Preview: Wales versus Springboks

November 8, 2013
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Wales-VS-SpringboksWith the roof closed at the Millennium Stadium, Saturday night’s game have all the elements to be a test match to remember.

Between the coaches of Wales and their players they did a lot of talking themselves up for the match against the Springbok. Trying to use the British and Irish Lions tour to Australia as prove of their ability to upset the Springboks, this will be one comparison I would not have made if I was them.

The Australia team has struggled throughout the year as a team and to play any kind of rugby that will make them a force at this stage. The Springboks and New Zeeland were able to put more than four tries against them in the Rugby Championship and Argentinian can close to beat them in Australia.

Wales are the current six nation’s champions and with the roof close the game should bring us a spectacle that we want.

The last time the two teams met was in 2011 and on that day the Springboks only won the game by one point.

In the last five meetings between the two teams the Springboks have won the last three by five points or fewer.

The Key aspects of the game will be the first-phase ball. In the Lineouts the Springboks should be able to dominate and everyone is looking for the scrums as Frans Malherbe comes into the team with Beast and Bismarck. The scrums served the Springboks well this season and they should be able to continue in this way.

In the backs is where most supporters will want to see what Jacque Fourie and JP Pietersen will bring to the team with Lambie moving to fullback.

Both teams have excellent fly half‘s and Meyer will hope that his bench will have a better impact than what they did in their last game against the All Blacks.

This game have the potential to have a big score in the making and we should see some exciting play.

Recent Results
2011: South Africa won 17-16, Wellington (World Cup pool match)
2010: South Africa won 29-25, Cardiff
2010: South Africa won 34-31, Cardiff
2008: South Africa won 20-15, Cardiff
2008: South Africa won 37-21, Pretoria
2008: South Africa won 43-17, Bloemfontein
2007: South Africa won 34-12, Cardiff
2005: South Africa won 33-16, Cardiff
2004: South Africa won 38-36, Cardiff
2004: South Africa won 53-18, Pretoria

Teams

Wales:
15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 George North, 13 Jonathan Davies, 12 Scott Williams, 11 Liam Williams, 12 Rhys Priestland, 9 Mike Phillips, 8 Toby Faletau, 7 Sam Warburton (captain), 6 Dan Lydiate, 5 Alun Wyn Jones, 4 Bradley Davies, 3 Adam Jones, 2 Richard Hibbard, 1 Gethin Jenkins.
Replacements:
16 Ken Owens, 17 Paul James, 18 Scott Andrews, 19 Luke Charteris, 20 Justin Tipuric 21 Lloyd Williams, 22 James Hook, 23 Ashley Beck.

South Africa: 15 Pat Lambie, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers (captain), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Flip van der Merwe, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements:
16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Gurthrö Steenkamp, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 20 Siya Kolisi, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 JJ Engelbrecht, 23 Willie le Roux.

Date: Saturday, 9 November 2013
Kick-off:
17.30 (17.30 GMT; 19.30 SA time)
Venue:
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
Expected weather:
It will be cold and damp in Cardiff on Saturday but that may play no part if the roof is closed.
Referee:
Alain Rolland (Ireland)
Assistant referees:
George Clancy (Ireland), Marius Mitrea (Italy)
TMO: Eric Gauzins (France)

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38 Comments

  1. avatar Bekke says:
    November 8th, 2013 at 11:30 pm

    Bring it on!

  2. avatar Craven says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 7:11 am

    With Van Der Merwe and Alberts behind him, Malherbe should not be going backwards.

  3. avatar Duiwel says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Pomms are being made to look good by an Argie side
    that didn’t show up

  4. avatar Craven says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    JP and Jacque looking out of sorts. See JP already walking around not jogging. Not impressed with their form this far.

  5. avatar DavidS says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    Wow but this Rolland is a terrible terrible referee

  6. avatar DavidS says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    Well well well I hope the contentions of how good little Lambie are now put to bed and a large wad of STFU will now be observed by those who are constantly criticising Morne Steyn.

  7. avatar Craven says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    On my earlier comment, JP and Jacque went a lot better in the second half.

