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England 15 v Springboks 16

The Boks will look to end their campaign of 2012 on a high by beating England at home – but this won’t be plain sailing.

Recent results:
2012: South Africa and England drew 14-14, Port Elizabeth
2012: South Africa won 36-27, Johannesburg
2012: South Africa won 22-17, Durban
2010: South Africa won 21-11, London
2008: South Africa won 42-6, London
2007: South Africa won 15-6, Paris (World Cup Final)
2007: South Africa won 36-0, Paris (World Cup pool match)
2007: South Africa won 55-22, Pretoria
2007: South Africa won 58-10, Bloemfontein
2006: South Africa won 25-14, London

The teams

England: 15 Alex Goode, 14 Chris Ashton, 13 Manu Tuilagi, 12 Brad Barritt, 11 Mike Brown, 10 Toby Flood, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Ben Morgan, 7 Chris Robshaw (captain), 6 Tom Wood, 5 Geoff Parling, 4 Joe Launchbury, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Tom Youngs, 1 Alex Corbisiero.
Replacements: 16 David Paice, 17 David Wilson, 18 Mako Vunipola, 19 Mouritz Botha, 20 James Haskell, 21 Danny Care, 22 Owen Farrell, 23 Jonathan Joseph.

South Africa: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (captain), 11 François Hougaard, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 François Louw, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Gurthrö Steenkamp.
Replacements: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Heinke van der Merwe, 18 Pat Cilliers, 19 Flip van der Merwe, 20 Marcell Coetzee, 21 Elton Jantjies, 22 Jaco Taute, 23 Lwazi Mvovo.

Date: Saturday, 24 November 2012
Kick-off: 14.30 (14.30 GMT; 16.30 SA time)
Venue: Twickenham
Expected weather: There is a 40 percent chance of rain with a high of 13°C, dropping to 4°C. It’s been a bleak week.
Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Assistant referees: Glen Jackson (New Zealand), Peter Fitzgibbon (Ireland)
TMO: Jim Yuille (Scotland)

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  1. Duiwel


    November 24, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Conceding almost 1 point a minute

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    November 24, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Owens is clueless in the scrums.

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    November 24, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Ja Owens has no clue. They scrum in, even before the scrum is set, they’ve allready turned in on Jannie. Penalisable as far as I know, but he penalises us everytime. He is clueless

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    November 24, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Hoessit, Tjops.

    Net gou-gou : BOKKE!! :support:

    Duiwel, Shieldsie, ontspan die boude bietjie en vat maar nog ‘n biertjie. Ek kan nou nie baie kommentaar lewer oor die kwailteit van Bok-spel nie, ek kyk te min, maar nou is ek net bly om hier in die vreemde bietjie rugby te kan kyk! mrgreen:

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    November 24, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    Geez, this NZ/Aus commentator on Fox friggen hates Farrel’s guts. And thinks the world of Kirchner. :roll:

    Wild run after the intercept by Tuilagi. Looks like the ball is bouncing right for the Bokke though!

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    November 24, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Agree on the ref with the scrums. :noshake: With the overhead cam you can see the Eng no. 3 scrumming in every damn time!

  7. DavidS


    November 24, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    Ek het glad nie gekyk nie… het gemiddag slapie…

    Wat dink julle?

    Ek aanvaar ons gaan weer “wen is ‘n wen” vs doom and gloom gesprek voer.

    Duiwel en shields en Bekke teen almal…

  8. DavidS


    November 24, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    Duiwel kom ek doen jou deel vir jou sommer

    100kg sack
    of shit
    playing like
    sal nie
    die kak
    kan ondersteeun
    nie oudste en Dawie
    en piepiemier
    fok almal en veral
    Butch James

  9. DavidS


    November 24, 2012 at 6:37 pm


    HakHak Heyneke is kak
    Heyneke kan nie coach nie
    Hy is blind vir talent en hy is sommer kak

  10. DavidS


    November 24, 2012 at 6:40 pm


    1. Rugby is supposed to be entertaining and the Boks aren’t entertaining.

    2. Heyneke thinks it is still 2007’s team and he should select Goosen. Ebersohn, Taute and Ebersohn and Ebersohn and Jordaan and especially Ebersohn…

    3. Heyneke must embrace Reds rugby

    4. I’m supporting the Wallabies because they play with all fifteen players…

  11. DavidS


    November 24, 2012 at 6:40 pm


    Nou het julle niks verder om by te voeg nie.

