WC to act against hooliganism

April 5, 2013
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The Western Cape government has stepped into the escalating row over spectator hooliganism at stadiums.

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This follows a series of unsavoury incidents at stadiums in the last few weeks.

Problems started with a stand-up brawl between rival fans in the stands of the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium in Port Elizabeth last month, when the Southern Kings hosted the Sharks.

Then followed what must be an all-time low in crowd behaviour when British tourist Brett Williams was killed by a group of men – four were taken into custody by police on Tuesday, while a fifth handed himself over to police on Wednesday.

This past weekend Newlands was added as the latest black mark on the sport, when a woman was hospitalised after a fight broke out in the stands between the notorious ‘Cape Crusaders’ (Cape Town-based supporters of the New Zealand franchise) and Stormers fans.

Western Cape sports MEC Ivan Meyer has now proposed strict new measures to deal with unruly sporting fans.

The Cape Argus reported that Meyer proposed more security at venues and a year-long ban for unruly fans.

He also wanted CCTV cameras to monitor the crowd, identify bad behaviour and stop potential confrontations before they escalated.

This comes after heavy criticism of some fans’ behaviour at last Saturday’s Super Rugby between the Stormers and Crusaders.

South African Rugby Union President Oregan Hoskins said the disdain for the Stormers among New Zealand supporters had reached a level of “extreme abuse and disrespect”.

“I am unable to explain why a number of rugby followers in the Cape not only support New Zealand teams, but also chose to boo players such as Gio Aplon, Juan de Jongh and Siya Kolisi and their teammates as they alighted from the bus, as I witnessed on Saturday,” he said.

According to the report, Meyer said the offenders could not be punished in isolation and one had to look at the overall culture that informed such behaviour.

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31 Comments

  1. avatar DavidS says:
    April 6th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    Elephant in the room…

    Demographics in the crowd.

  2. avatar Boertjie says:
    April 6th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    So Newlands won’t be getting an AB test
    in the foreseeable future (Jurie Roux).
    Suits me – on TV they all look the same.
    And we have a better chance of beating
    them at altitude.

  3. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    April 8th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    WTF is going on in our rugby? It is getting more like soccer every day!
    Fans fight in EP, Man gets murdered in Durbs, Fans fight in Newlands and now it is moving to the pitch:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/22053581

    :censored: :bangheadt:

  4. avatar Ollie says:
    April 8th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Reply to DavidS @ 12:48 pm:

    Durban was white on white, undoubtedly the worst of the 3 recent incidents in SA

  5. avatar Ollie says:
    April 8th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Reply to Ollie @ 10:49 am:

    I go more for alcohol as being the main instigator

  6. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 8th, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 10:50 am:

    Yep… they were clearly drinking their own BYO in the footage… and as for the bloke that KO’d a chick from behind… as clear as day… that should be a ban for life!

    How those ‘stands’ are even legal these days… (looked like seats that everyone stands on)…

  7. avatar Ollie says:
    April 8th, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 4:50 pm:

    I haven’t seen any footage yet of it, I presume a youtube search will bring something up though

  8. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 4:41 am

    Reply to Ollie @ 4:58 pm:

    http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/rugby-thug-smashes-woman-s-face-1.1496660#.UWN_oqJkO_g

  9. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 4:42 am

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 4:41 am:

    Other than the criminality of the punch… the seats (punters stand on) most definitely contributed…

    A decent compo amount would wake the WPRU up to the stands, layout, security and irresponsible service of alcohol!

  10. avatar DavidS says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Reply to Ollie @ 10:49 am:

    Really? So precisely where was the identity race and names of those attackers released?

  11. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Reply to DavidS @ 9:20 am:

    look at the pictures of the people accused and look at the picture of the victim! Not that hard!! :bangheadt:

  12. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 9:32 am:

    http://ewn.co.za/2013/04/08/Rugby-fan-violence-claims-a-life

    &

    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Rugby-attack-suspects-all-free-on-bail-20130408

  13. avatar DavidS says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    That was on 9 April… yesterday… Ollie’s post was on 8 April when that was not yet released by anybody and the media had not been permitted to report on their identities yet.

