CC: Sharks 13, Western Province 17

October 12, 2013
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Even if SARU hired Dan Brown, he would not be abled to script a better ending to the 2013 ABSA Currie Cup league stage with the table topping match between Western Province and the Sharks in Durban.

Both sides have called on their Springboks to help secure a possible home final and this should be one of the great games of the season. The Sharks have a Springbok front row and the Western Province have the ability at the back to rip through any team this year. Western Province scrum have been in great form this season and for me this will be the one aspect that I am looking forward to see.

Teams:
Sharks:
15 SP Marais, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Tim Whitehead, 12 Heimar Williams, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Fred Zeilinga, 9 Charl McLeod, 8 Keegan Daniel (captain), 7 Jean Deysel, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 4 Peet Marais, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Kyle Cooper, 17 Wiehahn Herbst, 18 Stephan Lewies, 19 Jacques Botes, 20 Cobus Reinach, 21 Pat Lambie, 22 Louis Ludik.

Western Province: 15 Gio Aplon, 14 Gerhard van den Heever, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Cheslin Kolbe, 10 Demetri Catrakilis, 9 Louis Schreuder, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Siyamthanda Kolisi, 6 Deon Fourie (captain), 5 De Kock Steenkamp, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Pat Cilliers, 2 Scarra Ntubeni, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Replacements: 16 Frans Malherbe, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Michael Rhodes, 19 Schalk Burger, 20 Nic Groom, 21 Kurt Coleman, 22 Jean de Villiers.

Referee: Jonathan Kaplan
Assistant referees: Jason Jaftha, Reuben Rossouw
TMO: Shaun Veldsman

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48 Comments

  1. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    I always like the way WP play when they dont have their Boks. The Currie Cup team differs so much from Super team.

    Hope to see them play that Currie Cup game today again

  2. avatar Trevor Mayhew says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Anyone hve a link to watch the game

  3. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    Duane Vermeulen and Pierre Spies. The biggest men in the world to not ever break a tackle

  4. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    @Trevor Mayhew:

    I am watching here:

    http://www.drakulastream.eu/static/popups/17651404297770.html

  5. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    So was there a huge shower in Durbs?

    Field looks very wet indeed?

  6. avatar Brendon Henry Shields says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    http://www.drakulastream.eu/static/popups/17651404297770.html

  7. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Both teams feeling each other out with a kicking duel that might not please the punters yet is effective.

  8. avatar trevormayhew says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Thanks guys. Got it now..

  9. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Boring ass shit when players just try to drive it up. Ok its wet – its also wet for the defense! Just play the game and stop trying not to lose!

  10. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    WP fattys high fiving after 20 minutes. You can expect to see them fall of tackles soon

  11. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Old forgotten man of SA Rugby Jean Deysel with a nice run down the side. Joel Stransky talks about his ‘brute strength’, an indication that the player is probably dumb and somewhat slow.

  12. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    My man Fourie scores a great try but Ref wants to check first for a knock.

  13. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Add Fourie, Ebersohn and Brussouw. 3 small-ish guys to the Bok setup and we can dominate the world.

  14. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    Thats a try kids.

  15. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Why do refs and TMO’s get tangled in there battles of symantics?

    Just ask the dude in straight language and let him answer you?

  16. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Kaplan pulling rank on his TMO and it makes for uncomfortable viewing. Marius respected his TMO and allowed for an open conversation.

  17. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Field is wet, but both teams making dumb mistakes and suddenly the Currie Cup seems very open.

  18. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    Both Sharks and province seem panicked by the wet ball – this despite both teams growng up with kak weather and lots of rain

  19. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Heaven almighty the Sharks look abysmal. Joel rightfully saying you cannot blame the weather on that kind of thing.

  20. avatar Boertjie says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    WP says a Newlands final is worth R13 million.

  21. avatar Timeo says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    so if the ball had hit the ground before he kicked it, it would have been a knock-on.

    that means every drop-goal should be ruled a knock-on.
    not?

  22. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    We are back for the second half and as far as I understand the rain is back.