  8. avatar Craven says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    @DavidS:

    Jeez David, surely Lambie wasn’t that bad?

  9. avatar Timeo says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    @Craven:

    He wasn’t that bad no, but the difference between him and Steyn was considerable.

  10. avatar Bekke says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    Steyn is just kak. Lambie is kakkerig.

  11. avatar Americano says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    How did Messerschmitt do Did he get on?
    What position?

  12. avatar Boertjie says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    @Americano:

    15. Conservative. Reliable.

  13. avatar biltongbek says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    Willie was much better than against New Zealand.

    His defence was much improved and he was a lot better under the high ball. He chased well too.

  14. avatar Americano says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    Thanks guys.

  15. avatar Americano says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    Site is so slow today. i think it may be being routed thru Zambia. Which begs the question as to Bunny’s whereabouts & also where in the heck has YOC/Brendan been?

    Anyway good to hear Willie behaved @15 but I don’t like him there from an offensive perspective. I think wing gives him more opportunities to slide/slot in.

  16. avatar Boertjie says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 11:54 pm

    @Americano:

    Brendon has bowed out.

  17. avatar DavidS says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 11:56 pm

    Bekke

    When Steyn was on the at 10 the Boks scored 17 points in 20 minutes conceding 6

    With Lambie they managed 9, conceding 9 in 60 minutes.

    Lambie missed a sitter and two sitter drop goals

    Nou as jy wil kakpraat gan kots drolle in ‘n toilet…

  18. avatar Boertjie says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    @Americano:

    23 Willie le Roux (on for Steyn, 18th minute)
    Clearly played according to subdued instructions and did so with good effect. Also made a try-saving tackle on Scott Williams.
    7/10

    15 Pat Lambie
    Faultless during his time at fullback, which saw him make an excellent early tackle on Jonathan Davies. At flyhalf, however, he bombed, with the Springboks losing their way after the injury to Steyn. His game-management was nonexistent, his decision-making average and his execution poor.
    5/10

    http://www.rugby365.com/article/57111-player-ratings-brutal-boks

  19. avatar Boertjie says:
    November 9th, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    Those dropgoals were not sitters.

  20. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    November 10th, 2013 at 12:08 am

    @Americano: Sorry guys I was building servers and was out of action only saw the game late.

  21. avatar DavidS says:
    November 10th, 2013 at 12:13 am

    Willie was good.

    Fourie Du Preez proved why he is still the best 9 on earth ever to play the game…

  22. avatar Bekke says:
    November 10th, 2013 at 1:53 am

    While Steyn was on he missed the usual tackles. Lambie prepared all week to play fullback, yet slot seamlessly into flyhalve, while not missing ONE tackle or ONE up and under. So go gnaw on your own drolle papsak turd.

  23. avatar Craven says:
    November 10th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    @DavidS:

    While I agree Morne looked good, you seem to have not seen Morne’s missed tackles? Same happened against the ABs at Ellis.

    Serious question, how come you can highlight certain player’s faults but manage to miss others?

  24. avatar DavidS says:
    November 10th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    @Bekke:

    Hou op kak op Ruggaworld en gaan gee eerder jou blow up doll ‘n dirty rodrigues

  25. avatar DavidS says:
    November 10th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    @Craven:

    I don’t.

  26. avatar Timeo says:
    November 10th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    @Craven:

    Another serious question.

    Why do everyone mention Steyn’s missed tackle, but say nothing about Jean de Villiers missing the same guy?

    Don’t note that it was neither’s guy to tackle in the first place?

    Consider that one can only miss a tackle, if you place yourself in a position to make it AND make the attempt AND if you are covering for a team-mate’s mishap you’re more likely to miss yourself.

    This is the case with Steyn’s most famous misses.
    In this game, in 17,5 minutes on the field he missed 1 and made 3. Of those 4 attempts, 3 were covering a team-mate’s miss or mishap.

  27. avatar Craven says:
    November 10th, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    I don’t agree Timeo. Morne went for another of his outstretched arms flapping at the Welsh player tackle style he is renowned for. He does not have the physical presence to want to grab someone at and arms length and effect a tackle, yet he persists with this. He did the same in the AB game. His tackle technique is quite poor.

