Super Rugby players stats round 6

March 27, 2013
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All the season 2013 player stats that matter after round 6…
http://livescores.smh.com.au/rugby/super15/player-stats.html
Most Points
1. Gareth Anscombe (Chiefs) 84
2. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 71
3. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 61
4. Daniel Carter (Crusaders) 55
5. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 54
6. Quade Cooper (Reds) 51
7. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 49
7. James O’Connor (Rebels) 49
7. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 49
10. Brendan McKibbin (Waratahs) 46
10. Demetri Catrakilis (Kings) 46
12. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 43
13. Sias Ebersohn (Force) 32
14. Jesse Mogg (Brumbies) 26
15. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 24
16. Alfie Mafi (Force) 20
16. Frank Halai (Blues) 20
16. Kade Poki (Highlanders) 20
16. Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs) 20
20. Piri Weepu (Blues) 19
Most Tries
1. Alfie Mafi (Force) 4
1. Frank Halai (Blues) 4
1. Jesse Mogg (Brumbies) 4
1. Kade Poki (Highlanders) 4
1. Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs) 4
6. Andries Bekker (Stormers) 3
6. Ben Tapuai (Reds) 3
6. Charles Piutau (Blues) 3
6. George Whitelock (Crusaders) 3
6. Gio Aplon (Stormers) 3
6. Henry Speight (Brumbies) 3
6. Lelia Masaga (Chiefs) 3
6. Sergeal Petersen (Kings) 3
14. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 2
14. Rene Ranger (Blues) 2
14. Robbie Coleman (Brumbies) 2
14. Robert Ebersohn (Cheetahs) 2
14. Ryan Kankowski (Sharks) 2
14. Sarel Pretorius (Cheetahs) 2
14. Willi Heinz (Crusaders) 2
Most Conversions
1. Gareth Anscombe (Chiefs) 17
2. Daniel Carter (Crusaders) 13
3. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 8
3. James O’Connor (Rebels) 8
3. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 8
3. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 8
7. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 6
8. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 5
8. Brendan McKibbin (Waratahs) 5
8. Meyer Bosman (Sharks) 5
8. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 5
8. Quade Cooper (Reds) 5
13. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 4
13. Chris Noakes (Blues) 4
13. Lima Sopoaga (Highlanders) 4
13. Sias Ebersohn (Force) 4
17. Colin Slade (Highlanders) 3
18. Michael Harris (Reds) 2
18. Piri Weepu (Blues) 2
18. Tyler Bleyendaal (Crusaders) 2
Most Penalty Goals
1. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 18
2. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 16
3. Gareth Anscombe (Chiefs) 15
4. Demetri Catrakilis (Kings) 14
5. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 13
6. Brendan McKibbin (Waratahs) 12
6. Quade Cooper (Reds) 12
8. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 11
8. James O’Connor (Rebels) 11
8. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 11
11. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 9
12. Daniel Carter (Crusaders) 8
13. Sias Ebersohn (Force) 6
14. Louis Fouche (Bulls) 5
14. Piri Weepu (Blues) 5
16. Colin Slade (Highlanders) 4
16. Michael Harris (Reds) 4
16. Riaan Smit (Cheetahs) 4
19. Baden Kerr (Blues) 3
20. Nic White (Brumbies) 2
Most Drop Goals
1. Sias Ebersohn (Force) 2
2. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 1
Most Tackles Made
