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Preview and Match Centre

Great rugby again this weekend as the European season is now in full swing, Currie Cup in their second part of the season and the Rugby Championship going into week 4 of the competition.

It has been great to see the PRO14 on our tv sets and this week we have a change to see the first PRO14 teams playing in South Africa. Although the Cheetahs and Kings have not been great in the first two weeks we will see some improvement as they go along.

Here is our schedule for the weekend which will be broadcast with our preview.

Friday 15 September 2017

Tafel Lager Griquas v Cell C Sharks

Griquas have not had the best few weeks with the Sharks being on a great winning spree and on top of the log. Going to Kimberley is never easy and normally when everyone writes off the Griquas they come and show just how dangerous they are in Currie Cup.

They have a few talented players that have been performing great this season with their biggest problem maybe not being able to put great performances together more often than we expected.

The Sharks have been absolutely great this season even when they are not supposed to win games they get over the line. They have been playing and exciting brand of rugby and really look like contenders this year.

With only four points between the forth and last placed Griquas the playoff spots are still wide open and all to play for.

There have been some good performances from some players in the Griquas team this year but they need Whitehead and Botha to step up against the Sharks with a dominated performance from their forwards to challenge this Sharks side.

Teams:

Griquas – 15 AJ Coertzen (c), 14 Ederies Arendse, 13 Kyle Steyn, 12 Johnathan Francke, 11 Enver Brandt, 10 George Whitehead, 9 Renier Botha, 8 DeWet Kruger, 7 Sias Koen, 6 Wendal Wehr, 5 Pieter Janse van Vuren, 4 Jonathan Adendorf, 3 Stephan Kotze, 2 AJ le Roux, 1 Nicolaas Oosthuizen.
Subs: 16 Wilmar Arnoldi, 17 Liam Hendricks, 18 Sintu Manjezi, 19 Shaun McDonald, 20 Tiaan Dorfling, 21 André Swarts, 22 Eric Zana.

Sharks – 15 Garth April, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Jeremy Ward, 12 Marius Louw, 11 Sibusiso Nkosi, 10 Curwin Bosch, 9 Louis Schreuder, 8 Tera Mtembu, 7 Tyler Paul, 6 Keegan Daniel, 5 Ruan Botha (c), 4 Jean Droste, 3 Ross Geldenhuys, 2 Franco Marais, 1 Juan Schoeman.
Subs: 16 Akker van der Merwe, 17 Thomas du Toit, 18 Hyron Andrews, 19 Wian Vosloo, 20 Michael Claassens, 21 Tristan Blewett, 22 Inny Radebe.

Steval Pumas v DHL Western Province

The Pumas have been the silent giant this year and they have been absolutely brilliant playing at home and this weekend they get the high flying WP in Nelspruit.

WP have been playing a great brand of running rugby this year with the whole team showing of their skills and abilities score some of the bets tries in the competition.

This will be a cracker of a game and a real test for both when they face-off on Friday evening. The Pumas have stopped a few teams in their tracks this year and the will have their eyes on WP to take yet another win over a bigger union.

Only four points separate the two teams on the log and a win will give one team a log advantage over the other after this weekend.

Teams:

Pumas – 15 Justin van Staden, 14 Jerome Pretorius, 13 Gerrit Smith, 12Hennie Skorbinski (c), 11 Ruwellyn Isbell, 10 Kobus Marais, 9 Stefan Ungerer, 8 Willie Engelbrecht, 7 Lambert Groenewald, 6 Thembelani Bholi, 5 Hugo Kloppers, 4 Stefan Willemse, 3 Pieter Scholtz, 2 Mark Pretorius, 1 Khwezi Mona.
Subs: 16 Frank Herne, 17 De-Jay Terblanche, 18 Cameron Lindsay, 19 Brian Shabangu, 20 Hilton Lobberts, 21 Reynier van Rooyen, 22 Selom Gavor.