    Having said that, I still believe Morne is our best flyhalf at the moment, by far.

  28. avatar Timeo says:
    November 10th, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    @Craven:

    What do you say then about JdV missing the guy also or JF who let him through in the first place?

    Right after the kick-off, Alberts missed a tackle on the Welsh #8 and Morne tackled him. What do you say about Alberts?

    A bit later he tackled the #8 again after Malherbe missed him.

    Overall, MS has very good defensive stats, his detractors just like to harp on about a few high profile misses that were in almost all cases after defensive lapses by team-mates.

    Here’s some SR career stats:
    MS: Avg. 4.54 tackles per match. Missed 17%
    Jean de Villiers: 3.67 tackles per match missed 27%
    Dan Carter: 4 tackles per match missed 20%

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/player/situational-stats?id=1301&name=morne-steyn&team=50007

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/player/situational-stats?id=1306&name=jean-de-villiers&team=50006

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/player/situational-stats?id=1046&name=daniel-carter&team=50001

    On what basis did MS earned a reputation for poor defense and those other two not?

    On what

  29. avatar DavidS says:
    November 10th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    I was going through rugby stats putting that together for some STFU…

    Seems you had the info at your finger tips.

    Some see what they want…

    Some others are just morons.

  30. avatar Timeo says:
    November 10th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    @Timeo:

    I see a mistake there.

    It should read “average tackles per half”. Which translate to about 9, 8 and 7 tackles per game for the 3 players.

  31. avatar Bekke says:
    November 11th, 2013 at 12:56 am

    No need to dream up stats – just watch the game without sucking on a papsak! Or dissecting your own k@k like dikdrl DavidS. Morne does not tackle – he is shit scared. And Fourie had to cover 15 running outside line toffie! Yes, Jean missed a tackle, but made up with plenty great ones after that – while Davud’s lovechild hangs around the back….

  32. avatar Timeo says:
    November 11th, 2013 at 3:20 am

    Hak-Hak, papsak, dikdrl, toffie & moffie.

    Your vocabulary is undeniably colorful, but severely limited.
    You should try to read a bit more.

    Here’s a good place to start:
    http://books.google.com/books/about/Green_eggs_and_ham.html?id=VTolm6HG2EgC

    Say after me:

    I will not eat them in a house, I will not eat them with a mouse, I will not eat them in a box, I will not eat them with a fox, I will not eat them here or there I will not eat them anywhere, I do not like green eggs and ham I do not like them Sam I Am”

  33. avatar Timeo says:
    November 11th, 2013 at 3:32 am

    @Timeo:

    I forgot the smiley. Here goes: :)

  34. avatar Craven says:
    November 11th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    @Timeo:

    Timeo, I was commenting on the ABs and Welsh tests. I have not seen the stats for the Welsh test yet, but against the ABs at Ellispark, Morne made 5 tackles and missed 5. It was obvious his technique in going in high with arms stretched out was not effective in that game.

    I bow to your Superugby stats, but that was not what I was referring to.

    As for Jean and Jaque, jip they missed tackles on Saturday, and your point is? I was mentioning Morne because David had a royal go at Lambie and his poor game.

  35. avatar Craven says:
    November 11th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    As an example of what I am talking about, view this photo. How many times have you seen Morne tackling like this?

    http://i1.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article6288796.ece/ALTERNATES/s1023/JS28616881-6288796.jpg

  36. avatar Boertjie says:
    November 11th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    @Craven:

    Fortunately he was also late for a high tackle.
    :pot:

  37. avatar Timeo says:
    November 11th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    @Craven:

    Many times.
    And as the SR statistics show, he makes more than most and misses less.

    The photo was of the case we talked about.
    Jacque Fourie made the defensive error and de Villiers missed tackled the same guy. When you are forced to tackle a player that was not yours to start with, you tend to be off balance and are more likely to miss.

    One should take that into account when judging a player’s defence.

  38. avatar Craven says:
    November 12th, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    @Timeo:

    Fair enough, point taken.

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