Jean loof ‘passievolle’ Heyneke

November 26, 2012
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Die Springbokke kon nie vir meer gevra het as die afrigtingspan wat vanjaar onder soveel kritiek deurgeloop het nie, meen kaptein, Jean de Villiers.

Stephen Nell, Die Burger

Suid-Afrika het sy toer na Brittanje en Ierland eergister met drie seges uit drie afgesluit deur Engeland op Twickenham met 16-15 te troef.

Volgens De Villiers het die “mensgerigte benadering” van die Bok-breier, Heyneke Meyer, die groot verskil gemaak.

“Heyneke het baie vertroue in my gestel deur my vanjaar die kapteinskap aan te bied en hy het my ontsettend ondersteun,” het De Villiers gesê.

“Die een ding wat niemand van Heyneke kan wegneem nie, is dat hy ontsettend passievol is oor Bok-rugby.

Hy gee om vir elke individu en solank dít die geval is, sal die spelers vir hom bly speel.

“Ons afrigters vat baie houe, maar as spelers kan ons vir niks meer vra as wat die afrigtingspan en ander bestuurslede ons bied nie.”

Meyer het die Bok-span vanjaar in ’n oorgangsfase bestuur, nadat John Smit en Victor Matfield die gordyn op hul roemryke toetsloopbane laat sak het.

Ander senior-Bokke soos Fourie du Preez, Danie Rossouw en Bakkies Botha het boonop hul rugbyheil oorsee gaan soek.

Daarbenewens het beserings Meyer-hulle vanjaar geteister – met onder meer Schalk Burger, Bryan Habana, Bismarck du Plessis, Frans Steyn én Andries Bekker wat nie saam na die Noordelike Halfrond kon reis nie.

Ofskoon Suid-Afrika se sege oor Engeland ’n broekskeur een was, het De Villiers eergisteraand die span se verdediging geloof.

“Ek dink ons tel beslis onder die beste spanne ter wêreld, indien nie dié beste nie, wat verdediging betref,” het hy gesê.

“Ons het net een drie op ons toer afgestaan. Daardie ingesteldheid en toewyding kom van binne jou.

Die manne het die verantwoordelikheid aangegryp en dit maak my as kaptein baie trots.”

Duane Vermeulen, wat as die Speler van die Wedstryd aangewys is, meen die Bokke het op toer baie as ’n span gegroei.

“Ons moes hard werk om die Engelse te keer en ons het vir mekaar gespeel.

“Ons bereidwilligheid om dit vir mekaar te doen, is iets wat ons nog deurentyd motiveer,” het dié Bok-agtsteman gesê.

“Die boodskap dwarsdeur die toer was om vir mekaar te werk en as ’n span te groei.

“Ons het mekaar beter leer ken en dit het duidelik op die veld gewys.”

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14 Comments

  1. avatar damneddutch says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    Koembajaa my lord, koembajaaaaa… Flip Jean, “…en dit het op die veld gewys.”!? Is jy geflippen suip? Dink nie Ruaan Pielhaar weet na 3 toetse wie loskakel was nie…

  2. avatar Duiwel says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    If they could play
    Like they talk
    We would be unbeatable

  3. avatar Duiwel says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    Cant be arsed to type it again

    24 Comments
    bryce_in_oz says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 1:58 am
    “Tenacious Boks stick it to the pansy fan contingent”

    Again…

    Aldo says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 7:17 am
    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 1:58 am:

    hehe, lovely

    Mug Punters Organisation of South Africa says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 8:37 am
    HM does not lie when he says he will win ugly.

    There have been better Bok teams that would have lost that game so full credit to the team. You have to admire the discipline.

    Nigel Owens and Jannie’s spat is now bit of a joke with the ref calling penalties that were clearly Poms boring in. Even the Neutral unbiased Barnes ( ) waying in. Good idea to replace Jannie.

    Not to sure what the Pommie linesman was smoking as he allowed 4 skew throw ins, 2 wrong calls on lineout possession and pinged Eben when the penalty should have been for the Boks for an elbow to the face.

    So the ja broers will be happy with the win.
    We have to wait till next year for new players to be blooded or players given a chance to see what they can do. Oops no no that will be the year after as we still need to win ugly.

    Besides us winning that was one of the shittiest boring games I have seen in a long time. Thank-god the Poms were clueless.
    So no more whinging till next year.

    Americano says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 8:50 am
    Bryce -
    I don’t see how it sticks it to anyone but English fans.
    SA did what they had to do to win while playing in swamp-like conditions.
    Scoreboard is everything so job done if it means England by 1 or Uruguay by 1.
    This team has the scaffolding to be a great team as witnessed by these wins – a team with a lesser constitution would have found a way to give away any of the 3 played on this tour.
    But let’s be real – only France is really capable of swinging with SH teams – Ireland can hold their head just above water. Scotland, England & Wales are shameful.