    So although they are white, Ollie just made that assumption a day before their identities were released.

  14. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Reply to DavidS @ 10:04 am:

    read the links and you will see both links are dated 8th April!

    http://ewn.co.za/2013/04/08/Rugby-fan-violence-claims-a-life

    &

    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Rugby-attack-suspects-all-free-on-bail-20130408

  15. avatar Ollie says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Reply to DavidS @ 10:04 am:

    When you hear the names of the victim and killers, and a picture of the victim it is quite easy to make an educated guess.

    The fact of the matter is they are white, I was perfectly correct in my statement as you weren’t in yours. Nice spin and side step though.

  16. avatar DavidS says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    http://ewn.co.za/2013/04/08/Rugby-fan-violence-claims-a-life

    JT in this first report:

    The men are identified as “The five men” and that is it.

    This report
    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Rugby-attack-suspects-all-free-on-bail-20130408
    was published 19:04 on 8 April. Ollie’s post was at 10:49.

    As I said before and reiterate again. Until that time police and the media were prohibited from publishing their identity because they had not appeared in court yet so I stand by what I said.

    Reply to Ollie @ 10:34 am:

    No sidestep Ollie. Their names were not published. All that was known was that they were men.

    So you were just stirring.

  17. avatar Ollie says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 10:12 am:

    JT, reading that second story is quite horrifying, 1 of the guys throttled Williams until he was unconscious, the paramedics revived him and then the thugs beat him to death after that.

    Jail for life if they’re guilty.

  18. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 12:12 pm:

    None will get life… in fact I doubt any other than maybe one of them will get lengthily sentences even if deemed manslaughter…

  19. avatar Ollie says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 1:48 pm:

    Probably, unfortunately.

  20. avatar Boertjie says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    And yesterday Cape Argus were in orgasm mode
    after an ANC minister was attacked and robbed.
    Nothing about the 96 farm murders this year
    gets into print.

    Country going for the dogs. Only problem is
    they don’t want it either.

    Sorry, feeling a bit bitter today.

    :Boertjie normaal:

  21. avatar DavidS says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    More like ten years or so…

  22. avatar DavidS says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    They even chased the security guards off so they could beat him up.

  23. avatar Ollie says:
    April 9th, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Reply to DavidS @ 4:40 pm:

    Pathetic price for a human life that was deliberately taken

  24. avatar DavidS says:
    April 10th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    It is f***king madness…

    So disappointed…

  25. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    April 11th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    this is starting to get out of hand: :censored:
    http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/details/fans-fight-in-stellenbosch

  26. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 11th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 5:01 pm:

    I very much doubt they ‘deliberately’ wanted to murder him!

    Not that I’m defending them in the slightest…

    When you hack two people to death with a machete… that’s deliberate… and a RSA guy was recently released after two months for that…

  27. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    April 11th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Not seeing too many criticise Naka this season?

  28. avatar Ollie says:
    April 11th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Reply to JT_BOKBEFOK! @ 12:11 pm:

    Looks like they have pulled the article, the link is to a prediction piece now

  29. avatar Ollie says:
    April 11th, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Reply to bryce_in_oz @ 12:42 pm:

    I’m not too sure of that, in the heat of the moment. Especially sinc they had already choked him until he was unconscious and then later, after paramedics revive the victim, they came back and carried on beating the guy.

  30. avatar Ollie says:
    April 11th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 1:53 pm:

    It might not have been pre-meditated, but I reckon one step down from that

  31. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    April 11th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Reply to Ollie @ 1:51 pm:

    There was a youtube video where a fight in the stand breaks out at the Varsity Cup Final. :shake:

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