Western Province – 15 Craig Barry, 14 Seabelo Senatla, 13 EW Viljoen, 12 Huw Jones, 11 Ruhan Nel, 10 Damian Willemse, 9 Jano Vermaak, 8 Nizaam Carr, 7 Cobus Wiese, 6 Jaco Coetzee, 5 JD Schickerling, 4 Chris van Zyl (c), 3 Michael Kumbirai, 2 Ramone Samuels, 1 JC Janse van Rensburg.
Subs: 16 Chad Solomon, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Caylib Oosthuizen, 19 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 20 Dewaldt Duvenage, 21 Robert du Preez, 22 Werner Kok

Ulster Rugby v Scarlets

By the end of Friday at least one team will see its 100 percent record ended as the champions Scarlets travel to Belfast to take on Ulster at the Kingspan Stadium, in a game that kicks off at 7.35pm.

This time last year, it was Ulster and the Scarlets who were doing battle in the closing stages of the season for the final play-off spot, with the Welsh team eventually sneaking in (and leapfrogging compatriots the Ospreys).

From there they became the first team to win an away semi-final and claimed the title, while Ulster were left to think what might have been. This year both teams have made fine starts, with the Scarlets a perfect ten points from ten, and Ulster just behind with nine.

Les Kiss has made four changes to the side that beat Benetton Rugby with Chris Henry coming straight into the side as captain. Also included are Kyle McCall at loosehead prop, second row Alan O’Connor and centre Luke Marshall.

The Scarlets welcome back skipper Ken Owens for the first time since May after he was named in the starting line-up. He missed the run-in through injury before touring with the Lions, and he will be joined by a couple of fellow tourists, Leigh Halfpenny back in the side and Jonathan Davies named on the bench.

Teams: 

Ulster: L Ludik; A Trimble, L Marshall, S McCloskey, J Stockdale; C Lealiifano, J Cooney; K McCall, R Herring, W Herbst; K Treadwell, A O’Connor; C Henry, S Reidy, J Deysel.

Replacements: J Andrew, A Warwick, R Ah You, R Diack, M Rea, P Marshall, P Nelson, T Bowe.

Scarlets: L Halfpenny; J McNicholl, H Parkes, S Williams, S Evans; R Patchell, G Davies; R Evans, K Owens, S Lee, J Ball, T Beirne, A Shingler, W Boyde, J Barclay

Replacements: R Elias, W Jones, W Kruger, D Bulbring, J Macleod, J Evans, R Jones, J Davies
Read more at www.pro14rugby.org

Other PRO14 Matches Friday:

Newport v Connach 20:30

Edinburgh v Benetton 20:30

Northampton Saints v Bath Rugby

Northampton have made a number of changes in the pack, with Mikey Haywood, Paul Hill and David Ribbans all making their first Premiership starts of the season.

Dylan Hartley (hand) and Tom Wood (shoulder) are on the sidelines, although both are anticipated to be in training next week. Piers Francis (jaw) and Stephen Myler (leg) continue to make good progress in their respective rehabilitation programmes.

Sam Underhill will make his Bath debut against Northampton Saints in the Premiership clash at Franklin’s Gardens.

Underhill is one of four changes to the starting line-up that beat Saracens 31-21 last time out, with Ben Tapuai, Kahn Fotuali’i and Charlie Ewels all making their first starts of the season.

England international Underhill lines up on the openside flank, forming a formidable back-row with Taulupe Faletau and captain Matt Garvey. Ewels comes in to the second row alongside Elliott Stooke, whilst the front-row is unchanged.

Fotuali’i, who came on early in the first-half last week at the Rec, links up with Rhys Priestland in the half-backs, as Tapuai joins Jonathan Joseph in the midfield. Semesa Rokoduguni, who has scored three tries in two games, and Matt Banahan start out wide, with Anthony Watson providing the threat from full-back.

The teams:

Bath: 15 Anthony Watson, 14 Semesa Rokoduguni, 13 Jonathan Joseph, 12 Ben Tapuai, 11 Matt Banahan, 10 Rhys Priestland, 9 Kahn Fotuali’i, 8 Taulupe Faletau, 7 Sam Underhill, 6 Matt Garvey (c), 5 Elliott Stooke, 4 Charlie Ewels, 3 Anthony Perenise, 2 Tom Dunn, 1 Beno Obano
Replacements: 16 Jack Walker, 17 Nick Auterac, 18 Scott Andrews, 19 James Phillips, 20 Paul Grant, 21 Darren Allinson, 22 Freddie Burns, 23 Max Clark

