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Rassie cut squad by 6 for Argentina tour

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Erasmus named his 28-man squad to travel to Argentina for the second test in this years Rugby Championship.

They beat Argentina in Durban over the weekend 34-21 and earn a bonus point in the test as well.

Erasmus are leaving a few players at home for this away test match in Jean-Luc Du Preez, Sikhumbuzo Notshe, Marvin Orie, Ross Cronje, Jesse Kriel and Lwazi Mvovo.

Cyle Brink has left the squad before the first test and has gone for an operation on his knee.

The squad are due to fly to Argentina on Monday and the match will be at 21:10 on Saturday evening.

Traveling Squad

Forwards (16)

Thomas du Toit (prop, Sharks), Pieter-Steph du Toit (lock/loose forward, Stormers), Eben Etzebeth (lock, Stormers), Steven Kitshoff (prop, Stormers), Siya Kolisi (captain – loose forward, Stormers), Francois Louw (loose forward, Bath, England), Wilco Louw (prop, Stormers), Frans Malherbe (prop, Stormers), Malcolm Marx (hooker, Lions), Bongi Mbonambi (hooker, Stormers), Franco Mostert (lock, Gloucester, England), Tendai Mtawarira (prop, Sharks), RG Snyman (lock, Bulls/Honda Heat ), Akker van der Merwe (hooker, Sharks), Marco van Staden (loose forward, Bulls), Warren Whiteley (No 8, Lions)

Backs (12)

Lukhanyo Am (centre,  Sharks), Faf de Klerk (scrumhalf, Sale Sharks, England), Aphiwe Dyantyi (wing, Lions), André Esterhuizen (centre, Sharks/Sanix Blues, Japan), Elton Jantjies (flyhalf, Lions), Willie le Roux (fullback, Wasps, England), Makazole Mapimpi (wing, Sharks), Lionel Mapoe (centre, Lions), Embrose Papier (scrumhalf, Bulls), Handré Pollard (flyhalf, Bulls), Ivan van Zyl (scrumhalf, Bulls), Damian Willemse (flyhalf, Stormers)

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  1. Small steps!! Great to see Kriel and Du Preez gone for now. Hope Stef on flank; Mosterd on lock; De Ellende on centre. Rassie will have to gamble with Damien at fullback and Papier or Van Zyl on 9.

  2. Stupid question, but if not for window dressing, what was Orie doing in the match day 23? How do you mess up so bad, that you drop from matchday 23 without even getting a minute play, to not even being in the touring squad?

  3. @Bekke: yeah you have to. To be told you are good enough to be a bok one week, and then get dropped the next week without playing a minute.

  4. @cab: eish, like Spies he has all the talent, but just too lazy and selfish to make a positive impact for me Cab. I am a bit unsure about De Ellende – he has destroyed everybody in SA that he played again, but his lack of passing is difficult to fix it seems. Rassie seems to have a plan, but he needs to get some consistency outside of the tight 5 and wings.

  5. @Bekke:

    Lazy? Ranks at the top of the list for rucks hit and tackles made in Super Rugby… is ‘the’ top ranked ‘off-loader’ in Super Rugby. Had an almost unblemished tackle record in a test side that leaked tries under AC making a marked difference instantly off the bench under him too. But hey I’m not trying to convince anyone. The current loose-forward trio is totally out of whack with no blind-sider and an open-sider that is woefully slow in his latter years not to mention an 8 that suffers for it at this level.

    As for Spies… whilst his multiple injuries stifled his career somewhat he was still a vital cog of the most successful SR team ever. Not to mention a major factor in Montpellier’s resurgence playing almost 80mins for every game. I doubt anyone… even you (well I won’t hold my breath)… can discount he was 1/3rd of arguably the most successful loose-forward trio in Boks history in 2009, whooping the AB’s and taking the BIL series being the only loose-forward to play the full 80mins every time. Brussouw/Juan Smith/Spies with either Danie or Schalk off the bench. Now that is the ‘balance’ the All Blacks have and the Boks do not in their back row.

  6. How the wheel has turned …. Bok forward squad almost 50% Stormers players and only one backline player in Willemse. A change from the “old days”

  7. Bryce – with all that power, you do want him to get stuck in more. Maybe just youth or Bekke has a point.

    Out wide – yip, a lot of it in the right 5 too. crazy that they underperforming at super level.

