Lions 18, Kings 23

August 3, 2013
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The equation is simple.  The Lions just need a win while the Kings need to win by 8 or more.  The loser, is out of Super Rugby.

Previous results:
2013: Lions won 41-31, Johannesburg
2013: Lions won 26-19, Port Elizabeth

Teams:

Lions: 15 Ruan Combrinck, 14 Deon Helberg, 13 Nicolaas Hanekom, 12 Dylan Des Fountain, 11 Anthony Volmink, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Ross Cronje, 8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Derick Minnie, 6 Jaco Kriel, 5 Franco van der Merwe, 4 Hendrik Roodt, 3 Julian Redelinghuys, 2 Martin Bezuidenhout, 1 JC Janse van Rensburg (captain).
Replacements: 16 Robbie Coetzee, 17 Ruan Dreyer, 18 Willie Britz, 19 Warwick Tecklenburg, 20 Guy Cronje, 21 Marnitz Boshoff, 22 Chrysander Botha.

Southern Kings: 15 SP Marais, 14 Scott van Breda, 13 Ronnie Cooke, 12 Waylon Murray, 11 Hadleigh Parkes, 10 George Whitehead, 9 Shaun Venter, 8 Jacques Engelbrecht, 7 Wimpie van der Walt, 6 Cornell du Preez, 5 David Bulbring, 4 Darron Nell (captain), 3 Kevin Buys, 2 Bandise Maku, 1 Schalk Ferreira.
Replacements: 16 Charl du Plessis, 17 Hannes Franklin, 18 Steven Sykes, 19 Devin Oosthuizen, 20 Nicolas Vergallo, 21 Wesley Dunlop, 22 Shane Gates.

Date: Saturday, August 3
Venue: Ellis Park, Johannesburg
Kick-off: 17.00 (15.00 GMT)
Expected weather: Bright sunshine, with virtually no chance of precipitation. Hi of 18°C and a low of 4°C
Referee: Stuart Berry
Assistant referees: Jason Jaftha, Marius Jonker
TMO: Shaun Veldsman

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26 Comments

  1. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    Now that just shows you that SA Rugby can not even get promotion relagation matches right. Lions no better than Kings and will end at the bottom next year again. Shows how much the mistakes of Jaco last week cost the kings tonight.

  2. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    Feel sorry for the Kings I would have had a team who wants to come in have to outright beat the team who is there. Stupid rule

  3. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    Is their again a promotion relagation game next year?

  4. avatar DavidS says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    I feel a lovely smug feeling of STFU is in order for all the little Stormer fanboys who laid their foul eggs all over last week’s game…

    The 2014 SR may not have started yet… but damn I would love to see you stripey motherf**kers have to play the Kings in next year’s PR game…

  5. avatar Morné says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    Well done Lions!

    Welcome back.

  6. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    @DavidS: David you can say what yiou want but this Lions team was lucky to win this two games on 2 points and they will just go on being shit like they always was are always will be,.

    We don’t need a fifth team and they will always be the team which other teams gets their free points. Look were our so called motherf$%6 were in the past three seasons on the log so don’t come with your JHB shit. Lions will be as kak as always and that is that. They have a dop as a coach and arogant idiot as a president

    Right or worng thios whole thing was bullshit from the start.

    Who will sign with Lions next year nobody they want to be in a team who wins

  7. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Sorry for my kak spelling but you get what i say

  8. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    Gauteng can not support to top teams, Bulls will always be the top side in that area and Lions will or Kings will always be the third wheel on this bike

  9. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    SS panel say Lions in Supershit till 2016 now

  10. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    :cheers:

  11. avatar Morné says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    @Jacques(Bunny):

    Nope, same next year – bottom team plays the Kings in Promo/Relegation match

  12. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    @Morné: Well that will be interesting

  13. avatar Boertjie says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Could then be Bulls v Lions.
    :pot:

  14. avatar Craven says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 11:56 pm

    What are the chances that the Lions will be any better than the Kings next year?

    On what I saw tonight the Lions are no better than the Kings. From what I heard from bitter Lions fans defending their team’s devine right to be in Superugby I suspected a snotting of note from the Lions, yet they could not beat the “lowly” Kings at their temple of rugby at Ellispark. No what will change from last year? Why would this Lions team surpass the class of 2012?

    Please, oh please do not add another team in 2016, we will just have two teams at the bottom of the log then.

  15. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 2:35 am

    I said it two days ago… this was never a ‘sure thing’ game for the Lions…

    Scrap both teams IMO… this situation is beyond a joke!

  16. avatar Mug Punters Organisation of South Africa says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 4:35 am

    Promotion/Relegation is great motivation its just needs to be right. S15 should be the next step up of local rugby. All comps have bottom feeders whether is 4 or 5.

  17. avatar JT_BOKBEFOK! says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 6:16 am

    More people at the Lions vs Kings game than the Supershit final :whistling:
    I enjoyed the final and this game so would like to see all regions have this type of promotion/relegation format. Add some spice :twisted:

  18. avatar Americano says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 6:25 am

    I know this may be unpopular but I gotta say it.
    I read the article on Lions CEO Kevin Klerk & how he was mouthing off and being completely removed from relity in his uber-confidence regarding Lions chances and how they destroyed Kings at their stadium.