1. Pieter Labuschagne (Cheetahs) 95
2. Sam Cane (Chiefs) 85
3. Ed Quirk (Reds) 80
4. Michael Hooper (Waratahs) 71
4. Robert Ebersohn (Cheetahs) 71
6. Wimpie Van der Walt (Kings) 70
7. Liam Gill (Reds) 68
8. Karl Lowe (Hurricanes) 67
9. Philip van der Walt (Cheetahs) 66
10. Luke Jones (Rebels) 63
11. Francois Uys (Cheetahs) 62
12. Matt Todd (Crusaders) 58
12. Scott Fuglistaller (Rebels) 58
14. Lodewyk De Jager (Cheetahs) 57
15. Luke Braid (Blues) 56
15. Steven Luatua (Blues) 56
17. Cornell du Preez (Kings) 55
17. Schalk Ferreira (Kings) 55
19. David Dennis (Waratahs) 54
20. Pierre Spies (Bulls) 53
Most Runs
1. Digby Ioane (Reds) 58
2. Israel Folau (Waratahs) 49
3. Alfie Mafi (Force) 46
3. Stephen Moore (Brumbies) 46
5. John Hardie (Highlanders) 45
6. George Whitelock (Crusaders) 43
7. Hugh McMeniman (Force) 42
7. Kade Poki (Highlanders) 42
9. Ben Tapuai (Reds) 41
10. Angus Cottrell (Force) 40
10. Ed Quirk (Reds) 40
10. Marcell Coetzee (Sharks) 40
13. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 39
13. Luke Braid (Blues) 39
13. Luke Jones (Rebels) 39
16. Liam Messam (Chiefs) 38
17. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 37
17. Jake Schatz (Reds) 37
17. James O’Connor (Rebels) 37
20. Sam Cane (Chiefs) 36
Most Run Metres
1. Digby Ioane (Reds) 507
2. Israel Folau (Waratahs) 486
3. Kade Poki (Highlanders) 453
4. Charles Piutau (Blues) 394
5. Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs) 393
6. Ben Tapuai (Reds) 365
7. Tom Marshall (Crusaders) 360
8. Alfie Mafi (Force) 346
9. Julian Savea (Hurricanes) 345
10. Jesse Mogg (Brumbies) 344
11. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 339
11. James O’Connor (Rebels) 339
13. Raymond Rhule (Cheetahs) 329
14. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 328
15. Israel Dagg (Crusaders) 311
16. Rene Ranger (Blues) 301
17. Robert Ebersohn (Cheetahs) 296
18. Drew Mitchell (Waratahs) 277
19. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 274
20. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 272
Most Kicks
1. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 46
2. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 45
3. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 39
4. Demetri Catrakilis (Kings) 38
5. Quade Cooper (Reds) 36
6. Jesse Mogg (Brumbies) 31
7. Elton Jantjies (Stormers) 30
7. James O’Connor (Rebels) 30
9. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 29
10. Matt Toomua (Brumbies) 27
11. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 26
11. Jano Vermaak (Bulls) 26
13. Sias Ebersohn (Force) 25
14. Daniel Carter (Crusaders) 22
14. Nic White (Brumbies) 22
16. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 21
17. Aaron Smith (Highlanders) 20
17. Cobus Reinach (Sharks) 20
19. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 19
19. Piri Weepu (Blues) 19
Most Kick Metres
1. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 1894
2. Demetri Catrakilis (Kings) 1676
3. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 1413
4. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 1360
5. Jesse Mogg (Brumbies) 1217
6. Quade Cooper (Reds) 1146
7. James O’Connor (Rebels) 1087
8. Sias Ebersohn (Force) 1078
9. Elton Jantjies (Stormers) 1051
10. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 1015
11. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 1005
12. Matt Toomua (Brumbies) 1004
13. Daniel Carter (Crusaders) 932