    England needs to rid their upper-management of dweebs that stick their pinky out when they drink and hire their much needed medicine man…..Jake White.
    Till then they will continue to be as goofy as Toby Flood’s facial hair.

    DavidS says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    Ireland smashed Argentina by seven tries….

    Any lessons folks?

    Yah

    Maybe Ireland is NOT as kak as we make them out to be.

    Same for Wales…

    Wales lost by tiny margins to SA and Aus away from home in 2011 and 2012…

    Boertjie says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
    But the Scots – against whom we so struggled -
    were fooked by no less than Fiji!
    Argies lately playing as if the learned
    nothing from the 4 Nations.
    (OK, Rugby Championship – shittest name
    ever conceived.)

    The Year of the Cheetah says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
    better than 3-0 we cannot really ask at this juncture.

    2 things can happen next year:

    1) all the oldies return and HM will keep JdV etc and fok voort on this way

    2) HM will appoint a new captain and work with the new generation.

    Both these will yield success – but going half half and trying to get the best of both worlds will fail

    I will only support option 2. If option 1 then sorry. My life is too short to invest energy in something so average.

    Boertjie says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 5:45 pm:

    Ek het slegte nuus vir jou:

    Rapport:
    Jean maak sy 31-jarige lyf reg
    vir ’n ‘groot 2013’

    Boertjie says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    Andy Robinson has resigned as Scotland coach after they suffered a humiliating 21-15 home defeat to Tonga.

    DavidS says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
    Option 3

    HM evolves a team combined of old guys and new young talented players…

    The Year of the Cheetah says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
    Reply to DavidS @ 8:30 pm:

    in other words the ‘best of both worlds’ approach?

    Wont work.

    Its about culture. Jean has been forced to blend with young guys as apart from Jannie he did not really have anyone from that era to support him. He had to buy into something new.

    Bet my bottom dollar that once Burger and Frans and Habs etc are back they will want to revert back to their own understanding of Bok culture and once more (as with Peter) try and force this.

    It will not work. Mark my words

    The Year of the Cheetah says:
    November 25th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
    Reply to Boertjie @ 8:20 pm:

    liewe fok ek het gesien. Dalk bedoel hy hy gaan in 2013 (vir wp vodacom span) die “pass” deel maak van sy attacking arsenaal

    Timeo says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 5:02 am
    7 Wins, 3 losses and 2 draws is a better than the average season, compared to the last decade or so. But then, consider that both draws and at least one of the losses were purely due to horrible place-kicking by a player who until recently just couldn’t miss.

    Then really, it was so, so very close to being 10 wins and 2 losses and that would have been the best season since ’98.

    Not bad at all for what essentially was a B-team.

    I’m pretty frustrated with the lack of enterprise and the silly errors game after game in the last 20, but looking at it from a glass-half-full perspective, it can/will get better next year.

    Better than 7, 3 and 2.
    Or better than 10 and 3!

    I think we’re about to enter one of the better eras of Bok rugby. Just watch this space!

    Americano says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 5:11 am
    That extrapolation taking into consideration the awful kicking was a telling one Timeo.
    The give-away to NZ at the cake tin ( I think) was the stinger. NZ was really there for the taking and they looked surprised by SA – not often seen.

    Craven says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:42 am
    Reply to Timeo @ 5:02 am:

    “Not bad at all for what essentially was a B-team”.

    I keep seeing this comment being made by people and would like to understand how this conclusion is reached?

    In my mind this was more than a B team.

    Let’s look at the year:

    Among the forwards the only players not available right through the year that would stake a claim for a position in the team, would be Bismarck and Schalk. And than again, who amongst the loosies would you drop for Schalk? So that is two out of eight. Please don’t mention Brussow, Heyneke will not select Heinrich over Louw, so that definitely is not a missing player.

    Backline? No-one really. Habana and Steyn played during the year so they cannot be counted. Even if they are included in the argument, that leaves two out of seven hardly creating a B team.

    Now I expect the inevitible, but Fourie du Preez, Jacques Fourie, Danie Rossouw, Bakkies Botha argument to start. But no, these guys are NOT AVAILABLE for selection and as thus connot constitute an A team.

    Looking at the team facing England, we have Beast, Bismarck and Schalk not available among the forwards. Bekker maybe included, but his form was on-off this year, so the verdict is still out between him and Juandre.

    Among the backs we missed F Steyn and Bryan Habana. So that makes 5 out 15, hardly a B team now is it?

    Craven says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 8:50 am
    Oh yes, I have forgotten Spies.

    I notice he is also mentioned as a missing part of the elusive A team. Drop Duane for Pierre? I don’t think so.