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    November 24, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Nee Dawie, jy kort n

    Heyneke is a kak coach
    hire a decent coach
    like mallet

    daarshy, nou is bekker, shields en duiwel se comments gemaak

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    Welshbok die Brandwag

    November 24, 2012 at 7:06 pm


    ek is oor 3 weke in jou wereld tot mid Januarie, Iowa city?

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    Welshbok die Brandwag

    November 24, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Reply to Welshbok die Brandwag @ 7:06 pm:

    gaan na familie toe, miskien ken jy hom, Pieter Poolman van Windhoek?

  15. Duiwel


    November 24, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Oom D,
    I am happy you are happy with that performance.
    It’s a win,right?
    We spill the pill,looked panicked throughout,
    Pienaar leads the way with shit aimless kicking,
    Our handling at speed almost non existant
    We have one try which was almost funny in its
    Haphazard way .
    We looked like plodders.
    But it’s a win right?
    Heineke Meyer is a club coach.
    A very good club coach.
    And a international assistant coach.
    We need a real coach

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    November 24, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Reply to Welshbok die Brandwag @ 7:06 pm:
    Reply to Welshbok die Brandwag @ 7:07 pm:
    Ken nie die man nie, Iowa City is so amper 100 myl van waar ek is. Nie so baie Afrikaanssprekendes/Saffers in die nabyheid nie – goed om te weet daar is nog!

    Ons moet dan plan maak om ‘n bier te drink iewers, sover is ek nog hier rond oor die vakansietyd. Stuur ‘n possie na lvanwyk[at]uni[dot]edu.

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    November 24, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 6:37 pm:
    Reply to DavidS @ 6:37 pm:
    Reply to DavidS @ 6:40 pm:
    Reply to Aldo @ 6:51 pm:
    Reply to Duiwel @ 8:03 pm:

    Good to see some good natured ribbing between the :Oos Rander: , the boer-turned-plumber (or was it the other way round?..) :bulls supporter: and :satansmoking: in Frogland!

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    November 24, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Lol namboer, boer turned plumber, turned financial advisor. But yes, I love the banter

  19. DavidS


    November 24, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Reply to Duiwel @ 8:03 pm:

    Ek het nie eers gekyk nie ou suur duiwel drol…

    Ek terg jou net…

    Ek het gisteraand tot baie laat EFC 17 gekyk… ongelukkig het altwee die ouens van ons gym verloor, maar dit was ‘n uitstekende fight night gewees.

    HM se pedigree ys hy is ‘n uitstekende coach.

  20. DavidS


    November 24, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Reply to namboer @ 8:17 pm: Lol Namboer hoe gaan dit in jou plekkie.

    JHb reen soos fokken tropiese storm al twee dae lank…

  21. DavidS


    November 24, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Reply to Aldo @ 6:51 pm: LIKE

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    November 24, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Twee dinge:

    1. Die Bokke het gewen, maar hulle
    was KAK.
    2. Die ref is ‘n KONT.

    Daar is eerste aan Etzebeth gevat.
    Hy is twee keer in die lynstane in
    die lug gepla.
    Jannie het in die eerste skrum aan
    die arm gebind, daarna het die Poms
    se loskop op Strauss ingeskrum – soos
    Naas rustyd gewys het.

  23. DavidS


    November 24, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    There an be no doubt ever that Owens is virulently anti South African.
    I swear he must have put a move on a Boer at some time in his life and got rebuffed and now he has something against us!

  24. Duiwel


    November 24, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    History will show we won.
    That’s all that matters.

    we should put fences around
    our rugby
    put 15 fokken bloubulle,
    let them loose after kickoff
    and the final score should be a
    Little less.
    And the balk,ballas,bek en blare
    dust and noise
    The collective rugby iQ about
    as much a guess as the coach’s

    The amount of rugby seen
    will be the same.

    All England

    From the last game against them
    to now
    HM’s way has been encompassed
    By one point.
    But hey
    It’s the winning one,right?
    Give him time.
    He is learning as much as the
    new caps.
    Get an assistant job for your learning curve,boet,
    Let mallet at them
    He will have them accountable
    at least.

  25. Duiwel


    November 24, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    And ja Oom D,
    for aimlessly kicking the ball
    in the dying minutes of the game
    into the oppos leading try scorer’s hands
    and lose our fkn final
    old butchie still takes the fkn biscuit.