14. Nic White (Brumbies) 733
15. Jano Vermaak (Bulls) 718
16. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 681
17. Gareth Anscombe (Chiefs) 678
17. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 678
19. Cobus Reinach (Sharks) 649
20. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 633
Most Pick And Drives
1. Hugh McMeniman (Force) 16
2. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 11
3. Ma’afu Fia (Highlanders) 9
4. Beast Mtawarira (Sharks) 8
4. Ed O’Donoghue (Reds) 8
4. Kyle Cooper (Sharks) 8
4. Marcell Coetzee (Sharks) 8
4. Rob Simmons (Reds) 8
9. Adam Wallace-Harrison (Reds) 7
9. Deon Fourie (Stormers) 7
9. Laurie Weeks (Rebels) 7
9. Luke Jones (Rebels) 7
9. Pekahou Cowan (Force) 7
9. Pierre Spies (Bulls) 7
9. Willie Wepener (Bulls) 7
16. Ed Quirk (Reds) 6
16. Greg Holmes (Reds) 6
16. James Slipper (Reds) 6
16. Saia Faingaa (Reds) 6
16. Tetera Faulkner (Force) 6
Most Try Assists
1. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 5
2. James O’Connor (Rebels) 4
3. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 3
4. Daniel Carter (Crusaders) 2
4. Elton Jantjies (Stormers) 2
4. Fotu Auelua (Brumbies) 2
4. Francis Saili (Blues) 2
4. Gareth Anscombe (Chiefs) 2
4. George Moala (Blues) 2
4. Jesse Mogg (Brumbies) 2
4. Keegan Daniel (Sharks) 2
4. Lima Sopoaga (Highlanders) 2
4. Nick Phipps (Rebels) 2
4. Quade Cooper (Reds) 2
4. Winston Stanley (Force) 2
4. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 2
17. Colin Slade (Highlanders) 1
17. Francois Uys (Cheetahs) 1
17. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 1
17. Victor Vito (Hurricanes) 1
Most Linebreaks
1. Kade Poki (Highlanders) 8
2. Alfie Mafi (Force) 5
2. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 5
2. Hosea Gear (Highlanders) 5
2. Raymond Rhule (Cheetahs) 5
6. Andries Bekker (Stormers) 4
6. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 4
6. Charles Piutau (Blues) 4
6. Digby Ioane (Reds) 4
6. Drew Mitchell (Waratahs) 4
6. Henry Speight (Brumbies) 4
6. Julian Savea (Hurricanes) 4
6. Lelia Masaga (Chiefs) 4
6. Rene Ranger (Blues) 4
6. Tom Marshall (Crusaders) 4
16. Elliot Dixon (Highlanders) 3
16. Ged Robinson (Rebels) 3
16. Matt Todd (Crusaders) 3
16. Paddy Ryan (Waratahs) 3
16. Robert Fruean (Crusaders) 3
Most Linebreak Assists
1. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 4
1. Elton Jantjies (Stormers) 4
3. Daniel Carter (Crusaders) 3
3. Francis Saili (Blues) 3
3. Ma’a Nonu (Highlanders) 3
3. Winston Stanley (Force) 3
7. Angus Cottrell (Force) 2
7. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 2
7. George Moala (Blues) 2
7. Hennie Daniller (Cheetahs) 2
7. James O’Connor (Rebels) 2
7. Kade Poki (Highlanders) 2
7. Matt Toomua (Brumbies) 2
7. Nick Phipps (Rebels) 2
7. Quade Cooper (Reds) 2
7. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 2
17. Colin Slade (Highlanders) 1
17. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 1
17. Rene Ranger (Blues) 1
17. Sarel Pretorius (Cheetahs) 1
Most Offloads
1. Quade Cooper (Reds) 13
2. Ben Smith (Highlanders) 9
2. Francois Steyn (Sharks) 9
2. Israel Folau (Waratahs) 9
2. Kurtley Beale (Rebels) 9
6. Luke Braid (Blues) 7
6. Sarel Pretorius (Cheetahs) 7
6. Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs) 7
9. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs) 6
9. Alfie Mafi (Force) 6
9. Cornell du Preez (Kings) 6
9. Drew Mitchell (Waratahs) 6