    After reading my reaction was ” Wow – this guy is my kind of jerk !!”

    I think the Lions can thank his irrational exuberance ( or vision) or their return to S15. Somebody has to believe – and that guy is Mr. Klerk. Is he the Donald Trump of S15? I think so & I love his moxie.

  19. avatar Aldo says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 7:14 am

    How is Ackermann a dope Bunny? We havent seen him coaching at S15 level yet, so it cant be based on that, that you call the coach a dope. He is a devoted husband and father, is it maybe that? He is a devout christian, maybe that? You call him a dope, yet do not explain. Are we to decide for ourselves why? Because if you ask me it cannot possibly be his coaching ability, as it is yet untested at Super rugby level and he has won the vodacom cup this year, played in the currie cup semi’s last year.

    If you ask me it is just a knee jerk reaction to De Klerk’s words of last week. But read this, and I am no Lions fan, but the Lions have regained what was taken from them, whether by an inch or a mile doesnt matter. Rather wellcome them back and wish them luck for next year. Funny how some people preach supporting all SA teams and then throw up on blogs around the world.

    Thing is, they only need to finish last in the competition to be as good as the Kings were this year. Yes I enjoyed the full stadiums and the way they came back everytime you thought them down and out, but this is the nature of the monster called promotion/relegation. Why now because the Lions came out on top after the promotion relegation games do they suddenly need to win the competion, to justify being included? They won it, they now belong in the comp for another season. Yes I would hope that the Lions get it together and do better next season, but all this vitriol so early makes me sick. Dawie deserved his east rand moment, for all the shit he’s had to go through with his team, he deserves a moment to throw it back in all the nay sayers faces.

  20. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 8:20 am

    @Aldo: I have no issue with that Aldo what was done to the Lions was wrong but this thing stinks, It is like you tell an orphan here is a Bar one but take it away when he had the first bite.

    We have spoken about it at length last year, they should have given the Kings at least two year but then again they should have never taken it away from the Lions but then again they should have never promise the ANC and Kings this in the first place.

    The whole thing stinks and last night stinks.

    Does not matter who the fifth team will be in the Supershit, they will always be holding up the log and as Nick said last night, they will never be able to challenge the other four teams in the RSA group. That is a fact.

    If we look past our ego’s we will realize this fifth team whoever they are is not good for SA Rugby.

    I feel a guy like JC would have been a bok if he played somewhere else, and their are a few of them in JHB. Players will use the Lions/Kings or whoever is the fifth team as a stepping stone to get into the other teams and then Springboks.

    That is how I see it.

  21. avatar biltongbek says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    The fifth team is a feeder team for SA rugby, whether you like it or not. The Bulls just lost 8 players, the Stormers a few etc. even if we had six teams and two were at the bottom, why would that be. Bad thing, that would mean you had two squads of players getting the opportunity to prove themselves and gain experience. So when they are needed, the Bulls, Stormers, Sharks and Cheetahs have a feeding ground of players with Super XV experince.

    You will always have teams at the bottom, but we all just want to support “winning” teams.

    The Kings may have ended up last on the log, yet they beat the Force, Rebels and Highlanders.

  22. avatar DavidS says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    @Jacques(Bunny):

    Who cares… it was about stuffing your Saturday evening up and that they did…

  23. avatar Timeo says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    @biltongbek:

    The problem is that you will have to maintain the six teams with a similar pot of money as you would have had for five teams. Average player salaries, even at the top teams will be lower, which means more of the best players will leave for NH clubs. Which means that our best teams will also be weakened. Which means smaller audiences at all matches, which means an even smaller pot of money to maintain six teams.

    Envision: Downward spiral.

    All in all, the Kings losing out is a loss for SA rugby. Their attendance figures were much higher than those that were last year, or will be next, at Ellis Park.

  24. avatar biltongbek says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    @Timeo: I read an article a few weeks ago that said South African rugby players are only earning about 35% of revenue earned whereas the standard in pro sport is 50%

    Seems to me there is room for improvement.

  25. avatar Timeo says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    @biltongbek:

    There sure is.
    In the American leagues, it seemed the owners got real alarmed when it went over 60%. They’re trying to work it back down. Even more radical. Monies generate by each level should go towards cost of that level only. Test rugby pays for Bok salaries, SR for SR players, CC, Varsity Cup and so on. IE. No big checks from SARU to the small unions that generate no revenues.

    But it does not change the fundamental financial equation. If you have 6 teams but equally share the money for 5, you’ll have lower average salaries and weaker teams all round. SA can afford 6 teams, but it can’t afford to continue the current system of subsidizing extra teams in Aus and NZ.

  26. avatar Boertjie says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    @Timeo:

    Teams that draw “bumper crowds” of 13,000?

    (See Dwindling Bums on Seats)

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