Northampton: 15 Ahsee Tuala, 14 George North, 13 Rob Horne, 12 Luther Burrell, 11 Tom Collins, 10 Harry Mallinder, 9 Nic Groom, 8 Teimana Harrison, 7 Jamie Gibson, 6 Courtney Lawes (c), 5 David Ribbans, 4 Michael Paterson, 3 Paul Hill, 2 Mikey Haywood, 1 Alex Waller
Replacements: 16 Reece Marshall, 17 Campese Ma’afu, 18 Kieran Brookes, 19 Christian Day, 20 Lewis Ludlam, 21 Cobus Reinach, 22 James Grayson, 23 Ben Foden

Sale Sharks v London Irish

Sale have made four changes to the side that lost to Newcastle for Friday’s clash with London Irish.

Captain Will Addison moves to full-back, Josh Charnley makes his first appearance of the season on the left wing, Bryn Evans returns at lock to face his former club and Marc Jones makes his first start at hooker following his return from Bristol in the close season.

Speaking about the game boss Steve Diamond said, “There is no doubt that London Irish Director of Rugby Nick Kennedy and his coaching staff have done a fantastic job bringing the club back up to the Premiership. We are under no illusions that we face a big task as we look to get our season really up and rolling by registering our first win of the campaign. Last Friday’s 13-12 defeat at home to Newcastle was obviously very frustrating for us all.”

Diamond added: “We didn’t play well in certain areas against Newcastle and for us to be highly competitive in this league winning at home is very important. As a club, we pride ourselves on setting the highest of standards and the disappointment last Friday was that we didn’t meet them. Rest assured that everyone has been working extremely hard on and off the training ground this week and I’m hopeful that our efforts ensure we will get the turnaround in fortunes that we all want to see.”

Meanwhile, London Irish have made four changes for the Premiership clash.

Ben Franks captains the side, the double World Cup-winning All Black replacing Petrus Du Plessis at tighthead. Franks packs down alongside hooker Dave Porecki who comes in for David Paice, while in the backline Fijian international Aseli Tikoirotuma and Brendan McKibbin start at outside centre and scrum-half respectively.

The Exiles travel to Greater Manchester with five points to their name, having defeated Harlequins in the season opener at Twickenham.

Looking for his side to improve on last week’s performance at Exeter Chiefs, Exiles’ boss Nick Kennedy said: “We’ve addressed a few things from the Exeter game and as a team we’re looking forward to the challenge that awaits us at Sale.

“Sale are a physical side and we will need to match them in that department from the very first whistle.

“I’ve made some changes to the team to freshen things up after the first two rounds of the season and I’m looking forward to seeing how Ben Franks, Dave Porecki, Aseli Tikoirotuma and Brendan McKibbin all do from the start.”

The teams:

Sale: 15 Will Addison (c), 14 Denny Solomona, 13 Sam James, 12 Mark Jennings, 11 Josh Charnley, 10 AJ MacGinty, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Josh Strauss, 7 Ben Curry, 6 Jono Ross (cc), 5 Josh Beaumont, 4 Bryn Evans, 3 Alex Tarus, 2 Marc Jones, 1 Ross Harrison
Replacements: 16 Rob Webber, 17 James Flynn, 18 Halani Aulika, 19 Andre Ostrikov, 20 Tom Curry, 21 TJ Ioane, 22 Will Cliff, 23 Mike Haley

London Irish: 15 Tommy Bell, 14 Alex Lewington, 13 Aseli Tikoirotuma, 12 Luke McLean, 11 Topsy Ojo, 10 James Marshall, 9 Brendan McKibbin, 8 Ofisa Treviranus 7 Blair Cowan, 6 Mike Coman, 5 Sebastian De Chaves, 4 Franco van der Merwe, 3 Ben Franks (c), 2 Dave Porecki, 1 Danny Hobbs-Awoyemi
Replacements: 16 David Paice, 17 Harry Elrington, 18 Petrus Du Plessis, 19 Josh McNally, 20 Conor Gilsenan, 21 Scott Steele, 22 Greig Tonks 23 Napolioni Nalaga

Other Premier Matches Friday:

Worcester v Exeter

Saturday 16 September 

All Blacks v Springboks

Have always said it and will always say it, there is nothing bigger than a test between the All Blacks and the Springboks and even though we have been not great the last few years we the test always end up in a classic.