9. George Smith (Brumbies) 6
9. Kyle Godwin (Force) 6
9. Nick Frisby (Reds) 6
9. Peter Kimlin (Brumbies) 6
9. Philip van der Walt (Cheetahs) 6
9. Richard Kingi (Rebels) 6
9. Robert Fruean (Crusaders) 6
20. John Hardie (Highlanders) 5
Most Pilfers
1. Sam Cane (Chiefs) 6
2. George Smith (Brumbies) 4
2. Jacques Botes (Sharks) 4
2. Rene Ranger (Blues) 4
5. Anthony Faingaa (Reds) 3
5. Jean Deysel (Sharks) 3
5. Liam Gill (Reds) 3
5. Nick Phipps (Rebels) 3
5. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Chiefs) 3
10. Bryan Habana (Stormers) 2
10. Coenrad Oosthuizen (Cheetahs) 2
10. Conrad Smith (Hurricanes) 2
10. Deon Stegmann (Bulls) 2
10. Duane Vermeulen (Stormers) 2
10. Heinrich Brussow (Cheetahs) 2
10. Michael Fitzgerald (Chiefs) 2
10. Mitch Inman (Rebels) 2
10. Pieter Labuschagne (Cheetahs) 2
10. Saia Faingaa (Reds) 2
20. Hugh McMeniman (Force) 1
Most Lineouts Won
1. Ben Mowen (Brumbies) 25
2. Juandre Kruger (Bulls) 22
3. David Dennis (Waratahs) 21
3. Franco van der Merwe (Sharks) 21
3. Jeremy Thrush (Hurricanes) 21
6. Andries Bekker (Stormers) 20
6. Scott Higginbotham (Rebels) 20
8. Rob Simmons (Reds) 19
9. De Kock Steenkamp (Stormers) 17
9. Hugh McMeniman (Force) 17
11. Brodie Retallick (Chiefs) 16
12. Flip Van der Merwe (Bulls) 15
12. Mitchell Chapman (Waratahs) 15
14. Hugh Pyle (Rebels) 13
14. Pierre Spies (Bulls) 13
16. Ed O’Donoghue (Reds) 12
16. Lodewyk De Jager (Cheetahs) 12
16. Sam Whitelock (Crusaders) 12
19. Toby Lynn (Force) 11
20. Francois Uys (Cheetahs) 10
Most Penalties Conceded
1. Steven Kitshoff (Stormers) 10
2. Ed Quirk (Reds) 8
2. Greg Holmes (Reds) 8
2. Scott Higginbotham (Rebels) 8
2. Wyatt Crockett (Crusaders) 8
6. Sam Carter (Brumbies) 7
7. Ben Afeaki (Chiefs) 6
7. Deon Stegmann (Bulls) 6
7. Ed O’Donoghue (Reds) 6
7. Frik Kirsten (Bulls) 6
7. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 6
7. Kevin Buys (Kings) 6
7. Laurie Weeks (Rebels) 6
7. Matthew Hodgson (Force) 6
7. Nathan Charles (Force) 6
7. Nick Phipps (Rebels) 6
7. Pauliasi Manu (Chiefs) 6
7. Rene Ranger (Blues) 6
7. Salesi Ma’afu (Force) 6
7. Scott Fuglistaller (Rebels) 6
Most Turnovers
1. Nathan Charles (Force) 21
2. Quade Cooper (Reds) 16
2. Stephen Moore (Brumbies) 16
4. Digby Ioane (Reds) 14
5. Deon Fourie (Stormers) 13
6. Adriaan Strauss (Cheetahs) 12
7. Craig Burden (Sharks) 11
8. Asaeli Tikoirotuma (Chiefs) 10
8. Ged Robinson (Rebels) 10
8. Hikawera Elliot (Chiefs) 10
8. Luke Jones (Rebels) 10
8. Raymond Rhule (Cheetahs) 10
13. Alfie Mafi (Force) 9
13. Bandise Maku (Kings) 9
13. Bernard Foley (Waratahs) 9
13. Israel Folau (Waratahs) 9
13. James Hanson (Reds) 9
13. Lima Sopoaga (Highlanders) 9
13. Pieter Labuschagne (Cheetahs) 9
13. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 9
Most Missed Tackles
1. Michael Hooper (Waratahs) 17
2. Pierre Spies (Bulls) 13
2. Robert Ebersohn (Cheetahs) 13
4. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 12
4. Kurtley Beale (Rebels) 12
4. Philip van der Walt (Cheetahs) 12
4. Zane Kirchner (Bulls) 12
8. Raymond Rhule (Cheetahs) 11
9. Jacques Engelbrecht (Kings) 10
9. Jeremy Thrush (Hurricanes) 10
9. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 10
9. Johann Sadie (Cheetahs) 10
9. Liam Messam (Chiefs) 10
9. Pieter Labuschagne (Cheetahs) 10
9. Richard Kingi (Rebels) 10
9. Rory Sidey (Rebels) 10
17. Ali Williams (Blues) 9
17. Julian Savea (Hurricanes) 9
17. Laurie Weeks (Rebels) 9
17. Sergeal Petersen (Kings) 9

