance off the bench of Leinster-based loosehead prop Heinke van der Merwe.

    “I’ve always thought he was a fantastic scrummager, and he was unluckly a couple of years back to have his way blocked by Beast (Mtawarira) and Gurthro (Steenkamp).

    “JC Janse van Rensburg of the Lions has been unlucky too; he scrummed outstandingly and gave every tighthead in the Currie Cup a lot of trouble, and in Super Rugby too.

    “We are very fortunate at present to have lots of fine looseheads, if you throw in young (Steven) Kitshoff as well.”

  9. avatar out wide says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:39 am

    Reply to biltongbek @ 8:53 am: You have very eloquently stated what a lot of bok supporters feel.

    Two points however. First, if you drop Ruan Pienaar, who will you replace him with? I am not sure he is doing so badly and please, do not replace him with Hougaard. Rather leave him kicking his heels on the wing.

    Second, Mallett summed things up very well but I am not sure the brainless rugby the Boks play is all Meyer’s fault. It is his responsibility to recognise and correct the faults you sum up so well but the rot started under the previous coach’s watch. Your Bok criticisms explain why we lost to Aus at the RWC if supporters are brave enough not to hide behind the Bryce Lawrence excuse.

  10. avatar Timeo says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:44 am

    Kircher was the best back on the field.

    Without him the score would have been….. very different from how it was.

    He was solid and did absolutely everything 15 should do under the circumstances.

  11. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:21 am

    On track for the first clean sweep of a EOYT in a decade?

  12. avatar Mug Punters Organisation of South Africa says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 4:01 am

    Went fishing instead and missed the game.

    That’s really our of character for me as I have managed to watch games in Egypt, Malawi, Mozambique, Bali, any where in the world but I knew this tour is about 1 thing and 1 thing only. Win at all costs to get HM’s winng ratio’s up. Nothing more.

    HM is very disapointing indeed.

    Rebuidling, injuries blah blah blah. We suck at playing the running game because the coach should have chosen around Jake white time and not now. He is outdated.

    Hope to watch the game on you tube tonight.

  13. avatar Mug Punters Organisation of South Africa says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 4:02 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 1:21 am: good for HM but takes Bok planning back some what.

  14. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 7:22 am

    Reply to Mug Punters Organisation of South Africa @ 4:02 am:

    A clean-sweep is ground-breaking…

  15. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 9:16 am

    All comes down to the pom game again – if we lose it is a disaster IMO – no form, no progress and a loss to boot.

    If we win – a win is a win and the Bokke can at least build on the confidence gained by a clean sweep in the NH.

    Pity it has to come down to this to either make or break a season. :noshake:

  16. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 9:16 am:

    Yep… those two draws due to miss-kicks were costly… they’d be 8 from 11 now in rebuilding phase… better than Mallet and White…

  17. avatar Craven says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 1:21 am:

    “On track for the first clean sweep of a EOYT in a decade?”

    Sgort memory Bryce? The much maligned Peter de Villiers accomplished it on his first EOYT in 2008.

    England 6 – 42 South Africa
    Scotland 10 – 14 South Africa
    Wales 15 – 20 South Africa

  18. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 9:53 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:36 am:

    the current core of the team has potential and to think of a few names that will return at some point, Beast, Bismark, Burger (maybe), Habs not to mention the young centres like Jordaan etc. coming through the ranks…

    Not all doom and gloom – HM just needs to be more adventurous with his selection IMO and stop picking hasbeens like CJ! :bangheadt:

  19. avatar biltongbek says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    When you break it down to the finer bits, you come to realise that Meyer has done most of his experimentation with the forwards, there were more than 20 players tried and tested in the pack this year, and I think Meyer pretty much knows who can step up and who not.

    Those in my opinion that should not wear the Springbok jersey are CJ v d Linde – he was emaberressing this weekend, Dean Greyling, poor scrumaagr and ill disciplined, Werner Kruger useless and Jaque Potgieter.

    The jury is still out on Keegan Daniel and Juandre Kruger.

    Obviously due to injuries to Habana, Pietersen, Goosen and Frans Steyn Meyer took the conservative route with his backline.

    Hopefully it was always his plan to sort the forwards out fist and next year will be the backline.