There is no question about it that the All Blacks have been and still is the best team in the world. With a Springboks team still building not many will expect a win and to be frank it is not what this weekend test is about.

It is rather about a test of improving, a Springbok team keep on improving from what was a horrible past two years in our rugby history.

To make life a bit more difficult for Coetzee men is the fact that have lost two more players to injuries in Coenie Oostuizen and Jaco Kriel. Both have been great so far in the Rugby Championship and will be missed.

The Boks are missing senior players such as captain Warren Whiteley, Duane Vermeulen, Frans Malherbe, Coenie Oosthuizen and Jaco Kriel.

Their replacements may have the ability to step in but they do not have that experience that is also lost with the injuries and that you do not want to loose against this All Black team where most things are against you.

The All Blacks have suffered their own losses. They will go into this match without seasoned front-rankers such as Owen Franks and Joe Moody.

Last week was not a good weekend for the Boks and will have to make a major step up this weekend.

Teams:

All Blacks – 15 Damian McKenzie, 14 Nehe Milner-Skudder, 13 Ryan Crotty, 12 Sonny Bill Williams, 11 Rieko Ioane, 10 Beauden Barrett, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Kieran Read (c), 7 Sam Cane, 6 Liam Squire, 5 Samuel Whitelock, 4 Brodie Retallick, 3 Nepo Laulala, 2 Dane Coles, 1 Kane Hames.
Subs: 16 Codie Taylor, 17 Wyatt Crockett, 18 Ofa Tu’ungafasi, 19 Scott Barrett, 20 Ardie Savea, 21 TJ Perenara, 22 Lima Sopoaga, 23 Anton Lienert-Brown.

Springboks – 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Raymond Rhule, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Courtnall Skosan, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Ross Cronjé, 8 Uzair Cassiem, 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Eben Etzebeth (c), 3 Ruan Dreyer, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Trevor Nyakane,19 Lood de Jager, 20 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 21 Francois Hougaard, 22 Handré Pollard, 23 Damian de Allende.

Australia v Argentina

Australia have not won a test yet in the Championship this year and they will be going out to get that first win against the Pumas on Saturday when they host them in round 4.

Argentina had their best test against the All Blacks last week but again fell short to play for 80 minutes and ran out of steam. Against the Aussies they can expect the same as they will be trying to run them from end to end and make sure of that first win.

With both teams win-less I am sure both teams will want to get it right this weekend.

The signs for both the Aussies and Pumas are their that they can step it up but they have felt short so many times just as you think they will start getting better.

Atleast we know one will get away with a win this weekend unless we see another draw.

Teams:

Australia: 15 Israel Folau, 14 Henry Speight, 13 Tevita Kuridrani, 12 Kurtley Beale, 11 Reece Hodge, 10 Bernard Foley (vc), 9 Will Genia (vc), 8 Sean McMahon, 7 Michael Hooper (c), 6 Ned Hanigan, 5 Adam Coleman, 4 Rob Simmons, 3 Sekope Kepu, 2 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 1 Scott Sio
Replacements: 16 Jordan Uelese, 17 Tom Robertson, 18 Allan Alaalatoa, 19 Izack Rodda, 20 Jack Dempsey, 21 Nick Phipps, 22 Samu Kerevi, 23 Marika Koroibete

Argentina: 15 Emiliano Boffelli, 14 Matias Moroni, 13 Matias Orlando, 12 Jeronimo de la Fuente, 11 Ramiro Moyano, 10 Nicolas Sanchez, 9 Martin Landajo, 8 Tomas Lezana, 7 Javier Ortega Desio, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Matias Alemanno, 4 Guido Petti, 3 Nahuel tatez Chaparro, 2 Agustin Creevy, 1 Lucas Noguera
Replacements: 16 Julian Montoya, 17 Santiago Garcia Botta, 18 Enrique Pieretto, 19 Marcos Kremer, 20 Juan Martin Leguizamon, 21 Tomas Cubelli, 22 Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias, 23 Manuel Montero

Southern Kings v Leinster Rugby

The Kings have been struggling to get into the PRO14 and they will have to step it up yet again in week three when they host Leinster in PE this weekend.