  26. Duiwel


    November 24, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    Match Stats
    Player Stats
    PossessionEngland 44%44% 56% South Africa 56%Rucks/maulsEngland 9763% 37% South Africa 56Line breaksEngland 2100% 0% South Africa 0OffloadsEngland 150% 50% South Africa 1Scrum winsEngland 117% 83% South Africa 5Scrums won against headEngland 050% 50% South Africa 0Lineout winsEngland 1244% 56% South Africa 15Lineouts
    won against throwEngland 00% 100% South Africa 4RunsEngland 9366% 34% South Africa 48Run metresEngland 446m69% 31% South Africa 204mKicksEngland 2747% 53% South Africa 30Kick metresEngland 637m44% 56% South Africa 805mTackles madeEngland 5636% 64% South Africa 98Tackles missedEngland 531% 69% South Africa 11TurnoversEngland 1862% 38% South Africa 11Penalties concededEngland 938% 62% South Africa 15

  27. DavidS


    November 24, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Jis ek is bly jy braak al jou gal hier sodat jou gesin dit gespaar word….


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    Vetgesmeerde Blits

    November 25, 2012 at 3:19 am

    Die Bokke het baie beter gespeel vandag. Ons sou
    Altyd teen die huidige Iere en Skotte gewen het
    Maar die Engelse is ‘n ander storie en is altyd
    Moeilik. Dit is nou 11 wenne in ‘n ry teen die Rooibaadjies
    Vir ons wat dit blerrie lekker maak.

    Ek is veral bly vir Vermeulen vir sy speler van die
    Wedsryd toekenning. Hy kon nie ophou glimlag nie en
    Dit is lekker as ‘n sogenaamde underdog erkenning kry.
    Hy was ‘n monster in die losskrums en op verdediging,
    En dra die bal al hoe beter.

    Lambie het ook baie goed gespeel en Jp tekkel deesdae
    Soos De Wet Barry.

    Dis nou 3uur in die oggend en ek ry amper dam toe
    Om te kyk of ek ‘n paar karp en bass kan vang.
    Vanaand kerm my vrou weer as ek ‘n ou karpie in haar
    Kombuis skoonmaak en braai. ‘N Bietjie knoffel en
    Hy smaak beter as Kingklip.

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    November 25, 2012 at 8:28 am

    Nigel Owens het klaar besluit die engelse moet wen. Hoe de hel het hy nie gesien wat Corbisiero doen nie?

    Vyf engelse vat Etzebeth aan en Etzebeth word gestraf, ek dink die kantman het besluit die fight is nie fair nie.

    En uiteindelik bewys Pienaar hoe stadig sy diens is dat hy die eerste skrumskakle is wat deur die 5 sekonde reel gevang word.

    Kirchner vang die ” up and unders” en ” knock” die maklike een – fantatasties.

    One eerste backline move het 4 , ja VIER passes gehad.

    Maar op die einde van die dag het ons drie wenne uit drie, net een lynstaan verloor en net een drie afgestaan.

    Volgenede jaar kan Meyer nou werk aan n’ ordentlike Skrumskakel, vinnige ruck ball, n’ senterlaar wat wil aanval saam met hulle hele agterlyn and a heelagter wat kan aanval.

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    November 26, 2012 at 5:38 am

    The problem is,
    there is a myth.
    Like all nations,
    we have ours.
    It’s called:
    “The invincible Bok.”
    It has no basis in history,
    yet it persists, strong as ever.
    The “invincible Bok”, will always be:
    When he loses, as is often the case.
    There must be,
    something to blame.
    The players,
    the coach,
    the game-plan.
    Or else, the referee.

    At one time, or other,
    we’ve all fashioned ourselves,
    as possible Boks.
    That’s why when they lose,
    we take it so personally.
    The players,
    after all, are just those best
    among us.
    When they fare poorly,
    they reflect poorly, on us.
    Worse! They fuck with our myth.
    In anger, we say:
    fuck this, fuck them,
    I will support France
    or Wales, from now.
    But France or Wales,
    will never feature in our myth.
    We always come back,
    with our myth intact.

    It’s not so bad.
    Just be glad.
    Our myth is pretty harmless.
    We are deluded!
    Not as much,
    as the poor bastards who, once upon a time,
    believed in the “invincible Prussian”.

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    Methos The French Stormer

    November 26, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Dis ook net op Ruggaworld waar mense gedigte skryf oor rugby…



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