    Lion4ever says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:18 am
    Craven,

    So would you say we played a B2/3 team? It was definitely a weakened team fielded against England. It will still develop into a great team in the next few years if HM can get the 9-10-12 axis right.

    biltongbek says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 10:47 am
    Reply to Craven @ 8:42 am: Craven going to disagree with you in regards to the backs.

    Only in two tests did Habana, Frans Steyn and JP Pietersen play together. All of them out at important points of the year.

    Last test vs england, no Frans Steyn.
    Rugby Championship, no JP Pietersen
    Autumn tours, no Habana and no Frans Steyn.

    Definitely when considering that our backline never settled and is definitely not our A backline.

    Then consider Morne Steyn in poor form, Goosen only played 1 and a half tests and Lambie three at 10.

    The Year of the Cheetah says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
    Reply to Lion4ever @ 10:18 am:

    too right.

    the 9/10/12 axis is vital but what hinders it from progress right now is our use of forwards for the first 6 phases.

    Its kinda pointless to select great players there if you dont plan to use them.

    I hope Cheetahs play VAN ZYL/GOOSEN/EBERSOHN all season as this combo can do a lot to help Boks out.

    Add De Jong at 13, JPP, Habana and Fransie at 15

    Craven says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
    Reply to biltongbek @ 10:47 am:

    Point taken, but one or two players being missing from the backline does not immediately demote the remaining players to B team status does it? That is the point I am trying to make.

    We are not going to push an A team into the field next year with more than 4 or 5 changes from the team that finished this year, hardly an A or B team difference isn’t it?

    biltongbek says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    Reply to Craven @ 1:30 pm: No, not in its entirety.

    But then you have to concede guys like Johan Louw, Duane Vermeulen used their opportunties to play themselves INTO the team during the year.

    I am still not sure who is better suited to play wirh Etzebeth though, whether it should be the injury ridden Bekker who doesn’t work as hard in the rucks as Kruger, but is more a running ball carrier with some distibution skills or Kruger.

    What does concern me with our forwards is the fact that they don’t look for support runners to offload to.

    Duiwel says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    A Springbok coach can count on
    the average punters blinkers
    as long as we give him enough
    to believe he might be great again.

    Even of the 80 minutes shows clearly
    that the Springboks are devoid of any
    semblance of skill.

    We will harp on about unlucky to AB
    simply because we are used to losing against them.
    It’s normal.
    They are better.
    This is a relatively new normality
    Ten years or so.

    We have learned not to coach it better
    but cover it up with buzzwords and promises
    That strings it’s hopeful supporter along.

    But it doesn’t.
    I can see how lost they look.
    All talk and barge
    No sidestep,
    No passing,
    No hand skills ,
    No speed on attack,
    A desperate need for a real kicking coach,
    No off load in the tackle,
    no confidence in running the ball.
    It’s either knocked forward ,knocked on,isolated
    and turned over
    Or kick either up
    Or away.
    No structure except tackling ,set piece basic catching
    And kicking.
    Like six year olds.

    We are at six nation level
    Not counting France.
    Happy with any win.

    I remember when I was used to Springbokke winning
    17 times.
    Anyone
    Anywhere
    Anytime
    Led by a real coach
    Not flawless at all
    But a winner.
    When teams were in awe
    and the all blacks were dismayed.
    At their cohesion.

    HM has arguably the best pool
    In the world to pick from.
    He thinks winning against the scots
    and the Irish is fortunate
    Winning by the bounce of a ball
    Against an struggling English side a massive feat.
    Losing against the aus a miracle
    And winning against the AB as a myth.

    Unless we have a general with a ear vision
    Of what a Springbok is
    We can’t coach it.
    He can coach the Bokke to play like Bulle
    But the moment they are challenged by a bit of
    Resistance to our mythical “physicality”
    We have sweet all to fall back on.

    But ja
    The buzzwords keep coming
    The money keep flowing
    And the Springbok dies a little bit more
    Everytime we accept the mediocre performances
    so readily talked into ballads

    As for Jdv
    He is a overrated poepol whose rep
    springs from intercepting .
    As far as centre goes
    he is vastly overrated .
    His passing is a international joke.

    Even the French prop’s hands
    are better than that pretentious poepols.

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  4. avatar Duiwel says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    Duiwel says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    A Springbok coach can count on
    the average punters blinkers
    as long as we give him enough
    to believe he might be great again.

    Even of the 80 minutes shows clearly
    that the Springboks are devoid of any
    semblance of skill.

    We will harp on about unlucky to AB
    simply because we are used to losing against them.
    It’s normal.
    They are better.
    This is a relatively new normality
    Ten years or so.

    We have learned not to coach it better
    but cover it up with buzzwords and promises
    That strings it’s hopeful supporter along.