  23. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    @Timeo:

    no rule does allow for ‘intent’. If it not the intent to drop the ball (as it cannot be in that field possie) then the ball hitting the ground first is a knock.

  24. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    Wow the Sharkies get a slight bit of attacking ball and make a few clever passes to score. Ref going upstairs

  25. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    Might be life in this game yet

  26. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    I have not seen Aplon to anything this Currie Cup. He just kicks? Maybe lacks a bit of confidence now

  27. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    Sharks pul a Bulls and drive one too many times. Just what is it about these fat guys who want to take the ball up by themselves and run through an entire defense.

    Your fatarse gets isolated and you dont make any ground

  28. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    Burger and Jean on. Dont think it will make a huge difference. WP not playing with the ball at all. Maybe Burger can get a pass or two away

  29. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    Reinach on. I am not a huge fan

  30. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    It sure is very wet now.

  31. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    Province now with a chance to edge ahead by 4.

  32. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    My apologies but due to the rain and both teams shit scared to lose, this is a boring game

  33. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    Spot on kick by that other forgotten kid of SA Rugby Lambie

  34. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    Sharks now with a very good attacking line-out 8 meteres away

  35. avatar Johann Trojer says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    great to see Burger back on a rugby field.

  36. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    Sharks do nothing with line-out, but now have a scrum in middle of the field on WP 22

  37. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    Lambie flufs an easy kick and Sharks now doing everything to lose this game

  38. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    Ball is just being kicked. No wonder the fatties never want to give the ball out as the backs just end up kicking everything

  39. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    Serves Sharks right. So bloody scared of losing and never tried to do anything other than kick and drive. yes its wet but as we have seen its not good enough.

    Deon Fouries try was a beauty and they deserve the win on that alone.

    Fortune favors the brave.

  40. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    Abolutely brilliant steal by Vermeulen yet again after Sharks with an unlikely penalty has no other answer but to pass to a fatty and telling him to run.

  41. avatar Brendon says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    Well done Province, who will host the Lions in Cape Town.

  42. avatar Boertjie says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Anybody for The Stick at no.8 for the Boks?

    :weed:

    What a game by Vermeulen!
    I was a bit amazed at the lots of posession
    WP just kicked aimlessly downfield in the
    last 20 minutes.
    Two tightheads for the Cape scrum.
    :whistling:

  43. avatar Timeo says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    @Brendon:

    I just searched through the law book and there is no such exception.
    Perhaps there is an IRB ruling.

    under definitions:
    Drop kick: The ball is dropped from the hand or hands to the ground and kicked as it
    rises from its first bounce.

    A dropped goal is simply a drop kick that goes through the goal posts, but no where does it say it has to be in the direction of the goal or where on the field or anything about intent.

    In fact one is allowed to kick for touch from a penalty with a drop kick.

    No exception is mentioned under “knock forward” either.

    It seems to me to be a little hole in the laws.

  44. avatar Timeo says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    In the game, the player clearly did not lose control of the ball. He went for a kick. As he kicked it before it hit the ground, it was a punt. Had he kicked it after it hit the ground, it would have been a drop kick.

    That would be according to the law book.

  45. avatar Brendon says:
    October 13th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Wow that’s interesting. So that’s what Jaco Vd Westhuyzen tried!

  46. avatar DavidS says:
    October 13th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    @Brendon:

    Yes he said so

  47. avatar Timeo says:
    October 13th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    No, I think the JvdW case was different. He clearly lost possession and only kicked at it to try to recover from that.

    It fit the definition of a knock-on.

    The problem I see is that a player, going for a kick, does not lose possession, he deliberately drops the ball and since a drop kick in any direction or location would be legal, there is no objective way for a referee to rule whether he intended to drop or to punt.

    As long as the player (1) did not lose possession, (2)intended to kick and (3) kicked it before the 2nd bounce, it should not be a knock-on.

  48. avatar Timeo says:
    October 13th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    Googling the subject came up with this.

    http://www.rugbyrefs.com/archive/index.php/t-12343.html?s=a335cf120e6781db328a7756130f5687

    in some unusual cases, even the referees have a hard time figuring it out.

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