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31 Comments

  1. avatar Pokkel says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 7:59 am

    Interesting stats. The one I’m most surprised at is the most offloads with Frans Steyn in 2nd position. My impression was that he was holding onto the ball too much.

    :Dawie:

  2. avatar Pokkel says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 8:02 am

    Where are these stats from Bryce?

  3. avatar Morné says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    Either I am not understanding ‘Pilfers’ or these okes are drunk. Brussow made 3 steals in one match alone I watched.

  4. avatar Craven says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Pierre second most missed tackles? Sounds about right. :mrgreen:

  5. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Reply to Pokkel @ 8:02 am:

    http://livescores.smh.com.au/rugby/super15/player-stats.html

  6. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    Reply to Morné @ 9:21 am:

    Pilfer- when the ‘tackler’ steals the ball off opposition… I presume… otherwise George,Brussouw,Todd would be in the 10 plus’ already…

  7. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    http://www.smh.com.au/match-centre/rugby-union/match-4800014.html

    All the more comprehensive individual game stats…

  8. avatar Morné says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 9:40 am:

    Ah so I did not understand it. I think it would be important to include general steals too?

  9. avatar out wide says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Interesting but I suppose not surprising to see SA Conference players dominating the number of kicks and kicking metre stats but almost absent from the number of runs and running metre stats. What does this say about the state of the game in SA?

  10. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Reply to Morné @ 9:53 am:

    I’m only guessing… it’s the only way I can quantify the above figures…

    IMO a steal is a steal whether you’re the tackler, ripping the ball in general play or including enforcing penalties through holding on…

    But this simply couldn’t be on the above figures… in fact I’m pretty sure Brussouw was on 2 the last stats list I posted?

  11. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Reply to out wide @ 10:35 am:

    That not much has changed except their breakdown play has improved, pick-n-drives on the rise and they’re passing/running into gaps much better?

  12. avatar out wide says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 10:58 am: True and nice to see 2 Stormers in the top ten try scorer list for a change.

  13. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    Reply to out wide @ 11:02 am:

    The flip-side is that… contrary to current feeling the RSA teams are playing better rugby (and Aussies far worse) this season… take one look at the table… only one Saffa team qualifying so far to two Aussies and three Kiwi’s…

    Early days…

  14. avatar Boertjie says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Reply to out wide @ 10:35 am:

    As well as tackles. My thoughts exactly.

  15. avatar Vetgesmeerde Blits says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Andries Ioane

    MOST TRIES
    6. Andries Bekker (Stormers) 3

    MOST LINE BREAKS
    6. Andries Bekker (Stormers) 4

  16. avatar out wide says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    Reply to Vetgesmeerde Blits @ 11:56 am: LOL – aka Digby Bekker :-)

  17. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    most points? most tries? Most kicks? Very few of these stats tell us anything.

    Successfull kicks out of hand (in other words fields gained)
    Regained possession from kicks
    Metres gained from line-out maul
    Metres gained over advantage line after scrum
    Tackle advantage ratio (for example last year Stormers tackled attacking players backwards almost every time – this year they dont)
    Points scored directly from set pieces in 22

    – now these are some team stats I would love to see.

  18. avatar Boertjie says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 12:54 pm:

    Very good point.
    :beer:

  19. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Morne I really enjoyed the podcast – and you sounded more relaxed this time. Wish they can get you on properly so its not a call?

  20. avatar Duiwel says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    Outwide-exactly so.
    We kick penalties,miss tackles ,and kick ball away.
    We don’t feature in meters made at all.
    Morne Steyn proving that even out of form
    class is permanent .

  21. avatar Duiwel says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Most kicks -top 3 sa teams.

  22. avatar Timeo says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Games played against foreign opponents (win and lose):

    SA: 9 and 6
    NZ: 4 and 5
    AU: 4 and 6

    Early days, but so far SA is the strongest conference by far.
    It seems the state of rugby in SA is quite healthy, kicking and all.

  23. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    March 27th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Reply to Timeo @ 7:18 pm:

    if you consider that 4 of those wins were:

    kings v force, bulls v force, cheetah v force, sharks v rebel

    and knowing how kak the force and rebels are with very small player bases, then we are on par. Ask rather which o four best teams have beaten the best teams in other conferences, and there we only have Stormers over Brumbies to smile about so far.

  24. avatar Timeo says:
    March 28th, 2013 at 1:14 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 7:57 pm:

    and Stormers over Chiefs (our best from last year over NZ’s best)

    or

    Bulls over Blues (a pre-season favorite).

    or

    Kings over Force (our 5th team over Aus’s)

    or

    Cheetahs (our 4th) team beating the Aus 4th and 5th and the NZ 4th team) away from home.

    So far, I have lots to smile about.

  25. avatar Timeo says:
    March 28th, 2013 at 1:41 am

    Last year SA was 21 and 19, NZ, 26 and 15 and Aus 13 and 26, but I think we can pretty much forget about an SA team winning S15.

    It has nothing to do with the state of SA rugby, rather everything with the structure of the play-off system. Any SA team in the play-offs is twice as likely to have to cross the ocean for a game than the other guys. ie. For every one ocean crossing them, our guys have to make two.

  26. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    March 28th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Reply to Timeo @ 1:41 am:

    I once read an article interviewing Arsene Wenger and Claudio Mourinho (then with chelsey) about training methods during the crunch parts of the season.

    Both men said that teams hardly do any training. They pretty much just stay fit with light cardio exercises because a) the gameplan by now has been well drilled in and b) because they play enough to stay focused.