  8. @cab:

    Yes indeed… he has all the pace required for a blind-sider and then some, so as I have been saying for quite some time that he needs to back himself more as a ball-carrier in the loose (a-la-Juan Smith or Shields or Alberts et al), not from just from standing starts where he still makes it over the gain-line almost every time. He is prone to, too much passing at times (hence his off-load figures are that high). The same can be said of his brother, Cobus Wiese and Cyle Brink (to a lesser extent).

  9. @cab: That’s his point Cab. Looking at JLDP’s SuperRugby stats, he been getting into the thick of things the whole year. Hopefully he gets a shot, but doubt it with Kolisi being captain. Kolisi is a brilliant hybrid loose, but not a specialist in any of the positions, which makes balancing the trio difficult as he is captain and must start. I’d pick Kolisi on the bench anytime as he is so versatile, so he needs to start specialising in a position if he is going to be our captain

  10. Aldo – but why Louw over Kolisi?

    Kolisi outstanding in 2017. Apart from being a v good player, that guy is v good for SA rugby in many ways. Not least when he stands up for his teammates on the field.

    Only thing with Siya to watch for is that his work-rate tends to go down in the last quarter which is strange cos he’s v well conditioned. He was walking at one stage. Captain got to play full 80.

    Not hugely convinced by Esterhuizen but his cleanout for the 1st try was outstanding work. I put this down to Rassie who finally is an SA coach who understands the need for quick ball.

    Defence looking v good under nienaber , will only get better.

  11. @cab: because Louw is a specialist 6 that also brings some bulk to a very light loose trio. I would’ve played van Staden personally, as he is in the group, but Rassie had to bring some experience and bulk.

    The problem with Kolisi will always be that he is not the best 6 nor the best 7. He does bring you the option to play both though. Given that he is captain, probably best to play him at 6, as he just doesn’t cut it for me as a blindside. Maybe if he specializes in one position only, he would become one, but he has always been versatile and shunted between positions. I rate Kolisi, it’s just that starting him makes balancing your trio very difficult.

  12. @cab:

    Circles and circles…

    Nobody said Louw ‘over’ Kolisi… we said before the team was even selected that Louw ‘would’ be there over Van Staden to add weight to the pack as a bigger open-sider (who quite frankly has lost what pace he had particularly in SH conditions) to incorporate Kolisi.

    Nobody said Kolisi is not a good player. We said he is neither and OS nor a BS with a penchant for hanging around on the wings too much, which might be tolerable against a weaker side and on the attack, but means he goes missing on the flip-side. This has been evident with the Stormer’s woeful 2018 SR season with their T5 having to carry 3 loose-forwards in Notshe, Kolisi and Carr who all play the same game. He is better suited to being a bench impact player in the same way the AB’s use Ardie Savea.

    Nobody was outstanding in 2017 nor 2016… there may have been tries scored amongst the endless drubbings… but from a loose-forward perspective the only real shining light was the tandem breakdown wizardry by Jaco Kriel and Marx.

    But I digress… circles and circles…

  13. Nah, the same criticisms levelled at Kolisi could be labelled at whitely or flo, neither are blinsiders are specialist fetcher opensiders, but they are excellent linking and suppprt players who carry v well.
    Marx and maybe van staden are the only players that bring that fetching ability on the deck.

  14. Back-row in 1st test looked a bit light/unbalanced. Whiteley and Kolisi IMO does not work.
    If Someone like Vermeulen is at 8 or even Akkerman then Kolisi can play his type of game from 7 and a proper OS at 6. With Whiteley at 8 i believe you need a JLDP or PSDT playing at 7.
    The Touring squad does not have many options so expect to See Whiteley and Kolisi in the starting team and if that happens to make it work better I would select Kolisi at 6 and play PTSD at 7. With V Staaden and Louw on the bench to attack the breakdown in the 2nd half…
    Eben and Mostert starting at Lock with RG on the bench. Only 2 Backs on the bench, a 9 and Damien to cover 10/15… or get another back on the bench instead of Louw or v Staaden.
    Not many options for the back-row which imo is risky.

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