It is now very clear that PRO14 is at a much higher standard as most thought and that a step up to Currie Cup. The two SA sides will get better but that will come with time and this first year will be difficult but must be taken as a learning curve…

more to follow…

Golden Lions v Blue Bulls

Two teams who did not had it all their way this far in the Currie Cup but have started to put some wins together and with such a close Currie Cup log one can expect fireworks on Saturday.

This is the the last Currie Cup match the weekend and one that will give us a better idea if these two struggling teams have made the u-turn in the competition or not.

There have been a major change in Blue Bull rugby in the last few months and Micthell and his troops will want to show their worth against the Lions.

Teams:

Golden Lions – 15 Jaco van der Walt, 14 Sylvian Mahuza, 13 Rohan Janse van Rensburg, 12 Harold Vorster, 11 Anthony Volmink, 10 Ashlon Davids, 9 Marco Janse van Vuren, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Cyle Brink, 6 Kwagga Smith, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Andries Ferreira, 3 Jacobie Adriaanse, 2 Robbie Coetzee, 1 Jacques van Rooyen (c).
Subs: 16 Pieter Jansen, 17 Dylan Smith, 18 Johannes Jonker, 19 Robert Kruger, 20 Fabian Booysen, 21 Shaun Reynolds, 22 Aphiwe Dyantyi.

Blue Bulls – 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Duncan Matthews, 13 Burger Odendaal (c), 12 JT Jackson, 11 Rabs Maxwane, 10 Marnitz Boshoff, 9 Andre Warner, 8 Jano Venter, 7 Jannes Kirsten, 6 Nic De Jager, 5 Aston Fortuin, 4 Ruben van Heerden, 3 Matthys Basson, 2 Edgar Marutlulle, 1 Pierre Schoeman.
Subs: 16 Johan Grobbelaar, 17 Dayan van der Westhuizen, 18 Tim Agaba, 19 Marco van Staden, 20 Ivan van Zyl, 21 Manie Libbok, 22 Johnny Kotze.

Toyota Cheetahs v Zebre Rugby Club

As with the Kings the Cheetahs did not had a good time in the first two weeks of PRO14 rugby and will want to turn the tables at home when they host Zebre on Saturday.

more to follow…

Other PRO14 matches

Ospreys v Munster

Cardiff Blues v Glasgow Warriors

Other Matches:

Saturday:

Clermont Auvergne v Brive 20:40

Newcastle Falcons v Saracens 22:55

Sunday

Racing 92 v Oyonnax 12:25

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64 Comments

  1. DavidS

    DavidS

    September 15, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    Booyakashah PUMAS!!!!

    Confounding that wasted foreskin Stranskry by beating the WP.

    Puas (22) (3) – WP 12 (12)

    In spite of Marius Van Der Westhuizen’s best efforts.

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 16, 2017 at 4:29 am

    @DavidS:

    Loving their resurgence… did not see last night’s game but impressed with Skowinkski (sic) their bruising centre and captain.

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 16, 2017 at 9:29 am

    Coenie made 18 tackles last week missing none… he ranks third in tackles made with Kriel a whopping 39 tackles this series.

    You just cannot make up for that when you have a poor back three defensively.

    Boks could have the best bench in the world if they were not carrying the likes of Bongi/Trevor/wings/DDA even Lood. World class players playing both Currie Cup and legends like Bismarck and Frans Steyn still playing out of their skins that would make the bench at the very least of any top test side.

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 9:33 am

    Sitting in a pub watching Springbok v AB cannot get any better

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 9:36 am

    Sorry to say but AB by 20

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 9:58 am

    Cannot buy skill brilliant Barrett

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 10:03 am

    So many opertunities but we cannot finish

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 16, 2017 at 10:03 am

    Rhule has been done three times in a row on defence… what’s the point of winning the scrums. Too many passengers… poor dealing with the rush defence and no pressure on their own defence.