    If the rugby guys can just stop bloody doing koppestamp and hard exercises and the week between games can be used to relax and acclimatize without the added pressure of training twice a day, then the cross channel touring should not be a problem.

  27. avatar Timeo says:
    March 28th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 1:03 pm:

    If only it was that easy. I think the regular travel across time-zones is very debilitating. At least that is my experience, and I only travel inside 2 or 3 time-zones. Typically, up to 2 weeks after the trip, I still find myself lethargic and tired in the afternoon and wide awake in the evening. Imagine having to play a rugby match between those hours.

  28. avatar Timeo says:
    March 28th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    If you want statistical evidence, just look at the results of super rugby.

    S10, South Africa won, 1 out of 3.
    S12, 0 out of 10 and S14, 3 out of 5.

    The main difference with S14 was, that the relative travel load between SA and the other teams shifted in SA’s favour (more so for NZ than Aus), resulting in more home-field advantage for SA, more travel for them and more titles for us.

    In S12 we had 10 out of 40 semi-finalist, 2/20 finalists and 0/10 champions.
    In S14 the respective ratios were 7/20, 5/10 and 3/5.
    As percentages, the numbers go 25% to 10% to 0% for S12 and 35% to 50% to 60% for S14.

    See the trend?

    For S15 we are now at 37% to 25% to 0% again.

    To me, statistics is only useful when they tell a story or show a pattern.

  29. avatar Timeo says:
    March 28th, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    The numbers for NZ are even more interesting:

    For S12 they had 18 (45%) semi-finalists, 12 (60%) finalists and 8 (80%) champions. For S14, the percentages were 50%, 40% and 40%.

    An up-trend for S12 went to a down-trend for S14. The inverse of SA’s.

    But NZ had 5 teams in both formats and SA went from 4 to 5. The relative strengths of our teams should have been lower. Yet we won more.

    Explanation?

    With the new teams, based in Perth and Bloemfontein, there was a shift in the relative travel loads that favoured South Africa over New Zealand.

    For S15, the shift has been reversed.

  30. avatar The Year of the Cheetah says:
    March 28th, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    Reply to Timeo @ 2:17 pm:

    Its does suggest travel as a big factor but I doubt its THE main factor. The years when we did win we also happen to play our semi games at home, which is a must by the look of things.

    Home semi, home final is a non-negotiable if you want a chance of winning it?

  31. avatar Timeo says:
    March 29th, 2013 at 5:23 am

    Reply to The Year of the Cheetah @ 5:46 pm:

    One can do a nice little experiment with the home-semis.

    If all things were equal the chances for a semi in the different countries during S12 was 5/12 for NZ, 4/12 for SA and 3/12 for Aus. Or 42%, 33% and 25% respectively.

    The reality was quite different. Out of 20 semi-final matches, there were 10 (50%) in NZ, 8 (40%) in Aus and 2 (10%) in SA.

    The reasons why both Aus and NZ gained at the expense of SA may be any combination of:
    A – More talent
    B – Talent more concentrated
    C – Travel
    D – Self inflicted by SA (politics, transformation in-fighting ect.)

    For NZ, the possible factors are A and C, for Aus B and C and for SA, C and D.

    For S14, the all else equal statistics would have been 36% (5/14) for SA and NZ and about 28% for Aus. The reality was: 5/10 (50%) for SA, 4/10 (40) for NZ and 1/10 (10%) for Aus.

    Both NZ and Aus lost ground against SA, but Aus much more so. NZ is still above average, but less so than in S12.

    Aus’s lost, points very strongly to B (talent spread too thin). Then the even thinner talent will now in S15 be in their favor.

    For NZ, the only thing that changed was C (travel). They still have the most talent and it is still pretty evenly spread over the 5 teams.

    For SA, option B (talent spread) possibly got worse when we went to 5 teams, although the split of the Cats made the Lions and Cheetahs both weak and did not effect the other three much. So perhaps we can say options A and B stayed constant for SA. The improvement must have been from options C and/or D. Was rugby governed in SA so much better between ’06 and ’10, than how it was from ’96 to ’05? Perhaps, but it has not changed much since.

    So the only positive from this horrible S15 play-off format is that it may provide the answer to our question, because the road to the final is going to involve many more ocean crossings for SA teams than for Aus and NZ teams.

    My prediction is for the S12 numbers to return.
    *And all that travel by our best players in the final weeks is going to screw the Boks in 4N also.

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