Getting inside Meyer’s head

July 1, 2014
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The June International is done and dusted with four wins for the Boks which included one close encounter with Wales in the second test a week ago.

A few combinations and players were tried and tested from the Springbok management team. Some of these selections we saw was due to injuries, players unavailable due to club commitments and some player decided he did not want to play for the Boks anymore.

Everything considerd, I believe Meyer has learnt a lot on which players he has to build his team on for the World Cup in England next year.

What we want in SA Rugby is too have quality players in every position and able and experienced back-up when we struggle with injuries in a position.

Meyer did this in the golden years with the Bulls and back then we had a Bulls squad that played for each other and won tournaments more than any other South African province or franchise.

With the Bulls you had Springbok first choice players that played from the bench for the union in a time that South African rugby was strong enough to win Tri-Nations and a World Cup.

If we look at our options that we have from the June Internationals you would be surprise to see how much of that same environment Meyer has brought to the Bok setup since he took over. We suddenly have a situation of who to pick in every position, rather than who will be able to fit in when a certain player gets injured or is unavailable.

Let’s look at the positions and I am only taking the guys who was part of the squad or training group:

Fullback we have Willie, Zain, Mvovo, Lambie and Bosshoff, who can all play there.

Wing we have Mvovo, Habana, JJ, De Allende, JP, Hendricks, Le Roux and Jean

Centre we have Jean, JJ, De Jongh, Serfontein, Jacue, De Allende and JP

Flyhalf we have Morne, Pollard, Bosshoff, Goosen, Pienaar and Lambie

Scrmhalf we have Fourie, Pienaar, Hougie

Loose forwards we have Vermeulen, Alberts, Schalk, Francois, Coetzee, Oupa, Kolisi and Brussouw

Locks we have Bakkies, Victor, Eben, Flip, Pieter Steph, Lood and Stephan Lewies

Hookers we have Bismarck, Struass and Brits with a few others waiting in the wings

Props we have Jannie, Beast, Gurthro, Connie, Malherbe, Marchel

All in all I believe we have a player’s corps are much better than many people believe in this country which should enable us to have a second player in each position who is world class. I am sure there are many more players that can be through into the mix as well.

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21 Comments

  1. avatar Aldo says:
    July 1st, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    Americano is going to catch a hissy fit, but it seems Strauss is coming back to the Bulls. Thank goodness, we need a hooker if they insist on keeping Bongi on the bench.

  2. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    July 1st, 2014 at 2:44 pm

    @Aldo: I heard Bongi is looking at going to go Sharks or Province at the end of the year

  3. avatar Aldo says:
    July 1st, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Bongi’s best bet is leaving PTA if he wants gametime, but with Stormers, Alistair apprantly wants him but Gert not so much, this is all rumours though. I think Sharks is out, as he wants gametime and wont get it at the Sharks.

  4. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    July 1st, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    @Aldo: BEE will play a huge role in CC and Supershit next year so he will get a change no matter were he goes….He is good enough in my eyes anyway

  5. avatar Morné says:
    July 1st, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    With Deon Fourie leaving WP Bongi will do well at Province. Beggars belief why the Bulls don’t invest in him.

  6. avatar Aldo says:
    July 1st, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Yeah that is a good question Morne. He is good enough to start, plus you make the politicians happy. Easy choice for me.

  7. avatar Morné says:
    July 1st, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    @Aldo:

    I rate this guy quite highly from what I have seen. He has an incredible work rate.

  8. avatar DavidS says:
    July 1st, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    Iit seems that Lions players have to break records to get a look in at the Boks as well so going to the Lions is no future for him…

  9. avatar Americano says:
    July 2nd, 2014 at 3:16 am

    Aldo:
    I’m fine with Strauss heading for your “Dark Hollow” after this season. He’s been on coast throughout & at this point….
    I’d take Mandisa Williams over him.

    Hopefully this is all part of the horse trading that occurs prior to any blockbuster deal –
    The deal I’m referring to of course is the movement of Handy Pollard to Cheetahs.

    The Pearl Harbor-esque raid on Cheetahs is indicative of the moneyed unions admitting that they have zero skills at player development and must resort to chicanery to keep the FunBunch down.

    Talent wise – Cheetahs is the “Breadbasket of SA Rugby”

  10. avatar Cheetah Glory says:
    July 2nd, 2014 at 10:55 am

    @Morné:

    Bongi’s sister just starred in an all conquering Bethlehem Voortrekker netball team.

    That Bongi was poached so early from here is testament to the great work done by Bulls scouts and kak work done by Cheetahs counterparts.

  11. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 2nd, 2014 at 11:27 am

    @Aldo:

    Why not… I don’t rate him as a test player… but then I don’t rate Cooper as a Super Rugby player and there’s no-one else there with him… not to mention surely and I mean SURELY JDP and BDP are going to better managed next year in a RWC year during the Super season…

  12. avatar Aldo says:
    July 2nd, 2014 at 11:42 am

    @bryce_in_oz:

    certain people that work with Bongi a lot, seems to think he has the stuff to be a Bok. Me personally, Im not sure yet, but then without the required gametime to prove himself, it’s difficult to say. He certainly has the work ethic to be a bok.

  13. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    July 2nd, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    @Aldo: I am with you Aldo, he has the making of a great player just need a union that will give him game to proof himself….

    He is much better than Scarra and all the other certain people rate behind BDP and Struass…..

    His work rate is brilliant…and from what i can hear his attitude even better.

  14. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 2nd, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    He’s too small… particularly when you consider how tall our props tend to be… neither Aus/RSA/NZ/Eng have had a hooker under 180cm’s to go with their props (other than Ralepelle)…

  15. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 2nd, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    Scarra, Bongi, Edgar.. all too small to make it to the next tier above Super and none have had a barn-storming season there anyway…

  16. avatar bryce_in_oz says:
    July 2nd, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    Has anyone head anything more about Chilli-boy and his positive test?

    Hope it all pans out alright for the guy…

  17. avatar Timeo says:
    July 3rd, 2014 at 12:56 am

    This idea that a player deserves “game-time” to prove himself is nonsense.
    You guys are of the mindset that unless you’ve seen what he can do, no one has.
    It’s nonsense.
    The coaches, measure and evaluate and work with the players daily. They have an intimate knowledge of their capabilities and have a big incentive to select the most capable.

    Occasionally, the coaches are mistaken,……..but only very occasionally.

  18. avatar Timeo says:
    July 3rd, 2014 at 3:28 am

    Here’s a clue.

    If a player does not get much game time, then it’s a good bet that the coach does not think him good enough.

    Without game-time to go on, what is your basis for rating the player in the first place?

  19. avatar Aldo says:
    July 3rd, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    Well I dont know Timeo, for me from agents talking him up and coaches wanting him that I know of through agents.

    Yes you dont need gametime to prove your worth, but sadly for Bongi, he is underrated by coaches at the Bulls.

  20. avatar Jacques(Bunny) says:
    July 3rd, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    @Aldo: Same coach who came from a Lions side who did win and inherited a championship team from HM

  21. avatar Aldo says:
    July 4th, 2014 at 11:22 am

    A bit of good news for the Bulls, but another blow to Americano, Handre Pollard has signed with the Bulls till 2017. Also Serfontein and Marcell van der Merwe resigned till 2017

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