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 10:14 am

    Make that AB by 40

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 10:15 am

    @bryce_in_oz: so frustrating

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 10:18 am

    AB just moving up a gear

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 10:22 am

    So poor, No man, wtf is Jesse Kriel doing in this team

    😡

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 10:23 am

    Pur skills is still like a School team

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    Americano

    September 16, 2017 at 10:24 am

    O M F G

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    Americano

    September 16, 2017 at 10:26 am

    Combrink woulda had a shot @ 26 min mark BUT since he is not on team EJ had to go for touch

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  16. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 10:26 am

    Dreyer, Rhule, Cassiem, Fokken Jesse, Houkaard – almal fokken average drolle. And Jantjies? Sorry to say: If he looks like an epos; if he plays like an epos; and if he smells like an epos- then surely he IS an epos!

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  17. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 10:27 am

    Bring on that white privileged Afrikaner.

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 10:27 am

    If want to do rush defence you have to make your first tackle otherwise you just looks blerrie stupid

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  19. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 10:29 am

    And it seems the lineout codes are just too complicated for Marx? Maybe just tell him straight: Lob on 4 mate!

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 16, 2017 at 10:33 am

    7 miss tackles by Rhule after already heading both the Super Rugby and TRC worst tackles stats, commentators quite literally calling him out and laughing every time.

    Will he still be in the side in the following game… of course!

    The few world class players and decent players in this side simply cannot carry these guys against the world’s best.

    Nothing on that bench is going to improve the backline… and TH plus hooker.

    Marxs is going to burn out whilst the likes of AkkerVM, Coetzee and BDP wallow in their leagues…

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 16, 2017 at 10:38 am

    Jantjies cannot be left to be the only kicker in the starting side… Frans Steyn could have been on his outside all season with Combrink on the wing… that will Coetzee would have made a huge difference for starters…

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 10:42 am

    It is quite simple we arw just not good enough

    Simple

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 10:44 am

    @bryce_in_oz: 👌🏻

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  24. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 10:46 am

    And penaltyDreyer just do not learn!

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 16, 2017 at 10:46 am

    Can someone please explain to me why AC keeps rotating the OS and BS flankers on the scrum sides???

    He has Kriel who usually scrums down at 6 at 7 and Kolisi who normally scrums down at 7 at 6… today he’s switched JDPL who normally scrums down at 7 switch to 6 and Kolisi who he switched to 6 last week back to 7!!!

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  26. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 10:48 am

    Skosan Skosan – verstaan jy rugby?

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  27. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 10:51 am

    Skosan Skosan … wtf man

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 10:58 am

    Let se what the white privileged does

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  29. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 10:59 am

    Glad epos is off

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 11:07 am

    Did we really expect anything else

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  31. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 11:09 am

    Just how kak is Cassiem?

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  32. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 11:12 am

    @Jacques: Was expecting us to do few solid things – but just fokol

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 11:12 am

    Even Owens are mow trying to give Boks some points

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 11:14 am

    Vetgat Trovor shows his worth

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  35. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 11:15 am

    Worth his weight in kak

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 11:17 am

    And there sits the white privileged on his arsh

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  37. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 11:19 am

    And still wondering what happened!!!!!

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 16, 2017 at 11:20 am

    Take Kitschoff out of this bench front row and they would have been scrummed all the way down to Dunedin then lol!

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 11:21 am

    Well atleast we know we years behind the AB

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    Jacques

    September 16, 2017 at 11:22 am

    Between Rhule and Kriel one wonder who is the worst

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  41. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 11:26 am

    Throw Cassiem, Skosan, Coetzee, Dreyet in there as well

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    Aldo

    September 16, 2017 at 12:05 pm

    Wow that was embarrassing. I was expecting a loss but at least some sort of effort would’ve been much appreciated

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 16, 2017 at 12:32 pm

    @Bekke:

    Bit harsh… how many minutes did Dreyer even get this season due to the persistence of Trevor on the bench over him, Then he’s expected to leap-frog Trevor (because clearly he’s the ultimate quota) and start against the world’s best in a team getting slaughtered.

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 16, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    @Aldo:

    There were plenty in there giving it their all… but when you’re carrying fellow players not to mention the coach against the best in the world… somethings got to give…

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  45. Bekke

    Bekke

    September 16, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    Dreyer’s poor form was shown prnalty after penalty earlier in season. No surprise today.

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  46. DavidS

    DavidS

    September 16, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    @Bekke:

    Couldn’t get a start at the Lions until Dillon Smith got injured…
    But no he gets selected.