    But it doesn’t.
    I can see how lost they look.
    All talk and barge
    No sidestep,
    No passing,
    No hand skills ,
    No speed on attack,
    A desperate need for a real kicking coach,
    No off load in the tackle,
    no confidence in running the ball.
    It’s either knocked forward ,knocked on,isolated
    and turned over
    Or kick either up
    Or away.
    No structure except tackling ,set piece basic catching
    And kicking.
    Like six year olds.

    We are at six nation level
    Not counting France.
    Happy with any win.

    I remember when I was used to Springbokke winning
    17 times.
    Anyone
    Anywhere
    Anytime
    Led by a real coach
    Not flawless at all
    But a winner.
    When teams were in awe
    and the all blacks were dismayed.
    At their cohesion.

    HM has arguably the best pool
    In the world to pick from.
    He thinks winning against the scots
    and the Irish is fortunate
    Winning by the bounce of a ball
    Against an struggling English side a massive feat.
    Losing against the aus a miracle
    And winning against the AB as a myth.

    Unless we have a general with a ear vision
    Of what a Springbok is
    We can’t coach it.
    He can coach the Bokke to play like Bulle
    But the moment they are challenged by a bit of
    Resistance to our mythical “physicality”
    We have sweet all to fall back on.

    But ja
    The buzzwords keep coming
    The money keep flowing
    And the Springbok dies a little bit more
    Everytime we accept the mediocre performances
    so readily talked into ballads

    As for Jdv
    He is a overrated poepol whose rep
    springs from intercepting .
    As far as centre goes
    he is vastly overrated .
    His passing is a international joke.

    Even the French prop’s hands
    are better than that pretentious poepols.
    As for eben
    He was looking for shit
    He got it.
    his rep is in his head
    Bakkies would have put him in hospital

  5. avatar Duiwel says:
    November 26th, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    I’m just happy I didn’t pay
    To watch that shit they dished up.

    Not a penny.

    Until they play like Springbokke
    they can go scrounge for money
    elsewhere.

    This sucker has wised up

  6. avatar Mug Punters Organisation of South Africa says:
    November 28th, 2012 at 5:26 am

    From my experience and people I know, in the last few years of boring Bok Rugby, less supporters watch the game live and some are not watching replays at all because you know what you are going to get. Kick chase stampkar rugby.

    Before we would not going fishing, surfing or camping on Bok rugby weekends. Now the boois go, rugby or not.
    As seen from the stadiums, punters are looking at the ticket cost and what they are going to get and dont see a good exchange anymore.

    There are even so called Blood supporters on this site who are not watching the game live anymore either.

    Why?

  7. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    November 28th, 2012 at 8:16 am

    Reply to Mug Punters Organisation of South Africa @ 5:26 am:

    Ireland vs RSA- 50 000
    Scotland vs RSA- 58 810
    England vs RSA- 81 151

    “in the last few years of boring Bok Rugby, less supporters watch the game live”

    Bollocks!

  8. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    November 28th, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 8:16 am:

    Oops… the above are the 2012 attendances… the below are the 2010 attendance figures…

    Ireland vs RSA 35 515
    Scotland vs RSA 35 555
    England vs RSA 80 793

    So again… bollocks!

  9. avatar biltongbek says:
    November 28th, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Yeah, it is true our rugby can be deemed boring by some.

    I don’t see it as boring though, merely frustrating at times.

    Of the twelve matches we played this year, each and everyone of those matches were either exciting or very tense. I can’t see how it is boring.

    Remember rugby is about more than running in tries in open space. Yes, I would also like to see us improve our attack, but do not see it as boring,

  10. avatar Golden Earring says:
    November 28th, 2012 at 9:38 am

    PASSIEVOL – werklike betekenis in Rugby : ” Hy weet fokol, het nie n idee nie, maar probeer hard”

  11. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    November 28th, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Reply to biltongbek @ 8:58 am:

    Test match wars are never boring…

  12. avatar biltongbek says:
    November 28th, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 10:46 am: Agree.

  13. avatar Boertjie says:
    November 28th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 10:46 am:
    Reply to biltongbek @ 11:05 am:
    :agree:

  14. avatar Mug Punters Organisation of South Africa says:
    November 29th, 2012 at 4:29 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 8:16 am: Bollocks to you too mate.

    Thanks for the stats and whats happening on the home front?

    There is a big push to make rugby more attractive to get more viewers. Why tinker with a winning formula in a growing market. You do this when the market share is falling.

    As for the Test matches, I know from reading conversations on this blog that some of you dont watch the lives ganes anymore. So dont pretend.

    The other point, which is not Bollocks is the bigger and bigger gaps that are appearing at test matches in South Africa. I never remember seeing empty seats at test matches before in South Africa.

    But hey live in a dream world like those and 5 day cricket and now 20/20

    Many supporters would watch full days of rugby catching the all the tour games. Now people dont anymore.

    Yep Bollocks.

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