  20. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 9:58 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:36 am:

    yes because without kickers at 80% this bok gameplan is just plain kak.

    Prepare to blame the kickers for many a year to come.

    Funny with Cruden kicking badly the AB’s still never lost because …wait for it…

    they can score tries

  21. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 10:16 am

    Reply to Craven @ 9:46 am:

    Hence the ‘question mark’… so half a decade then… and yes that same Snor that ‘lost’ to the Scots the last time they met… and with one of the most experienced Bok sides in the history of the game…

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 9:58 am:

    Bok backs are not and more than likely never will be a shade of the All Black backs… doesn’t mean HM should not try and recruit one of their (or Australia’s) backline guru’s because lets face it… Ricardo Loubser is merely making up numbers…

    And nope I didn’t blame the kickers for the draw’s… I blamed HM for persisting with them when Ruan Pienaar was in the side…

    8 from 11… could have been huge in rebuilding phase…

  22. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 10:16 am:

    why do we only look at results as sign of whether we are progressing or not?

    and why do we keep harping on about the players that are injured? The Burgers, Habanas, Steyns of this world were the same idiots who came 7th in the World Cup.

    Our gameplan and approach to the game is not improving. We dont need a win % to prove or disprove this.

  23. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 10:29 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 10:24 am:

    Results ARE everything from rugby to business… deal with it… and I’m well aware of the Bok deficiencies having posted on them ad nauseum from support-runners to why they don’t get quick ball…

    Who is harping on about injured players?

  24. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 10:29 am:

    I know results are everything in a business sense but HOW we beat Scotland surely counts for more than whether we actually beat them, or have we regressed that far that we take the win?

    Our play has not improved, win or no win – thats my point.

  25. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 11:12 am:

    if i have to read one more article that mentions (usually in brackets) the names of players unavailable to Heyneke I will puke.

    Most of those old guns are kak and has been for 2 years.

  26. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 11:14 am:

    I agree somewhat… but Bismark, Beast, Bekker, Frans and his top try-scorer Habana are all first choice players…

  27. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 11:23 am:

    they all came 7th in world cup. Hardly the stuff of legend

  28. avatar Boertjie says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 11:14 am:

    In a way, yes. SA has 350,000+ registered
    players. I believe Scotland has 5,000.
    Makes one think.

    I don’t think we’ll ever again see the
    Bok rugby we saw under Mallett -
    with results

    Reply to biltongbek @ 9:58 am:
    Obviously due to injuries to Habana, Pietersen, Goosen and Frans Steyn Meyer took the conservative route with his backline.

    No sir. The backline was just as conservative
    with those players. In fact, the Bok backs have
    been “conservative” since the days of Jake White,
    even with Fourie du Preez.

  29. avatar Boertjie says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:39 am

    BTW one of the moments I will remember,
    is Ysterbet grabbing a Scot by his jersey
    with one hand an slinging him back like
    a rag doll.
    :lol:

  30. avatar biltongbek says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:45 am

    Reply to Boertjie @ 11:26 am: Boertjie, ignore previoous coaches. That has nothing to do with Meyer, what I am saying is he went for the experienced players and dind’t venture into Paul Jordaan, Willie le Roux, Louis Ludick, Jantjies, Jan Serfontein etc.

  31. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Reply to Boertjie @ 11:26 am:

    Strange that with that ‘conservatism’ under JW Marius Joubert became the first player to score a hat-trick against the AB’s, Habana became one of the most devastating winger in the game in that period… and now under Meyer he was one of the top-try scorers in the 4N…

  32. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    I was channel hopping yesterday and stumbled on an LV Cup game (Dragons v Saints) and to my surprise I saw Chavanga end up with a hat-trick :what:
    Nice to see him and Mujati have a chat afterwards – both from Zim and played for SA…

  33. avatar Boertjie says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 11:46 am:

    You’re wrong re the hat trick:
    Ray Mordt, third test, 1981 was the first.

    And how many games dit we win in the 4N?
    TWO out of six. Lets not mention the
    points and tries difference.

  34. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    November 19th, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Reply to Boertjie @ 12:33 pm:

    Didn’t have 5 Habana’s in the backline…

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