    The selectors apparently cannot read analytical stats.

    Looks like 2007 when Jake White selected the Bulls Ndungane brother when the Sharks one was having an excellent season. Toetie cannot tell which Lions prop is the good one so he just selected the one whose name he’s heard Joel Stransky say the most on Supersport

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  47. DavidS

    DavidS

    September 17, 2017 at 1:02 am

    I still reserve judgement on Jantjes.

    You fuckers forget that in July when the Hurricanes took a 20 point lead on the Lions, it was Jantjes who marshalled his men and eventually the Lions ended up running away with the game. Also you forget that a week later Marius Van Der Westhuizen fucked up the game with his hysterical llittle red card and with Jantjes in charge the Lions were 8 points adrift at the end of the game. So against the two best NZ sides which make up the bulk of NZ national side Jantjes has excelled.

    In fact after the Canes game there was a meme doing he rounds with Jantjes saying

    Beauden Barret… never heard of her

    I said the same last year. You do not have a player go from playing the role to smash the second best NZ side and then playing for 50 points with 14 men against the best side in NZ lose by 8. Then suddenly he puts on a green jersey and he is kak.

    THAT is NOT the player.

    Particularly in the case of a flyhalf his ability to play his game is dictated by those around him and by the coach’s game plan. In this game today for instance Jantjes was first receiver maybe one out of five passes.

    He had that twat Hougaard as his scrumhalf. So whenever he got the ball he was under pressure and you have the forwards being dominated like gimps in an S&M porno.

    Any fyhalf who can play well under those circumstances …. no… no flyhalf can play well with Hougaard and dominated forwards especially when you got a useless coaching staff prescribing what he must do when he knows whatever he does will be blamed on him by unknowledgeable morons and when he is being asked to play a game he probably knows is a poor game plan.

    I give up.

    We have idiots for coaches

    And dumber people as “rugby commentators”

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    Timeo

    September 17, 2017 at 3:17 am

    @DavidS:

    You are correct that it’s not the player. It’s the game-plan. Essentially the Lions game-plan, played by the Boks this year, that is designed to beat most teams, but pretty much guaranteed to lose against good Kiwi sides.
    Just as the Lions have demonstrated over a few seasons.

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    JT

    September 17, 2017 at 8:52 am

    Watching the game this morning and 28min in Bokke looking good but 17-0 down… afraid to see how it unraveled popcorm

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    JT

    September 17, 2017 at 9:06 am

    33min it and it starts going pear shaped… our defense is passive in the run up giving ABs way to much ground.
    24-0 down and Bokke rattled

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    JT

    September 17, 2017 at 9:08 am

    Oh f@k here we go, 4th try Bokke look like deer in the headlights dash

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    JT

    September 17, 2017 at 9:21 am

    WTF happened to our LO?
    What did Brendan Venter have to say about our defense?

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    JT

    September 17, 2017 at 9:40 am

    To put this game in perspective the ABs were bloody awesome!

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    JT

    September 17, 2017 at 9:55 am

    The Bokke just not good enough. The effort is there but just not good enough. Against Italy last year the effort was also missing

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    JT

    September 17, 2017 at 10:07 am

    Bokke never looked like scoring. Looked like they are in the game for long periods but going nowhere. No real ideas on how to break the AB defense

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    JT

    September 17, 2017 at 11:00 am

    Biggest embarrassment for SARU this weekend must be the growd size at the Kings game. WTF happened there?

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    Deon

    September 17, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    Jantjes is starting to show the exact reason why he was so long out of major contention. He disappears when the going gets tough. 2 weeks in a row now. Pity as I really think he has talent. Mentally however he can not be consistent.

    Rhule and Coetzee are completely out of their depth. Good CC players and that is where it stops.

    Serfontein needs to be at 13. Dont really know who ahould be at 12 that is currently playing in South africa.

    Need Vermeulen back at 8 and the other loosies to concentrate on their positions. They seem confused with their part in the team.

    Marx had a shocker, but I would keep him going. He is a quality player.

    Springboks need a 9 that can clear the ball without doing the 2 step. Current 9’s are allowing the rush defense to be very effective and that is why the backline is struggling.

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    Americano

    September 18, 2017 at 5:17 am

    Applaud Deon’s ( or is it Donner hmmmmmm) stealthy endorsement of The Messerschmitt – Willie LeRoux coming back to the SA 15 spot amidst cheers & flowers/sweets being thrown ahead of his comeback parade.

    One point that could help the logic of the unraveling is that it is VERY difficult for a team to not get despondent & lack answers to unlocking the opposing defense when you can’t rely on your own line outs. It’s pretty much game over at that point. No idea how they could have been that off? Was Marx solely to blame?

    In other news 57-0 vs NZ should at least make Etzbeth consider deferring accepting captaincy until he figures out in the words of TRUMP ” what the hell is going on!?”

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 18, 2017 at 7:40 am

    Tough to blame Jantjies when he’s playing to a pathetic game-plan that is nothing like the Lions.

    They don’t have a balanced loose-forward trio, a tight 5 that works in unison, the speed to the breakdown and en-masse, vigorous counter-rucking, a creative centre like Vorster, the penetration of Combrink with the contributing boot to match and the the angled power-runs of RJVR to name just a few deficiencies the Bok’s lack that the Lions don’t.

    You want to play like the Lions then employ the expertise of Swys De Bruin and Johan Ackerman!

    It’s not rocket science the AB’s were going to bring their huge rush defence to the game. It’s not rocket science that you don’t have a lack-lustre drift defence that gives the AB’s space to unleash their prowess on attack.

    Did AC and co not even bother to watch the British Lions tour? Do they even have a technical analyst?

    And then there is the small matter of selection… Blind Freddy has been calling for a balanced, powerful back three with some aid for Janjties’ poor pop gun boot! A clear case of a handful of world class players carrying passengers (including the coach) against the best in the world whilst the rest of the world class players are wallowing in the Currie Cup or overseas.

    Guys like BDP, Frans Steyn, JPP, Combrink, Willie Le Roux to name but a few.

    I stopped counting after 6 consecutive tackes by Rhule and four consecutive scrum penalties against Trevor. Rhules lack of boot was blatantly obvious when with all the time in the world and inside his 22, he had to fling the ball all the way back to an almost unsuspecting Coetzee. But singling them out over many more is a bit moot.

    Will anything change? Of course not… and it’s going to get worse.

    Put’s the earlier wins against two teams not even ranked higher than 7th into perspective.

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 18, 2017 at 7:48 am

    @bryce_in_oz:

    Can add Duane Vermeulen at 8 to that list on top of giving AC a golden handshake just as soon as Rassie and Nienaber arrive (if they do).

    The All Blacks don’t simply discard the likes of Sonny Bill, Dane Coles, Luke Romano as soon as they’re passed their thirties. They play to win with their best available whilst building depth.

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    Jacques

    September 18, 2017 at 9:26 am

    There was enough good things in that first half but we fell short

    Defence was bad

    It will all about how they can pick themselves up

    They were just not good enough to stand up after those two tries and panic

    Inexperienced

    We have also to many passengers

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    Americano

    September 18, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    Ugggh. I’m loathe to put this in words but my conscience got the best of me. Thankfully this is the Match Page so it will soon be forgotten once new articles of the aftermath are shown.
    What to look for next:
    REALLY GOOD up & coming SA players ( or current like Shark Twins, PSDT, Marx ) will plot to achieve Springbok status for 8-12 months JUST for resume/market value in Europe then split to foreign riches as sticking around too long on a side that withers under foreign competition ( that they used to dominate) sullied their personal branding.
    “Just a touch” is enough for that glittery contract to play in the muck of Europe.
    – Americano reporting from the future ( where contracts ain’t in Euro or Pounds…….they’re in BITCOIN yo !!! )

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    Americano

    September 18, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    I will be keeping a tally of these “Just a Touch” boys. I believe Kitchoff the red haired prop guy counts but he’s an asterisk because he still plays for SA – true Just a Touch guys will defer SA call ups wanting to focus on club duties.
    Thanks AC…….
    FOR NOTHING

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    bryce_in_oz

    September 19, 2017 at 2:48 am

    @Americano:

    You can add Ruan Botha too start that list… and there are going to be at least a Baker’s dozen of loose-forwards and after Combrink’s omission I doubt we’ll ever see a white wing play in RSA again at a any level.

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